Team of Awesome Amazing-ness

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Team of Awesome Amazing-ness (Record: 5-0)

Yeah. The title says it all.

I was thinking of the basics of a team, that being Starter/Physical Attacker/Physical Wall/Special Attacker/Special Wall/Filler, and I thought this mix of Pokemon would work. I'm not sure about the EV spreads/sets, so that's why I'm posting this. :P So without further ado... here's the team.

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Azelf @ Focus Sash
Nature: Hasty
Ability: Levitate
EV Spread: 20 Attack/252 Speed/238 Special Attack
Moves:
Stealth Rock
Psychic
Explosion
Taunt

I just started using this Azelf on Shoddy, and it works wonders for me. It allows me to set up Stealth Rock relatively quickly, and it helps me shut down Bronzongs and Skarmorys. Psychic deals pretty good damage (mostly against Gengar) and Explosion is when I can take something down.

And yeah, Weavile does sorta wall me, but at least I can get some Rocks down.

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Heracross @ Flame Orb
Nature: Adamant
Ability: Guts
EV Spread: 252 Attack/252 Speed/6 HP
Moves:
Swords Dance
Megahorn
Close Combat
Facade

I have used Flame Orb Heracross in the past, and this thing can just rip through teams. I quote from Smogon here:

Heracross has a deadly new weapon in Facade, which OHKOs bulky Gyarados (with Intimidate factored in), Gliscor, and Weezing. Hippowdon, Bronzong, and Skarmory are OHKOed by Close Combat after a Swords Dance, and every single Psychic-type in the game is OHKOed by Megahorn

Wow. That's amazing. No further comments.


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Vaporeon @ Leftovers
Nature: Bold
Ability: Water Absorb
EV Spread: 188 HP/252 Defense/68 Special Defense
Moves:
Wish
Protect
Surf
Hidden Power {Electric}

With Vaporeons ability, I can probably draw a lot of Water attacks my way with Heatran. Wish and Protect are for reliable recovery, along with Leftovers. Surf gets decent damage and hits lots of things for neutral, and Hidden Power Electric is there for bulky waters (Such as Gyarados).

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Heatran @ Choice Scarf
Nature: Modest
Ability: Flash Fire
EV Spread: 252 Special Attack/252 Speed/6 HP
Moves:
Fire Blast
Earth Power
Explosion
Hidden Power {Ice}

This is somewhat of a different Scarftran. Most don't max out their Speed EVs, which is why mine does. That way, I don't have to worry about possibly losing the Speed tie - There won't even be one! Fire Blast does a lot of damage with STAB, Earth Power demolishes other Heatrans, Explosion is whenever I'm done sweeping, and Dragon Pulse is for Garchomp and Salamence.

Speaking of which...

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Salamence @ Leftovers
Nature: Jolly
Ability: Intimidate
EV Spread: 252 HP/180 Defense/76 Speed
Moves:
Dragon Dance
Dragon Claw
Earthquake
Roost

Garchomp, eat your heart out. This baby can take on so many opponents, and sweep as well. It can survive a Swords Dance Lucario Extremespeed with ease, tear it apart with Earthquake, and Roost off the damage. Dragon Dance is to boost my mediocre Attack and Speed, and Dragon Claw gets STAB. Do I really need to explain any more?

Also, I want to point out that Heatran and Salamence are really the team itself. Heatran is weak to Ground, Water, and Fighting, which Salamence resists. Salamence is weak to Dragon and Ice, which Heatran resists. They really work well for each other. That's why I put them on the team. :pimp:

(Credit goes to Aldaron for making this awesome Salamence set)

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Blissey @ Leftovers
Nature: Calm
Ability: Natural Cure
EV Spread: 252 Defense/40 Special Attack/216 Special Defense
Moves:
Seismic Toss
Ice Beam
Softboiled
Thunder Wave


Standard Blissey. Aromatherapy allows me to cure any statuses, Seismic Toss helps wear down the opponent, Ice Beam allows me to hit things like Gengar, Dugtrio, and Garchomp, and Softboiled is for decent recovery.

So, thank you guys very much for reading my team, and I hope you can help me out. Thanks!
 
I have a suggestion on salamence's evs. You could change them to 252 hp 180 def and 76 speed. I use that spread (and it just got peer edited) and its like magic. It allows for speed that outspeeds any not boosted poke and most scarfers after 1 dd and maintains the defensive capabilities.

On regice, make it a physical curse set. Curse, Avalanch, T-punch (i think) and Rest. Good for making a solid defensive wall while still feeding the sweeper side of him.
 
Change Azelf's nature to Jolly and move the SpA EVs to Atk, since no Special moves are present, it is a waste of EVs. Put the 4 remaining in Hp, Def or SpD.

You would be better off with Aldaron's BulkyMence, which runs 280 Spe, so you can outrun neutral Lucario, as some carry HP Ice specifically for Mence and Gliscor, making you lose the ability to counter it.

On Heatran, you might want to change Dragon Pulse to HP Ice, allowing you to OHKO Gliscor if needed, but it's up to you, since Regice and Vaporeon handle Gliscor pretty well.

For Regice, I also think it would be better off with physical moves to supplemnet Curse, or just remove Regice altogether. With what, I have no idea.

That's all I could think of.
 
Azelf leads are great. If a Gengar or Ninjask comes in you can U-Turn back and have a backup Exploder. There's one problem with weaknesses which is Fighting. If something with Focus Blast comes in like Gengar who usually carries it, you can't explode. He also carries T-Bolt which takes care of Vaporeon. Salamence is your best chance against him but with HP Ice dealing 4x damage, that's not good. You should have a Pokemon with Thunder Wave in there to slow him down. Regice is good to have T-Wave and has a chance of Focus Blast missing.

Regice: You're going to want Thunderbolt and Ice Beam over Avalanche and Thunder Punch because he has much higher SpA. You might want a set like:
252 HP/252 Special Defense/6 Defense
Thunderbolt
Ice Beam
Curse
Thunder Wave

You should put Psychic on Azelf for STAB which deals ALOT due to his high SpA. Take out Taunt maybe.

Thunder wave cripples Gengar and you can then switch in Azelf to take Focus Blast (if he's still alive) and Psychic.

Hope this helps!

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For Regice, I use a Ice Beam, Thunderbolt, Thunder wave, Psych Up set. A crocune can stat up on you easily when regice is out considering thunderbolt won't do much to him. Psych Up gives you all of those Calm Minds. I use Blizzard on Regice, but that is because he is in my hail team.
 
Ice pokemon, Mamoswine and Weavile in general trouble this team, since Salamence isn't taking STAB Ice Shard's anytime soon. I would be more worried about Weavile tbh, Brick Break means that Regice can't stop it, making the Sword Dancing variants deadly. If you think you can revenge kill it back with Heatran, it's fine, but I'm warning you that a smart Weavile player does not have to predict to beat this team, as SD / Night Slash / Ice Shard / Brick Break alone can cause the biggest of problems. Azelf is not supposed to have U-Turn, it's a suicide lead, so it's meant to die, and if it does not die then sweep till something stops it, so U-Turn is useless. Psychic or Thunderbolt, or Flamethower are good replacements, with that you can change your nature back to Hasty. I really don't see Rypherior doing the CB Sweep better than Heracross does, Heracross is faster and able to learn Close Combat, which is what hits hard on any pokemon, so I would suggest replacing it with a Heracross of your own.

I suppose you're another person that is too cool to use Blissey, and that Blissey is gay, but ok. With no recovery move like Blissey, it means Regice can make use of the SleepTalk set, being a status absorber. 252 Hp / 252 Def / 4 SpDef @ Bold should be a better EV Spread, you need as much Defense as possible, since Regice huge SpDef makes up for the rest, and your moveset is SleepTalk and Rest, and you can run BoltBeam aswell for more coverage.
 
You might think that it's special that your Heatran runs max speed, but it's really not. Most Heatrans run max speed. Also, some are catching on and using +spe ScarfTran. Just to say, never stay in on an opposing ScarfTran, Vaporeon takes care of it very well, just watch out for Explosion.

On Blissey, you might want to use a Calm nature, since it might have some problems to stand up to some Special attacking threats such as Gengar. Use 252 Def / 80 SpA / 176 SpD, Calm.
 
-Bounty- said:
You might think that it's special that your Heatran runs max speed, but it's really not. Most Heatrans run max speed. Also, some are catching on and using +spe ScarfTran. Just to say, never stay in on an opposing ScarfTran, Vaporeon takes care of it very well, just watch out for Explosion.

On Blissey, you might want to use a Calm nature, since it might have some problems to stand up to some Special attacking threats such as Gengar. Use 252 Def / 80 SpA / 176 SpD, Calm.
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Okay, thanks for the help. I'll try running that Blissey set and see how it works out. Should I keep the same moveset?
 
Hey you stole my Vaporeon set!! (j/k) Can I get it maybe? Because it's a big part of my team :< And that Heatran .o.
Sadly, I can't find anything wrong right now. Just test it somewhere and see if it works out.
 
I have a minor nitpick.

On Vaporeon, the 68 SpA ev's was to score the OHKO on Garchomp, but since you don't have ice beam you should just pour those ev's to HP. Vaporeon's really only going to be attacking pokemon who are weak to its moves and i don't see those 68 SpA ev's doing too much. (Gyarados is still a 2HKO)
 
I have to say, this team looks good. especially with blissey in it, she takes alot of special attacks. Maybe i should use Bliss in my SS team lol still testing and everyone does it, but back to your topic.

IF i where you, i would use ice beam in Blissey's moveset, that way, you can attack gengar, dugtrio and some others. Especially dugtrio. Aromatherapy is good, but it isnt neccesary to use. ditch aromtherapy for Ice Beam or ditch thunder wave.

PS: No problem i did this to bump ur thread, wouldya bump my thread lol j/k
 
one of the greatest pokemon is heracross. in my view there is no doubt about it. but if you want to try somthing new, try flame orb hera. my one was able to OHKO a shuckle, skarm and a zong with CC, one after the other. set up a SD with good prediction, and you will smash through walls.
With Swords Dance and Flame Orb, Heracross' Attack will have effectively tripled, giving it a stat of roughly 1149 or 1047, depending on your nature,
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(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StJJPL1u7Ko - my hera in action!)
with wish support, you can keep him in play for a fairly long time.
with heatran, i think its pretty difficult to choose between Dragon pulse and HP ice. HP stops a dugtrio, dragons, does decent damage to hippowdon, but dragon pulse has a higher power, and is only resisted by steels, but you can just fire blast them. what ever works best for you i suppose. and you are totally right, heatran and mence can work well together, especially when slamence can just roost of damage.
the others have proven themselves, nothing else to say.
 
Alright thanks for the help everyone, I've tested it out on Smogon and gotten a 3-0 record. I've made all the necessary changes. Any others? :P
 
On Vaporeon, Use 188 HP / 252 Def / 68 SpD. The 188 HP EVs are for maximum Leftovers recovery.

And on Bliss, Thunder Wave > Aromatherapy, unless you really need Aroma. And change its EVs to 252 Def / 40 SpA / 216 SpD.
 
I don't see the need for maxed attack on Azelf. I run an Azelf-explosion lead, and don't use any attack IVs on it, and still have no problems blasting through leads. You'll probably want to drain a fair amount of ATK EVs and put them back into SpATK, since you will only use Explosion once, but you're going to be attempting to sweep with Psychic.
 
If it's good then keep it ^_^ If you change it it will only become weaker. Or not idk something that chileon said xD

Final Destiny FTW
 
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