Team Latino_Ownage

Chileno4Live

Chileno4Live

~Yo!~

It's been a while since i made a RMT. And i need your help to improve this team. The team is actually hit hard and run back to my walls or Metagross. My problem is the lead, i'd like to help with that. Maybe some other minor nitpicks. The team is based for WiFi, so hidden Powers might be difficult to obtain on a certain pokemon. Without boring you with these words, let's hear it for team:

Latino_Ownage


The Team:
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(Credits to Serebii for the Sprites)

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Machamp @ Lum Berry
Ability: No guard
EVs: 252 Hp/160 Atk/96 SDef
Nature: Adamant
- Substitute
- Stone Edge
- Dynamic Punch
- Encore
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This isn't the best lead, but it is an anti-lead, at least. This is how i use it. If the opponent is a status inducer, i substitute, since Lum Berry negates the Status, then i attack. If it's a Gyarados/Salamence, Stone Edge and if it's a tricker, i switch to Espeon, which can Trick the item away itself. Simple, but not always effective. The problem with this guy is that it kinda lacks power, even with the attack evs. He also doesn't have a real role in the team. I'd like to replace him, but if he's the best option then i don't switch. I've added Encore to trap those Scizors and Salamences who tries to set up. And for other reasons you should know! Thnx Legacy Raider for your suggestion ^_^

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Alakazam @ Choice Specs
Ability: Synchronize
EVs: 252 SAtk/252 Speed
Nature: Modest
- Trick
- Signal Beam
- Psychic
- Hidden Power Fire
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I replaced Espeon for Alakazam for reasons i already mentioned. What Espeon did, can Alakazam do much better. I opted for the Specs 1, since it threatens alot. I did a similar set on the Analysis, only i didn't used Focus Blast because i don't like it's shaky accuracy, and TTar is 2HKO'd by Signal Beam anyway. Instead, i used Hidden Power Fire, which covers the Steel Types for me. Psychic is just amazing with STAB and Specs and it'll hurt alot of sweepers. If i see a Blissey, Trick get's the job done for sure :D I got lucky that i got this Alakazam from my friend :D

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Honchkrow @ Choice Band
Ability: Insomnia
EVs: 252 Atk/252 Speed
Nature: Adamant
- Sucker Punch
- Superpower
- Drill Peck
- Pursuit
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Honchkrow does own at Sucker Punching, it's awesome with the platinum changes. Suckerpunch is an awesome move, which allows me to go first, if the opponent uses a Damage giving move. With STAB this moves owns and it's my main way of attacking. You also got this annoying Heatrans, thats why Superpower is there. Superpower should OHKO a Heatran (didn't do Calculations.) Drill Peck is for another STAB move, though it doesn't cover that much. Pursuit is for fleeing enemies which won't stay in on Honchkrow. Pursuit is awesome with Sucker Punch. You should know why.

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Metagross @ Life Orb/Choice Band
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 252 Atk/252 Hp
Nature: Adamant
- Thunderpunch
- Meteor Mash
- Earthquake
- Ice Punch
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Metagross fits good with the rest of the team, covering some weaknesses and hit hard back with his moves. Thunderpunch hits Gyarados amazingly hard, and should OHKO him most of the time. It is also good for Skarmory. Meteor Mash is for a good STAB move and if i am lucky, i get an ATK boost, which makes Metagross even more terrifying. Earthquake is for Steel Types other than Bronzong and Skarmory. Ice Punch is good for Gliscors and Salamences, but Bullet Punch can be handy sometimes VS faster pokemon like Gengar and Weavile. I am doubting between Life Orb and Choice Band. Life Orb allows me to switch between moves, and i don't have to much Choice Users in this team, despite Espeon having Trick. My only switch in to a trapped Salamence, which'll die to Ice Punch. I am still considering the Agiligross Legacy Raider suggested, but for now, this will be my superior option since Alakazam isn't going to revenge kill Salamence.

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Gliscor @ Leftovers
Ability: Sand Veil
EVs: 252 Hp/252 Def
Nature: Impish
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge/Aerial Ace
- Stealth Rock
- Roost
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This guy is 1 of the best walls in my opinion, and it is my best bred. Earthquake for STAB, and Stone Edge for Flying Types. Always works with Earthquake. Stealth Rock for some support, and ruins Focus Sashers. Roost is the best way for Gliscor to heal himself, and temporarily removes his Flying type, which can get handy at some times but can get ugly at other times aswell. Just a casual Gliscor. I might be using Aerial Ace over Stone Edge, i need help with that aswell.

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Lanturn @ Leftovers
Ability: Volt Absorb
EVs: 76 Hp/192 SAtk/240 SDef
Nature: Calm
- Thunder Wave
- Thunderbolt
- Ice Beam
- Surf
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The only solution to be my Special Wall, since it absorbs Electric Moves. Lanturn is hardly seen in OU, but it does a good job in OU really. It counters many pokes like Zapdos without HP grass and it kinda does Counter Jolteon and Vaporeon. Thunder Wave is to cripple Sweepers like Salamence which comes in to Lanturn easily. Thunderbolt and surf for STAV, and Ice Beam to create the BoltBeam Coverage and aswell to hit Salamence hard, if it's Paralyzed. I didn't need the 36 Speed evs, since i don't have to outspeed Skarmory.

I'm open for most suggestions, i hope you guys consider the fact this isn't a shoddy team so it is difficult to get some Hidden Powers :)
 
Metagross @ Choice Band
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 252 hp / 252 atk / 6 def
Nature: Adamant
- Thunderpunch
- Meteor Mash
- Earthquake
- Bullet punch

bullet punch for priority and STAB + choice band = base power of 75 (40x1.5x1.5)

Machamp @ Lum Berry
Ability: No guard
EVs: 252 Hp/160 Atk/96 Def
Nature: Adamant
- Substitute
- Stone Edge
- Dynamic Punch
- Bullet punch

priority move for machamp to kill sashers with

also you should consider charge beam on lanturn to boost surf and ice beam
 
MAchamp needs RestTalk set w/ Dynamicpunch, Stone edge and No Guard. SAme EVs but switch around the Atk and HP values. Adamant.

Timid with specs on Espeon. THat way if you trick there is a chance the foe wont make use of it, but any sweep can make use of scarf.

I hardly see what Krow is doing for this team, go for a more solid OU Cb sweep. Weavile does same job but with STAB Ice attacks, and Ice Shard in particular for priority.

Meta needs bullet punch as last move, and Life orb over CB, you have too many Choice stuff.

Gliscor might consider Aerial ace over Stone Edge. It still hits flyers, except skarm, but that will be endless stall anyway. It is better if you fear hera, and it also fixes the accuracy problem. Power is similar due to STAB.

Lanturn is strange for a standard team, but if you prefer him then fine. I think you should use Snorlax instead though. If you are scared of dragons then take Ice punch, and he has good resistances due to thick fat. He is an ideal counterto Scarf Tran (with EQ) which runs through your team.

I hope this helps.
 
Thnx for replying both of you :)

@Komodo: Machamp with Bullet Punch makes sense, though Payback OHKO's Gengar and Azelf without Sash. I still prefer Machamp being replaced. Metagross with the third Choice item could be kinda to much, 3 choice users but then again Espeon has got Trick. Not sure what to do. I'll way till more people replies.

@Twinkytoes: I think machamp's set is good this way, it's an anti-lead version afterall. I used the standard smogon analysis for Machamp. But still i prefer he should go for a better lead. Espeon with Scarf is there to outspeed Salamence after 1 Dance and damage it with Psychic. If i had Hidden Power Ice that would've been alot easier though. But like i said, i could change it to Alakazam, which does that job better what Espeon is doing now. Honchkrow is just there for the main core and a not to competitive pokemon. It has for example alot more ATK than Weavile. your right about Metagross to use Life Orb, but i'll wait what other people will say. Aerial Ace is a really good idea, but here again, i want to see what other people says. Lanturn was my only option to counter Zapdos effectively while also controlling Ice/Water/Fire/Electric moves. He's not as gimmick as most people think ;o;
 
Chileno4Live said:
Thnx for replying both of you :)

@Komodo: Machamp with Bullet Punch makes sense, though Payback OHKO's Gengar and Azelf without Sash. I still prefer Machamp being replaced. Metagross with the third Choice item could be kinda to much, 3 choice users but then again Espeon has got Trick. Not sure what to do. I'll way till more people replies.

@Twinkytoes: I think machamp's set is good this way, it's an anti-lead version afterall. I used the standard smogon analysis for Machamp. But still i prefer he should go for a better lead. Espeon with Scarf is there to outspeed Salamence after 1 Dance and damage it with Psychic. If i had Hidden Power Ice that would've been alot easier though. But like i said, i could change it to Alakazam, which does that job better what Espeon is doing now. Honchkrow is just there for the main core and a not to competitive pokemon. It has for example alot more ATK than Weavile. your right about Metagross to use Life Orb, but i'll wait what other people will say. Aerial Ace is a really good idea, but here again, i want to see what other people says. Lanturn was my only option to counter Zapdos effectively while also controlling Ice/Water/Fire/Electric moves. He's not as gimmick as most people think ;o;
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The standard resttalk set for Machamp is better, it can kill anything, but if you want the versatility you can go for relexed and use PAyback over Stone Edge. DarkFight hits everything for atleast normal. It kills leads with equal ease as others, and anti leads tend to get screwed over by pokes that aren't leads. but if you want to replace, then go for Zapdos. Check up a set for it.

Krow may have more attack but it is not necessarily better for that sake. If it was about high stats, Rampardos would be in its own tier of Super Uber. Weavile does the job far better and a or Life Orb can do the job fine with weavile.

Looking at Lanturn closer, I agree and also see that he is all you have to deal with Skarm as Espy has no HP electric or fire. without Lanty Skarm will wall you so much, so yeh, keep Lanty,
 
Hey.

Encore is a great move on a leading Machamp. You can put it over either Payback or Stone Edge and still have very good coverage. Encore lets you get a free sub up against all those Stealth Rock leads and eases prediction greatly. It also foils Trick leads as they are forced to either Trick again or switch out.

Like you said so yourself, Alakazam is far better than Espeon at sweeping. Alakazam has 135/120 SpA/Spe whereas Espeon has 130/110. Alakazam can also run that exact same moveset, so you should really replace Espeon with Alakazam. However, to make him a more powerful threat you should give him a Timid nature and Choice Specs, which will make him a lot more deadly than a Modest Scarf version.

You already have 2 choice pokemon on your team, so I would make your Metagross an Agility gross for late game sweeping. Your Alakazam and Honchkrow should be able to break most walls in the midgame, and near the end Metagross can Agility up and sweep. I think the following set would be very effective:

Metagross @ Life Orb
Adamant
124 HP, 252 Atk, 132 Spe
- Meteor Mash
- Earthquake
- Thunderpunch
- Agility

With those speed EVs you outrun naive scarf Heatran after 1 agility, and your three attacking moves alongside Life Orb give you nice coverage and decent attacking power.

Gliscor is really the only thing standing between you and most fighting type pokemon, so I would EV him to ensure that he outruns things like Adamant Lucario before they can Ice Punch him. 252 HP, 40 Def, 216 Spe ensures you outrun all Adamant Lucario, although Jolly ones can still outspeed and hit with Ice Punch.

Good luck with your team,

LR.
 
Thnx Twinkletoes and Legacy Raider for your comments :D

@Twinkletoes: Your idea of SleepTalk can help, but i generally find Hariyama doing is far better with better HP. Maybe Guts activated and SleepTalk can pose a threat to many pokemon, i find it unreliable and uneccesary for Machamp to carry those moves as a lead, which is designed to kill other leads. Zapdos might be a good replacement, but the only good Zapdos lead i see alot is the Scarf Version, which contradicts with the statement i have to much Choice Users. Maybe another pokemon?

Honchkrow is better in some ways, and i don't really want to use Weavile every time over and over again. Honchkrow for instance, has Superpower, which is alot stronger than Brick Break, despite the fact it loses ATK and DEF after used, it still does pack alot of punch against the likes of Heatran and Tyranitar. This team is designed to hit hard, and in my opinion, Weavile doesn't hit hard enough unless it has Swords Dance. I might be stubborn, but the center pokemon of this team is Honchkrow.

About Lanturn, yes, it is my only option together with Metagross (abit thnx to Thunderpunch) against Skarmory. But i don't fear Skarmory. It can't do that much VS Metagross other than Whirlwind me, it just is a matter of time until Lanturn screws the fun and T-wave it.

@Legacy Raider: Encore is an awesome idea on Machamp, and i'll definetly try it out. I am not sure about what it does to Trick users though. for example: I'm battling a Trickgar lead, He tricks me and i encore. He just tricked me a Choice Scarf, which is useless for my Machamp and he can easily switch without any harm. But other than that, Encore still does a good job and it's rather unexpected. (Chileno4Live hears Scizor's and Salamence's crying all over the place cause their stuck in Swords Dance/Dragon Dance :D)

Like i said, i tried to be a tad bit less competitive but i guess Alakazam still does better :P The idea of Timid and Specs seems threatening for the opponent, but i won't be able to outspeed Salamence after a DD, and thats why i have scarf on my Espeon. I'm not sure to do that, but i will consider Alakazam surely.

Agiligross seems a good idea, and i'll definetly try it out. Tommorow i will make the changes because maybe someone else has a better suggestion i don't know.

@1234gjy: I would use Hidden Power fight if i could, but this is a WiFi team and getting Hidden Powers is amazingly difficult. So i opted for Signal Beam as it covers the same and hurts other Psychic types aswell.

Thnx for commenting guys :D
 
Komodo said:
Metagross @ Choice Band
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 252 hp / 252 atk / 6 def
Nature: Adamant
- Thunderpunch
- Meteor Mash
- Earthquake
- Bullet punch

bullet punch for priority and STAB + choice band = base power of 75 (40x1.5x1.5)

Machamp @ Lum Berry
Ability: No guard
EVs: 252 Hp/160 Atk/96 Def
Nature: Adamant
- Substitute
- Stone Edge
- Dynamic Punch
- Bullet punch

priority move for machamp to kill sashers with

also you should consider charge beam on lanturn to boost surf and ice beam
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Bullet punch with CB does 90... Not 75. 40x1.5 = 60 x 1.5 = 90.
 
Alakazam needs to OHKO ttar, because he is OHKO by Crunch
I personally think Agility would greatly improve Metagross's chances of sweeping, but thats just me o.0
Other than that, nice team =D
 
thnx for commenting Ph3artehPhir3.

Alakazam can Signal Beam on the switch, and then signal beam again. Thats how i was thinkin XD. Agility is a good point, i'm still considering it. Thnx for RMTing :D
 
Chileno4Live said:
thnx for commenting Ph3artehPhir3.

Alakazam can Signal Beam on the switch, and then signal beam again. Thats how i was thinkin XD. Agility is a good point, i'm still considering it. Thnx for RMTing :D
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lol no problem.
But about Alakazam; you could just use Focus Blast on the switch, hit OHKO.
Or
use focus blast on the switch, miss, use Focus Blast again, OHKO.
EDIT: For Machamp, I have an Anti-lead Medicham lead set that really kicks hard ass.
Its
Medicham@ Focus Sash
252Attack/ Whereever you want it.
Adamant/Pure Power
FakeOut
Bullet Punch
Focus Punch
Fire/Thunder Punch
OHKOs many suicide leads before they can attack.
 
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