Team Stanky Leg

Neutral777

Hey all, I gots a team to be looked at.

This is made for the current Shoddy OU metagame.

Here they are in no particular order:


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**Machy**Machamp@Leftovers
Adamant : No Guard
252 HP, 252 Atk, 6 Def
Dynamic Punch
Payback
Stone Edge
Bulk Up

This kid is made to deal with Blissey/Snorlaxen that could whore my team into oblivion. Bulk Up is mainly just to add some extra weight if needed but isn't exactly necessary. Payback smacks them ghosts around and Stone Edge hits them fliers. I notice that a lot of my team use Special Attacks so Machy will keep them attacking without all the walling.


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**Lebi**Celebi@Leftovers
Bold: Natural Cure
252 Hp, 220 Def, 38 Spe
Recover
Leech Seed
Grass Knot
Psychic/HP: Fire

I am thinking of Psychic > HP Fire for some STAB that isn't weight dependant. Most Grass-types are part Poison so Psychic will still do some nice damage. HP could handle other Celebi, but Heatran packs some fire...anyway. Leech Seed + Recover is a stall tactic. Heatran hates bulky waters and Lebi's Grass Knots can deal with that trash.


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**Atra**Heatran@Leftovers
Timid: Flash Fire
4 HP, 252 SpA, 252 Spe
Substitute
Will-o-Wisp
Earth Power
Fire Blast

This kid will protect Lebi from Fire, Bug, Dark, and Ice while throwing Wisp around to halt some physical threats. Earth Power and Fire Blast are sexy damage. Lebi takes the bulky waters while Atra spanks the nonsense that comes. They are friends. Substitute can help me scout or throw wisps safely.

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**Ruel**Tentacruel@Black Sludge
Calm: Liquid Ooze
252 HP, 120 Def, 136 SpD
Surf
Toxic Spikes
Rapid Spin
Ice Beam

Entry Hazards are dank so Ruel spins them off. Ghosts piss me off...HP: Ghost would be kinky. Seriously, Its main point is to TS and spin off the nonsense. Non-Psychic Celebi would hate this guy. It can serve as a little help to take some Water and Ice attacks that would fly at Lebi and Atra.

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**Snorks**Kingdra@Leftovers
Adamant: Swift Swim
252 Atk, 252 Spd, 4 HP
Dragon Dance
Outrage
Waterfall
Yawn

Physical Powerhouse of the team. Just made to smack stuff around. With Toxic Spikes around and the Leech Seeding and the Wisping, I shouldn't need to take too long to set up and pick off the weaklings in the pack. Yawn can score me from TS and a free DD. Btw, If you nostalgia'd at the nickname, +1 to you.

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**Appy**Zapdos@Life Orb
Timid: Pressure
4 HP, 252 SpA, 252 Spe
Thunderbolt
Heat Wave
HP Grass
Roost

I am iffy here but I wanted a pure attacking pokemon of the special variety. I felt that Electric wasn't a bad idea. Scare off Gyarados and Scizor a bit. I don't fear Stealth Rock because Tentacruel should be around enough to spin it away. Until then, this bad boy won't see a battle until necessary.

The main issue with the team is that I have no lead. Let me know what you think should be revamp'd for a lead procedure. I guess Appy would make a good lead but I can't figure which one would fit the bill.

Your thoughts?​

As a side note: I think I am going to do a mono-type run of Pokemon Fire Red for giggles. Which type should I choose? Realistically, Ice and Dragon are the only two types that wouldn't work because you get them fairly late game. Think funky. Lez do eet.
 
Neutral777 said:
The main issue with the team is that I have no lead.
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Theres your answer joshe

Anyways, onto the team, i'd make Machamp the lead, though, get a bulkier spread, You can use the Anti-Lead spread from the analizis, that should work just fine.

On Celebi, the Only reason to use HP Fire, is to take down Incoming Scizors, or change your ev spread to outspeed it, but seeing as you have two of the best Scizor counters, Heatran and Zapdos, go with Psychic, To hit things like Breloom and opposing Machamps.

Next is Tentacruel, Toxic Spikes, wont help too much here, as your team looks more of a bulky-offense, and DD Salamence runs through your teamafter setting up on Celebi once it realizes you have no T-Wave nor HP Ice, so i would change Tentacruel for Donphan, as it gets the always needed Stealth Rock up, and can revenge kill Mence no prob with ice shard.

Lastly i would change Kingdra to a Rain Dacer Set, i just dont like the fact that unless you can get 2-3 DD's, you wont sweep anything, while skarmory/Suicune/ or even Swampert will roar easily.
 
Well one of the most obvious and major flaws to your team is the lack of Stealth Rock. I would replace Tentacruel with Forretress. He can still Rapid Spin, and works extremely well in with Heatran. You can still have Toxic Spikes and Stealth Rock, plus he resists all of Zapdos' weaknesses.
 
To clarify:

I should have a Machamp lead. Did you suggest I just change up the EVs or the moveset as well?

I should replace Tentacruel with Donphan/Forretress for the Rapid Spin + Stealth Rocks.

Rain Dance Kingdra > DD Kingdra.

I'll test these changes and edit the team accordingly.

Any other thoughts?
 
It's late, but some things...

Would change machamp to the anti-lead machamp in the analysis

Ur dd kingdra is fine imo, personally currently prefer dd kingdra a lot over RD kingdra especially w/ the manaphy test

But yeah, replace tenta w/ forretress or something (NOT Donphan). Rapid spin isn't even that necessary on this team, as only zap is weak to rocks, so u can really use anything w/ SR, forretress seems fine though.

Most immediate problem I see is the lack of speed, salamence w/ a dd will sweep pretty easily, and I mean a lack of speed is just problem in general.

Easy solution is just to use a scarf heatran instead, but idk, scarf heatran has seemed kinda risky w/ all the waters lately.

sorry i can't really suggest much
 
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