Intro
Time for a new team. Not really much to say, apart from it's not to standard. Which is nice for a change. Also please read through most of thread before commenting, it took a bit of time to do, mainly becasue I did it piece by piece, but I'd still like you to pay some respect and read it properly.
Time for a new team. Not really much to say, apart from it's not to standard. Which is nice for a change. Also please read through most of thread before commenting, it took a bit of time to do, mainly becasue I did it piece by piece, but I'd still like you to pay some respect and read it properly.
First Look
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The Lead
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Shaymin *HellRaiser* @ Occa Berry
Ability: Nature Cure
Nature: Timid
EV's: 252 Special Attack | 4 Special Defense | 252 Speed
Moveset:
Seed Flare
Earth Power
HP Fire
Rest
Shaymin *HellRaiser* @ Occa Berry
Ability: Nature Cure
Nature: Timid
EV's: 252 Special Attack | 4 Special Defense | 252 Speed
Moveset:
Seed Flare
Earth Power
HP Fire
Rest
A rather strange lead to say the least. But so far Shaymin has done great. It usually get to a 6-5 advantage, right from the start. It 2HKO's most of the todays standard leads. It also rather uselful, as many people Taunt it from the start, as they're unsure on what Shyamin will do, only preventing me from using Rest, but allowing me a free 2HKO. Seed Flare is a must on Shaymin, letting me rape Swampert, and 2HKO Aerodactyl, also very useful due to it's huge 180 power. Earth Power 2HKO's Metagross, Infernape, Shuca Heatran and around 50% chance of 2HKOing Jirachi. HP Fire is only useful for Scizor, but I found it switching into Shaymin too many times, and started to get annoying, so I swapped HP Ice for Fire, just to destroy Scizor. Rest has been amazingly useful, I only used it in the first place as a filler, and because it works well with Natural cure, but it got more and more helpful. Also allowing Shaymin to come back to battle later game, fit and healthy. Occa Berry allows me to take on Heatran and Infernape. Timid hasn't been too helpful so far, it's only letting me break Roserade's Sash, but as I've not seen one in a long long time I'm tempted to go to Modest, just for that extra power, and ability to 2HKO Lead Jirachi. EV's are just max Speed and Special Attack to help me to 2HKO most Leads, which still letting Shaymin be usful late game thanks to it's nice bulk and good speed. The only Lead I really lost to is Anti-Lead Dragonite, but I can switch to Suicune on the Fire Blast, the OHKO with Ice Beam.
Top 10 Leads:
: Seed Flare, then switch to Steelix predicting the Explosion. If it has Fire Blast, go to Vaporeon, then Protect on the Explosion.
: Seed Flare 1HKO.
: Earth Power 2HKO.
: Seed Flare 2HKO
: Earth Power usually a 2HKO.
: Earth Power 2HKO.
: HP Fire, then switch to Flygon and U-Turn.
: Seed Flare 2HKO.
: Switch straight to Steelix to Roar it out.
: Earth Power 2HKO.
Isn't on the list but Machamp is becoming popular.
: Seed Flare 2HKO.
Synergy:
Isn't on the list but Machamp is becoming popular.
Synergy:
Fire: Flygon | Suicune | Vaporeon
Ice: Suicune | Vaporeon
Bug: Machamp | Steelix
Flying: Steelix
Ice: Suicune | Vaporeon
Bug: Machamp | Steelix
Flying: Steelix
The Sweeping Force
Physical Sweeper | Revenge Killer
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Flygon *Antlion* @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Levitate
Nature: Jolly
EV's: 252 Attack | 4 Defense | 252 Speed
Moveset:
Outrage
Earthquake
U-Turn
Physical Sweeper | Revenge Killer
Flygon *Antlion* @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Levitate
Nature: Jolly
EV's: 252 Attack | 4 Defense | 252 Speed
Moveset:
Outrage
Earthquake
U-Turn
Fire Punch | Thunder Punch | Stone Edge
I needed a revenge killer for the team, also something Physical, and needed a Electric Resistance, this why I have Flygon. He's done alright so far, letting me check a few threats, and being able to scout. The only problem I have with him is is lack of raw power. I would probably of used Latias is this position, be she's been banished to Ubers, so that's annoying. I may have to keep Flygon for now. As I don't really know what to replace it with, only if Garchomp was OU. Choice Scarf Mamoswine could get this spot, great Attack, good coverage, the only problem is it's lack luster Speed, it's good, but not great. But Ice Shard will let me destroy DD Salamance without the speed tie. But Mamoswine will make me more Nasty Plot Infernape weak due to Vaccum Wave, which is annoying. So I'm stuck on what to do.
Outrage + Earthquake get nearly unresisted coverage, plus with the benefit of STAB with Flygon. U-Turn is for Scouting, and that last slot if just a filler. Fire Punch gets Scizor for the OHKO and 2HKO's Forretress, and I prefer it to Fire Blast. Thunder Punch lets me easily despose of Gyarados, and Stone Edge gets me some coverage, but not much. Choice Scarf to boost my speed sky high, and EV's are max Speed and Attack for best possible sweeping capabilities.
Synergy:
I needed a revenge killer for the team, also something Physical, and needed a Electric Resistance, this why I have Flygon. He's done alright so far, letting me check a few threats, and being able to scout. The only problem I have with him is is lack of raw power. I would probably of used Latias is this position, be she's been banished to Ubers, so that's annoying. I may have to keep Flygon for now. As I don't really know what to replace it with, only if Garchomp was OU. Choice Scarf Mamoswine could get this spot, great Attack, good coverage, the only problem is it's lack luster Speed, it's good, but not great. But Ice Shard will let me destroy DD Salamance without the speed tie. But Mamoswine will make me more Nasty Plot Infernape weak due to Vaccum Wave, which is annoying. So I'm stuck on what to do.
Outrage + Earthquake get nearly unresisted coverage, plus with the benefit of STAB with Flygon. U-Turn is for Scouting, and that last slot if just a filler. Fire Punch gets Scizor for the OHKO and 2HKO's Forretress, and I prefer it to Fire Blast. Thunder Punch lets me easily despose of Gyarados, and Stone Edge gets me some coverage, but not much. Choice Scarf to boost my speed sky high, and EV's are max Speed and Attack for best possible sweeping capabilities.
Synergy:
Dragon: Steelix
Ice: Suicune | Vaporeon
Ice: Suicune | Vaporeon
Bulky Physical Attacker
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Machamp *C.Norris* @ Leftovers
Ability: No Guard
Nature: Adamant
EV's: 248 HP | 252 Attack | 8 Speed
Moveset:
Dynamic Punch
Payback
Stone Edge
Substitute
Machamp *C.Norris* @ Leftovers
Ability: No Guard
Nature: Adamant
EV's: 248 HP | 252 Attack | 8 Speed
Moveset:
Dynamic Punch
Payback
Stone Edge
Substitute
This thing is truely amazing. If it's behind a Sub, it's ensured to get atleat one kill, 2 kills most of the time. Thanks to Dynamic Punch stupidity of 150 power, 100% Accuracy and 100% Confusion rate he has a lot of chances to set up. Tyranitar and Blissey are easy set up bait, Subing up when they flee, then proceeding to destroy anything in its way. Dynamic Punch is just pure win. 150 power, 100% Accuracy and 100% Confusion rate and all behind the protect of a Sub. Payback lets me hit the annoying ghost types, mainly the Rotoms, but only when behind a Sub, as I'm not risking any Burns on Machamp. And Stone Edge hits mainly Gyarados and Salamance, whom both laugh at Dynamic Punch and Payback. Leftovers give me durability, and allow me to make more Subs, EV's are max Attack, and 8 Speed to outspeed Blissey, because that's somehow helpful, rest is thrown into HP.
Synergy:
Psychic: Steelix
Flying: Steelix
Psychic: Steelix
Flying: Steelix
Special Sweeper
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Suicune *NorthWind* @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
Nature: Timid
EV's: 4 Defense | 252 Special Attack | 252 Speed
Moveset:
Hydro Pump
Ice Beam
HP Electric
Calm Mind
Suicune *NorthWind* @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
Nature: Timid
EV's: 4 Defense | 252 Special Attack | 252 Speed
Moveset:
Hydro Pump
Ice Beam
HP Electric
Calm Mind
Suicune has done pretty good so far. Still being rather fast and having acceptable Special Attack, while still being quite bulky for a sweeper. This is based on the element of surprise, seeing as CroCune is usually seen as Suicune standard set, but I really don't know why this isn't used more often. This thing can tear though unprepared teams, and has done that a few times. The only thing I'm thinking of changing Leftovers to Life Orb. Leftovers is very helpful, but it sometimes lacks enough power when dealing against bulky waters such as Vaporeon and CroCrune, despite having HP Electric. I usually need 3 or 4 Calm Minds to 2HKO Vaporeon, by then I've been hit by Toxic, and my life is short from there on thanks to Wish. But I'm still unsure of that. Hydro Pump is my main attacking option, may go with Surf though due to added accuracy. Ice Beam hits Dragon and Grass types for good damage, and HP Electric lets me hit most of the water types. Leftovers lets me live for longer, while the added power of Life Orb would be helpful. EV's are best for Sweeping.
Synergy:
Electric: Shaymin | Flygon | Steelix
Grass: Shaymin
Electric: Shaymin | Flygon | Steelix
Grass: Shaymin
The Defensive Force
Physical Wall
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Steelix *Iron Will* @ Leftovers
Ability: Rock Head
Nature: Sassy
EV's: 252 HP | 4 Attack | 252 Special Defense
IVs: 0 Speed
Moveset:
Gyro Ball
Earthquake
Stealth Rock
Roar
Physical Wall
Steelix *Iron Will* @ Leftovers
Ability: Rock Head
Nature: Sassy
EV's: 252 HP | 4 Attack | 252 Special Defense
IVs: 0 Speed
Moveset:
Gyro Ball
Earthquake
Stealth Rock
Roar
I needed a Steel type in my team, like any other team, this would be Skamory, but another Electrice weakness would be stupid, let Jolteon basically laugh at my team after Flygon was dead. Steelix can laugh at Jolteon and OHKO with Earthquake. Unless it's randomly got HP Fighting, mainly for Ttar. Steelix has done acceptable, I'd like to replace him, but he's fine here until I get a replacement. I also chose him so I'd have something to set up Rocks, and needed a physically bulky Phazer, mainly something to stop CurseLax, whom I hate a lot. He can also absorb Toxic and Thunder Wave which is always helpful, and he's got a few handy resistances. He can also usually take on DD Ttar if it's carrying Fire Punch, but it's still a bit risky. Gyro Ball has a bit of power behind it with Steelix's pathetic speed, Earthquake lets me hit Steel Types like Metagross, Stealth Rock is Stealth Rock and Roar lets me Phaze. Leftovers for durability, and EV's and max Special Defense as his Defense is already sky high, and max HP.
Synergy:
Fire: Flygon | Suicune | Vaporeon
Water: Shaymin | Suicune | Vaporeon
Fighting:
Ground: Shaymin | Flygon
Fire: Flygon | Suicune | Vaporeon
Water: Shaymin | Suicune | Vaporeon
Fighting:
Ground: Shaymin | Flygon
Wish Passer
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Vaporeon *Wishes* @ Leftovers
Ability: Water Absorb
Nature: Bold
EV's: 188 HP | 252 Defense | 68 Speed
Moveset:
Surf
HP Electric
Wish
Protect
Vaporeon *Wishes* @ Leftovers
Ability: Water Absorb
Nature: Bold
EV's: 188 HP | 252 Defense | 68 Speed
Moveset:
Surf
HP Electric
Wish
Protect
I love this thing, it's so annoying to annoy who plays against it. Sending Wishes to everyone in the team, seeing as almost all of them (apart from Shaymin) have to rely on Leftovers for Recovery, and Flygon has none. So Wish is extremely helpful as everyone on my team is pretty bulky. It can also happily despose of DD Gyarados easily, but that isn't much of a threat. It also keeps MixApe from causing choas along with Flygon. So this thing is extremely helpful for this team. Also having a handy Water immunity. Also gets great synergy with Shaymin. Surf is my strongest attack, disposing of Infernape and Heatran, also need some attacking power. HP Electric deals with Gyarados. Wish for HP recovery, for Vaporeon and the rest of the team, and Protect if Vaporeon stays in for the recovery so she can safely restore HP. Leftovers for durability. 188 gets me extra Leftover recovery I think, max defense for more bulk, then the rest in Speed.
Synergy:
Electric: Shaymin | Flygon | Steelix
Grass: Shaymin
Electric: Shaymin | Flygon | Steelix
Grass: Shaymin
Final Thoughts
This team has done well, better than I expected at the start. The team together fuction quite well, with all round bulk and good synergy. As I said, I'd like to replace one or two Pokemon as they're not been performing as good as I'd like them to. So please feel free to comment and suggest for this team.