Team Set up Abussers :p

[Eduardo(Fresas)]

Hi this is my 2nd RMT and i want to show my new team .. I apologize for my English But i dont live in USA so you know.. With this team i am getting very good results i win 8/10 of the battles. A little detail that you have to take in consideration is that i ONLY play in WiFi so .. i cant use some movesets or pokemon like rotom.

So this is the team:

A closer Look :

Swampert @ Leftovers
Torrent / Relaxed (+Def,-speed)
240hp / 216 def / 52 Sp.Def
-Stealth Rock
-Ice Beam
-Earthquake
-roar / protect / counter

Synergy :
Grass: Heatran , Scizor , Dragonite,Jirachi
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I just tried this lead and i love him. He can set up rocks 90% of the time and he can resist powerful physical atacks. Ice Beam is for 2KO aerodactyl and gliscor leads, also is good for anti lead Dragonite.Im not sure on the last move, roar is for scout the opposing team ,as well as rack up residual damage from Stealth Rock.Protect can be used as a scouting move, and can also aid Swampert in blocking Explosion from Metagross and Azelf leads; it also gives Swampert an extra turn to recover health with Leftovers.Counter can be used in late game to KO some phsysical atackers.

Suicune @ Leftovers
Pressure / Bold (+Def,-Atk )
4SpAtk. / 252 hp / 252 Def
-Calm mind
-Surf
-Ice Beam
-HP Electric

Synergy:
Elect: Dragonite
Grass: Dragonite , Heatran , Jirachi

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This is my first Set up abusser and the physical wall of the team. I like this set becouse Crocune set only have Surf for do some damage and it can be walled easily.After 1 / 2 calm minds it is very dificult to kill him and in that process the other guy will lose 1 or 2 pokemons.Surf for STAB , Ice beam for Dragonite , And HP electric is for gyarados.

Red Share (Scizor) @ Life orb
Technician / Adamant (+Atk,-Sp.Atack)
4 speed / 252 hp / 252 Atk.
-Swords Dance
-Bullet Punch
-Quick Atack
-Brick Break

Synergy:
Fire: Heatran,Dragonite
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Yes , the physical sweeper / revenge killer and the 2nd set up abusser of the team.Scizor alows many changes so it can easily set up 1 / 2 swords dance and begin the sweep. His favorite situation is vs Forretress becouse the other guy will thing that is banded and easily can do 2 / 3 swords dance , resist de explosion or gyro ball and KO with Brick Break.

Mascarin (Heatran) @Leftovers
Flash Fire / Timid (+speed,-Atk)
4hp / 252 Sp.Atk. / 252 speed
-Substitute
-Fire Blast
-Earth Power
-Toxic

Synergy:
Fight: Dragonite, Alakazam
Water: Dragonite, Suicune
Ground: Dragonite, Aerodactyl
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This set is extraordinary. He likes to take the fire hits that scizor attracts. Many people will think that is scarfer set and they will switch out so i can substitute and have a free atack. Toxic is for walls and for bulky waters.
The convination Scizor / Heatran forces a lot of changes so Rocks will be annoying fot the other guy.

Frezitaz (Dragonite) @Yache Berry
Inner Focus / Careful(+Sp.Def,-Sp.Atk)
4Def / 252 Hp / 252 Sp.Def
-Dragon Dance
-Roost
-Eartquake
-Dragon Claw

Synergy :
Ice:Heatran, Suicune , Scizor
Rock:Jirachi.Heatran , or Scizor can take Rock Moves or i can Roost for neutral damage.
Dragon:Heatran , Scizor, Jirachi
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Here is my special wall and the 3rd set up abusser.It has good synergy with scizor and Heatran. It is a very good SpDef. wall and it is helpful for the team with Thunder Wave that help heatran and Suicune.I am kind of scare about breloom so it would be a good option to absorb sleep.The Yache Berry give me a 1 extra turn to use Dragon Dance and become a very dificult threat.
Here some Damage Calculations :

• Bold 0 SpA Cresselia using Ice Beam: 40.41% - 48.70%
• Dragonite using Roost: 20.21% - 24.35%
• Calm 80 SpA Blissey using Ice Beam: 45.60% - 53.89%
• Dragonite using Roost: 22.80% - 26.94%
• Bold 0 SpA Vaporeon using Ice Beam: 55.96% - 66.32%
• Dragonite using Roost: 27.98% - 33.16%
• Timid 252 SpA Heatran using Hidden Power Ice: 58.03% - 68.39%
• Dragonite using Roost: 29.02% - 34.20%

So, Roost is obviusly for this set.

Jirachi @ Choice Scarf
Serene Grace / Jolly (+speed,-Sp.Atk)
4hp / 252 Atk / 253 speed
-Iron Head
-Fire Punch
-Thunder Punch
-Trick

Synergy:
Ground: Dragonite
Fire: Heatran , Dragonite , Suicune
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Many people tell me that Jirachi will be a great Revenge Killer. They werent wrong.ScarfJirachi is the perfect revenge killer, i just love it . I can take down weak opponents or sweep thanks for the flinch.I just love how it can 2KO / 3KO many treaths for the team. He have good defences and in only of the 40 % of the time he will recieve an atack.

So this is my team i hope you rate it.:naughty:

 

[Delko]

Hello, got your PM ^^

Offensive Suicune is such a beast, it can wreck unprepared team so he fits your team perfectly. I do however suggest a different EV spread on him. A spread of 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe will maximize its offensive capabilities. Also a Timid nature is suggested here.

On Scizor I would also like to suggest Bug Bite instead of Quick Attack. Bug Bite is STAB and it also gets a Technician boost. This attack is stronger then Quick Attack because you'll need all the power you can get when you're up against bulky waters like Suicune and Swampert (pokemon who can still take your hits even at +2). I also suggest a little EV spread change. The prefered spread is 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe. You could also consider Leftovers as an item for a little bit reliable recovery every turn.

I also suggest a slightly different Dragonite set. Smart opponent who are using a stall team can outplay you, they'll switch to walls while you are slowly drained by your own Life Orb. So I suggest you use a Stallbreaker / Mixed attack set for Dragonite instead as it is able to plow through opposing stall teams (no matter how uncommon they are on wifi):

Dragonite @ life orb/ rash/ inner focus
200 Atk / 252 SpA / 60 Spe

- Draco Meteor
- Fire Blast
- Superpower
- Extremespeed

Fire Blast and Superpower break to so called SkarmBliss cores of stallish team; Draco Meteor provides you with a powerful STAB'ed move which is sure to dent something and Extremespeed is a great move to finish of faster foes.

The last thing I would like to suggest is replacing Alakazam. Jirachi makes a fine option here. Also, with Jirachi instead of Alakazam you are provided with a somewhat solid Rock resist (if you can get Jirachi on WiFi). A Scarf set would with in here perfectly.

You could also go with another option if you can't get Jirachi. I was going to suggest a Rotom appliance but since you use this team for Wifi I don't think that will work. So instead I suggest Gengar. Gengar is a feared pokemon against both offensive as stallish teams:

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Gengar @ expert belt/ timid/ levitate
4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

- Substitute
- Shadow Ball
- Focus Blast
- Thunderbolt

This is pretty much a standard set for Gengar, but is works. Shadow Ball and Focus Blast give good coverage. Thunderbolt is another move to help you with Bulky Waters and Substitute protects you from being revenge killed and status.

Hope this helped and good luck with the team!

 

[Eduardo(Fresas)]

Hello, got your PM ^^

Offensive Suicune is such a beast, it can wreck unprepared team so he fits your team perfectly. I do however suggest a different EV spread on him. A spread of 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe will maximize its offensive capabilities. Also a Timid nature is suggested here.

On Scizor I would also like to suggest Bug Bite instead of Quick Attack. Bug Bite is STAB and it also gets a Technician boost. This attack is stronger then Quick Attack because you'll need all the power you can get when you're up against bulky waters like Suicune and Swampert (pokemon who can still take your hits even at +2). I also suggest a little EV spread change. The prefered spread is 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe. You could also consider Leftovers as an item for a little bit reliable recovery every turn.

I also suggest a slightly different Dragonite set. Smart opponent who are using a stall team can outplay you, they'll switch to walls while you are slowly drained by your own Life Orb. So I suggest you use a Stallbreaker / Mixed attack set for Dragonite instead as it is able to plow through opposing stall teams (no matter how uncommon they are on wifi):

Dragonite @ life orb/ rash/ inner focus
200 Atk / 252 SpA / 60 Spe

- Draco Meteor
- Fire Blast
- Superpower
- Extremespeed

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The last thing I would like to suggest is replacing Alakazam. I was going to suggest a Rotom appliance but since you use this team for Wifi I don't think that will work. So instead I suggest Gengar. Gengar is a feared pokemon against both offensive as stallish teams. I do suggest you'd have Substitute in your moveset as ScarTar is everywhere these days and Gengar can also be revenged killed quite easily. Shadow Ball / Focus Blast / Substitute/ Thunderbolt make a fine set. I suggest Expert Belt as an item as it fakes a Choice Item, it doesn't chop away your HP every turn while it still power up your moves. Of course you'll want all the speed you can get so Timid is prefered.

You could also go with Jirachi instead of Alakazam as is also provides you with a somewhat solid Rock resist.

Hope this helped and good luck with the team!

Hi thank yo to rate my team but i desagree with you in dragonite and suicune. If i change evs spread i will not have deffensive pokemon so i will be weak in that point.
Amm what set and evs spread should i run on jirachi??

 

[GaRgAnt]

First off, Aerodactyl is a suicide lead. It's designed to get up SR up, hopefully stopping other leads from setting it up, and then setting it up as a last act. The Aerodactyl is kept in memory of the teammates, who keep such offensive pressure on the opponents that it's impossible for them to get themselves SR up... Which is hopefully what can happen, but Aerodactyl is a commonly known lead and the metagame has evolved to respond to it. I'm no fan of Aerodactyl; Aerodactyl makes you only have five team members instead of 6. But, if you can keep up the offensive pressure you're fine.

GODDAMMIT, WHAT THE HELL IS UP WITH PEOPLE? What the hell is SD Scizor outspeeding with an Adamant 4 HP/252 Attack/252 Speed spread??? Crocune? Then why don't you devote EVs to bulk after you make sure you've outsped the damn thing? Guys, Scizor is a tank because it has one of the game's best typings, not because of its defensive stats. Base 100 defense and base 85 special defense isn't bad, but with base 70 HP it needs all the investment that can be spared.

I said you should outspeed Crocune at least- Therefore, change the EV spread to 80 HP/252 Attack/176 speed and keep the Adamant nature. This outspeeds Crocune and any Metagross/Empoleon that's aiming for 209 speed to outspeed Scarftran after an Agility and gives you... At LEAST 10% more bulk... I think? X_X Someone tell me how to calculate that...

I agree with Delko on one point; Jirachi should go over Alakazam as a revenge killer since with a Scarf it's outspeeding... Everything without one that's got less speed than base 100. Go with this:

Jirachi @ Choice Scarf
4 HP/252 Attack/252 Speed
Jolly

~Iron Head
~Insert Elemental Punch
~Insert U-turn/another Elemental Punch
~Trick

This beats anything that you pack the elemental punch for- Gyarados giving you hell? Give it a T-pawnch. Tyranitar pulled out two dragon dances out of nowhere? Flinch it to hell. You really really wanna kill Scizor and Forry in a single shot? Give Jirachi Fire Punch! And if you're up against stall Trick your Scarf for the lols. I recommend just giving Jirachi T-punch and U-turn since this metagame no longer requires Ice Punch with Salamence gone. Dragonite can be Tricked a Scarf accordingly (Don't Iron Head it, it's got Inner Focus) and you can play around the move you locked it onto.

I again disagree with Delko- Suicune does not need a 4/252/252 spread, like Scizor doesn't either. Go with THIS spread: 24 HP/216 Defense/252 Special Attack/16 Speed with a Bold nature. This keeps Suicune bulky and lets you use it as a Dragonite/Gyarados/Agiligross check since it can literally tank ANYTHING they throw at it with this spread. It also has the virtue of again hitting 210 speed, outspeeding Subpetaya Empoleon and Agiligross that aim to only outspeed Scarftran.

Note that if you plan on setting up with Dragonite in the face of Ice-type moves, you should give Dragonite Light Screen. With this, it'll have doubled special defense, and you'll be up to at least 3+ before your opponent realizes the futility of their efforts of Ice Beaming you and send in something physical... Which you promptly kill.

Replace your current Dragonite with:

Dragonite @ Leftovers
252 HP/56 Special Defense/200 speed
Careful

~Dragon Dance
~Dragon Claw
~Light Screen
~Roost

You wanted to set up on Ice Beams? Then this is for you.

Hope I helped.

 

[ginganinja]

I really don't like how your Dragonit is walled by steel types. I feel that Heatran in particular threatens you. Ironically enough your team is weak to SubHeatran since Heatran and get a free Sub off Dragonite and Toxic it. Your team hates a Heatran with Toxic and it threatens your team. Thus I would prefer to see Earthquake over Thunder Wave. This leaves you pretty much only walled by Bronzong and Skarmory; 2 pokemon that Heatran likes to come in on.

I also don't really like Aerodactyl on the team. A fast taunt does not do too much for your team and I believe that a Lead Gliscor serves you better. It can last much longer than Aerodactly and abuse Taunt more effectivally.

I agree with the suggestion for Jirachi over Alakazam. Scarf Jirachi suits you best and helps you revenging threats.

Have a Nice Day!

 

[Eduardo(Fresas)]

I really don't like how your Dragonit is walled by steel types. I feel that Heatran in particular threatens you. Ironically enough your team is weak to SubHeatran since Heatran and get a free Sub off Dragonite and Toxic it. Your team hates a Heatran with Toxic and it threatens your team. Thus I would prefer to see Earthquake over Thunder Wave. This leaves you pretty much only walled by Bronzong and Skarmory; 2 pokemon that Heatran likes to come in on.

I also don't really like Aerodactyl on the team. A fast taunt does not do too much for your team and I believe that a Lead Gliscor serves you better. It can last much longer than Aerodactly and abuse Taunt more effectivally.

I agree with the suggestion for Jirachi over Alakazam. Scarf Jirachi suits you best and helps you revenging threats.

Have a Nice Day!

thank you for rate my team what set and ev spread should i run on gliscor??

 

[Faladran]

Alright, finally have time to rate your team!

At a glance, I can definitely see the common Swords Dance Lucario causing this team major problems. There are a couple of suggestions I'd like to make that should make it more solid overall:

First, I'd like to recommend you switch to the Offensive Suicune set:

Suicune @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 4 HP/252 Spd/252 SAtk
Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Hidden Power [Electric]
- Ice Beam
- Surf

With this set, you retain the great coverage you already have, but receive added speed and power. It still functions as a great Gyarados check, can check Adamant Lucario, and also is a great sweeper. I know you've mentioned that you feel running Bold gives you some extra defensive ability, but Suicune is really bulky enough to still work well without it.

Also, switch Alakazam out. I can see the power of a Choice Specs set might be appealing, but enemy Tyranitars can switch into most of its attacks too easily and KO back with Pursuit. Same situation with opposing Scizors.

The best replacement I can think of is Sub-Pain Split Gengar:

Gengar (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP/252 Spd/252 SAtk
Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Focus Blast
- Shadow Ball
- Pain Split
- Substitute

This is definitely the best Gengar set at the moment. With Substitute and Pain Split, Gengar can beat Blissey by draining its health and finishing it with Focus Blast(s), and being behind a Sub means you could get multiple opportunities to attack enemy Tyranitar with Focus Blast. If you don't want to take the risk, keep in mind also that switching out of Pursuit while behind a Sub only destroys the Sub, but leaves your Pokemon undamaged. Gengar also gets many more chances to switch in safely than Alakazam because of its 3 immunities to Ground, Normal, and Fighting.

On Dragonite, switch out Thunder Wave / Sleep Talk for Earthquake. The coverage against Steel-types is invaluable.

Good luck!

 

[dws93rd]

Hey, I got your PM.

I agree with ginganinja on replacing your Aerodactyl lead with a Gliscor lead. Use this set.

Gliscor @ Leftovers | Ability:Sand Veil
252Hp/4Def/252Spe | Nature: Jolly
Earthquake/Stealth Rock/Roost/Taunt

This keeps with the bulkiness of your team and allows you to stay at 6-6 in the early stages, rather than 5-6. Also, this guy come back in and wreck any stall or hopes of set-up, thanks to Taunt.

On the Suicune set, I think you should run the set GaRgAnt proposed, as you gain more offensive capabilities, while losing a minimal amount of bulk. You need to keep Suicune bulky to deal with Pokemon that get up set-up on your team, mainly Gyarados and Dragonite.

I too think you should run ScarfRachi>Alakazam. As he serves as a very good revenge killer.

Good luck

 

[davud363000]

I think your Alakazam, if you keep it at all, can be switched to a sub-3 attack version. Specs doesn't really help you that much, as u can 2hko everything that you normally would anyways holding a lifeorb.
Alakazam @ Lifeorb 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe Timid
~ Substitute
~ Psychic
~ Focus Blast
~ Shadow Ball
The perks of using Zam over gengar are that you outspeed Starmie and Scarf-Tar, and you hit harder. The downside is that you die. Really fast.

 

[BlazeMurder]

I got your PM.

First of all, Alakazam is extremely fragile when it comes to using him in OU. I think if you replaced Alakazam with Machamp you will have more synergy on your team. Go with this set:

Choice Bander
Adamant
252Hp/252Atk/4Spe
~Dynamic Punch
~Payback
~Stone Edge
~Bullet Punch

Machamp with a staggering 591 Atk will do damage to any and everything in its way.

Second, You should run a Mixed Scarf Nite, it will allow you to revenge kill, wall breaking and helps increase your chances of sweeping.

MixNite
Mild/Rash
Evs:116 Atk / 192 SpA / 200 Spe
~ Superpower
~ Draco Meteor
~ Flamethrower
~ Thunderbolt

One more thing. Change the name of Scizor to Red Steel ^_^

 

[Smith]

Hey I got your message! I'm going to support the changes above me to using Gliscor and Gengar over Alakazam and Aerodactyl.

On Suicune, The Ev spread isn't really ideal. Crocune has the ability to run defense because he also has recovery. Your suicune is currently a boosting wall without any speed or recovery, and that simply doesn't work. You really are going to want 252 SpAtk / 252 Spe / 4 HP on him, Timid. I know you're against this, but he'll still be somewhat defensive- the difference is that he now poses a threat to the opposition.

Dragonite also isn't running the ideal set. I understand that you like boostign walls, but thunder wave simply isn't a good option. Dragonite is walled pretty badly by all steel types, which poppulate the metagame to no end. I think Earthquake would be better over Thunder wave/sleep talk. Yes, Skarmory walls you, but no longer does Heatran/Jirachi/Metagross etc.

Combined with the other rates, I think this team will be good. Hope this all helps.

 

[Eduardo(Fresas)]

umm thank you for the rates. Changes r in RED.

 

[NightShadow]

hi, i got your PM.

I personally have to disagree with BlazeMurder. CB Machamp is way too slow for this team. I honestly think this team is leaned towards a sort of Bulky Offense Team since you have Pokemon like Offensive CM Suicune and Bulky Dragon Dance Dragonite. However, I think Heatran does not really fit in this team as well, because it doesn't really set-up that much. I suggest a SD Lucario. Also, I suggest making Jirachi specially orientated, a CM or Sub-CM one.

Sorry for the quick rate, I don't have too much time :/

 

[Eduardo(Fresas)]

umm no more rates ???