Team for DP Wifi thing

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Porygon-Z @ Leftovers
Trait: Adaptive
EVs: 28 HP / 228 Spd / 252 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Thunderbolt
- Nasty Plot
- Tri Attack
- Ice Beam

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Gliscor (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sand Veil
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Knock Off
- Ice Fang
- Roost

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Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 200 HP / 252 Def / 56 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Aromatherapy
- Seismic Toss
- Softboiled
- Ice Beam

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Slowbro @ Leftovers
Trait: Oblivious
EVs: 252 HP / 212 Def / 44 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Grass Knot
- Ice Beam
- Slack Off

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Heracross (M) @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Guts
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Close Combat
- Megahorn
- Stone Edge
- Pursuit

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Rhyperior (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Solid Rock
EVs: 156 HP / 100 Atk / 252 Def
Impish (+Def, -SAtk)
- Eathquake
- Stealth Rock
- Roar
- Stone Edge

I'll change everything that people tell me. *Experiment*
 
Why did you make another account? See [thread=12866]this thread[/thread] if you wanted a name change.

Froslass lacks the defenses to get spikes off in standard play. It's not Skarmory, it can't take a hit and return with spikes. You'll never be able to switch it in, and it's not so scary that it would cause too many switches of its own.
 
Surgo said:
Why did you make another account? See [thread=12866]this thread[/thread] if you wanted a name change.

Froslass lacks the defenses to get spikes off in standard play. It's not Skarmory, it can't take a hit and return with spikes. You'll never be able to switch it in, and it's not so scary that it would cause too many switches of its own.
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Sorry, never saw that.

So then replace Spikes with something, or get rid of Froslass for Skarmory?
 
There is never, ever a use for Earthquake on Heracross when Rocks and Steels get destroyed by CC, Fire types by Stone Edge and Poison types generally Levitate or are Flying types (Gengar, Weezing, Crobat) you wouldn't hit with EQ anyway. This leaves Electrics: you'd only get Raikou about half the time (92-109%) with EQ and you would OHKO Jolteon and the expected-to-be Lonely (+Atk, -Def) Electivire with CC anyway.

The point, though, even more than in Advance, is that if you're sending in a Heracross in on an Electric if something of yours dies or even if you predict a Raikou CM or a Jolteon HP Grass or whatever, an observant opponent will, in DP, be wary of the "surprise" that Choice Scarf brings, and switch out, even if they tagged you with TB. This is the beauty of Pursuit over EQ, though: you'll still get them for a good bit of damage, and be able to hit whatever they sent in with whatever attack you want due to the nature of a CBed/CSed Pursuit on switching pokemon.

Take Sub off of Rhyperior and put on Stone Edge, you don't wanna to be costing your wall 25% of its HP with no Wish support. Stone Edge would also stop non-Waterfall variants of Gyarados, a DD/EQ/IF/Taunt which is actually expected to be the standard.

We'll see if anybody uses it, but half of your namesake will probably 6-0 this team as well, which may be a reason to give your Rhyperior even more HP or some SpD. You're probably going to want to replace Frosslass with a Feather Rest Gliscor, who would pretty much stop Boah since it can Recover instantly, but you would stoll have to hope your Choice Scarf gamble will work to get Gyarados. Ice Fang is probably needed on Gliscor to help with Garchomp, who would otherwise hit and run on you all day.
 
OK, changes made:

Replaced Recover with Thunderbolt on Porygon-Z.
Replaced Froslass with Gliscor.
Replaced Earthquake with Pursuit on Heracross.
Changed Substitute for Stone Edge on Rhyperior.
Gave Rhyperior some more HP.

Keep the comments coming!
 
Gliscor walls it good and damages badly with Earthquake. Rhyperior walls it and damages badly with Earthquake. Aerodactyl doesnt wall it but OHKOs with Earthquake. D;
 
Heracross will take out Swampert, Blissey can stall it out and it won't enjoy a Tri Attack from PorygonZ. You've got decent Swampert coverage, I wouldn't worry about it.
 
How will it take out Swampert? I don't see how it could switch in safely except against Earthquake, plus with Swamperts good Defense and HP, it likely wont OHKO. I still think that:

Slowbro @ Leftovers
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Grass Knot
- Ice Beam
- Slack Off

could help me out. Although I will await further comments before I make a final decision.
 
Heracross resists Earthquake and shrugs off Swampert's Ice Beams and Surfs. Megahorn is a 2HKO, which is more than enough.
 
Hmm, I didn't run calculations on Ice Beam and Surf (although they are more likely to be Avalanche and Hydro Pump, in my opinion), but I made an assumption. Megahorn isn't something I really want to depend on for that, due to 85% accuracy. What are the calculations on Close Combat? After the Defense drop from one, how much damage will it do?
 
Against your Heracross, a 270 Attack Swampert (after defense drops from Close Combat) will do...

39 - 46% with Earthquake
62 - 73% with Avalance (if attacked)

You'd be better off with Choice Band on Heracross really, Megahorn will finish Swampert more easily and you don't have to worry about defense drops. You can still afford one miss from Megahorn too.
 
I prefer Choice Skarf, seeing how Heracross already has great attack, and it can really use the extra speed to get rid of... well... things that are killed by it but normally outspeed it.
 
Gliscor walls it good and damages badly with Earthquake. Rhyperior walls it and damages badly with Earthquake. Aerodactyl doesnt wall it but OHKOs with Earthquake. D;
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CBMeteor Mash easily 2HKOs Gliscor and Gliscor doesn't OHKO back with Quake. Meta can practically switch in on Bliss
 
Gliscor could always Knock Off the Choice Band, and then use Roost to shrug off the damage. Anyway, what do you suggest changing if my plan fails horribly? :P
 
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Not sure on the Metagross weak change.

But other than that, Choice Band > Scarf on Cross IMO.
 
It has high enough attack to use Choice Skarf, plus it beats alot of things it normally wouldn't without the extra speed.

Edit: Replaced Azelf with Slowbro due to need of Bulky water.
 
CB makes a huge difference, though. It is capable of 2HKOing Skarmory whereas it would be impossible without it or a Guts boost.

It's not just that. The boost in power is worth over the speed boost IMO
 
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