Team that got me to 1st on Leaderboard (Ubers RMT)

This will probably be my last Uber RMT, Im looking to either go into OU, or if I suck at that, I'll find something else to do. Anyways I'll be leaving for the 4 day weekend soon, so I typed this up last night as a RMT

Originally I made this team because I was upset at a former #1 resident, but it appears it was pretty good overall against the rest of variety of teams as well.

Now that I got to number 1, I can't win either way. I lose points just for signing on, then lose some more for winning. It looks like I can't go any higher, but I dont need to because I think I have a comfortable lead against the people below me

One last note, I DID NOT cheat to get to number 1, I just beat other players fair and square, but it did take a long time though. (about a week?)

2nd last note, Points of emphasis will be in Bold.

So now, Onto the Team!

The Lead:
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@ Choice Scarf

Timid/Modest
252 SpA/252 Speed/4 HP
-Dark Pulse
-Dark Void
-Focus Blast
-Ice Beam

Deoxys E leads were a big thing back then, so Scarf Darkrai is about the only thing that can outspeed and either stop it or force it to switch out. Dark Void with Bad Dreams also destroys Focus Sash. I was thinking about going Modest for some extra power, but it turns out I needed Timid to tie with other Scarf Darkrai leads, and to beat Timid Scarf Azelf.

Focus Blast for Scarf Dialga, Ice Beam for DDRayquaza and Rock Polish Groudon, and Dark Pulse for STAB and Mewtwo.

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@ Leftovers

Adamant
252 HP/ 92 Atk/ 32 Def/ 136 SpDef
-Dragon Claw
-Earthquake
-Stealth Rock
-Thunder Wave

This guy is so essential to my team. Initially, by replacing my own DeoxysE with Darkrai, I had no Stealth Rock on my team. So I added Groudon. It turns out he can do so much more than just set up the Rocks. The SpDef and HP Evs allow him to be 3HKOed by Palkia's Spacial Rend with Leftovers, I think. HP and 32 Def EVs also allow him to survive a Life Orb +1 Outrage from Rayquaza. Through the process, I could just TWave them, making them easier to kill.

Of course, it is also my switch into Tyranitar, Garchomp and Scizor. Metagross with Explosion is a different story. Also, it brings on the Sunlight, weakening Palkia's Surf, so that it'll have to Meteor to kill Mewtwo, where I could just bring in Scizor. Sunlight also makes Fire Blast on Dialga and Mewtwo more powerful, which is why this is the ultimate team player.

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@ Choice Scarf

Hasty
52 Atk/252 SpAtk/204 Speed
-Dragon Pulse
-Draco Meteor
-Outrage
-Fire Blast

My second Scarfer, It stonewalls SDRayquaza, should Groudon get Waterfalled. Not much to say here, Its just so great. Fire Blast and Thunder to abuse both weathers, Draco Meteor for that extra omph against Mewtwo and Darkrai, Dragon Pulse for some late game sweeps.
It it is also important to note that this beats Scarf Palkia one on one almost every time if they're both full health, because a Timid Meteor from Palkia cant KO.

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@ Life Orb

Timid
6 Def/ 252 SpAtk/ 252 Speed
-Aura Sphere
-Fire Blast
-Grass Knot
-Ice Beam

My primary offensive sweeper, and it does the job so well. People complain that it lacks STAB, which is true, but it hits well on weaknesses. If you think about it, Super Effective Grass Knots/Fire Blasts are more powerful than a Neutral STAB Draco Meteor. Then theres Life Orb, which makes this thing very versatile.

It can revenge anything except Scarfers and DeoxysA, since its just about the fastest thing in the game. Aura Sphere for Darkrai and Dialga, Fire Blast for Sunlight and Steel Types, Ice Beam for Giratina and Rayquaza, and Grass Knot for Kyogre and Groudon. That pretty much covers the entire threat list!

The one thing it cant beat one on one is Palkia, even if it isnt Scarfed, and as such it causes my team a load of problems.


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@ Life Orb

Adamant
240 Hp/ 16 Atk/ 252 SpDef
-Pursuit
-Bullet Punch
-Uturn
-Brick Break

The real star of the team, at least it was supposed to be when I created this team, to smash a certain's someone's screens in half. This is also my Steel/Ice resist, as it is 4hkoed by Scarf Palkia's Spacial Rend, but its more likely to be a 3HKO with my own Life Orb kicking in.

This can also trap Flamethrowerless Blisseys, Pursuit and Brick Break. Uturn is to create free switchins for my teammates, and most of the time is my first choice seeing how lots of things can switch into Scizor and it would be disastrous, like Kyogre, Rayquaza, Dialga/Palkia that arnt Scarf and dont have to switch, and of course, Groudon.

Of course, I've met several Blisseys that do have Flamethrower, and as such are very hard to handle. Im thinking of replacing Scizor with Metagross, whose Bulkier, but has a weaker Bullet Punch and cant Uturn out, which is very useful. So some advice here would be needed.

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@ Life Orb

Naive
4 Atk/ 252 Speed/ 252 SpAtk
-Draco Meteor
-ExtremeSpeed
-OverHeat
-Outrage

The premier physical sweeper in Ubers, Dragon Dance Rayquaza has seen an increase in usage due to Scarf Dialgas running around, which stop Swords Dance Rayquaza in its tracks. EQ for the said Dialga, Xspeed to revenge things before I set up, and Outrage to sweep. Should the other team not have a Skarmory/Forestress switchin, or worse, Shedinja, this can run through teams until its met by ScarfPalkia. At which point I could switch out to Scizor, or Xspeed and sign off.

Against good players, I have an extremely hard time getting the Dragon Dance off, so im thinking of using Life Orb MixQuaza, or ax it altogether for something else, like Palkia to ease switch ins into Kyogre

The Uber Threat List:

Wobbuffet:….
Mewtwo: Unpredicatble, nothing on my team can switch into a Life Orb with 4 Attacks, but I can revenge with just about every member of my team except Groudon.
Mew: Baton Passing Mew with Rock Polish cannot be stopped, so lets try not to use it people…
Groudon: My own Groudon, If it has Rock Polish, let whatever in die, then Revenge with Darkrai Ice Beam. Swords Dance variants get Grass Knotted by Mewtwo.
Kyogre: Nothing on my team can switch into Kyogre, so my only hope is to always Uturn with Scizor, or Sack Groudon for sunlight and beat it with Dialga/Mewtwo. Always a big pain to deal with, although Rayquaza handles Scarf Variants nicely.
Rayquaza: Groudon should beat both DD and SDRay, TWave and Dragon Claw it, or if its paralyzed, kill with Dialga/Mewtwo. If Groudon is unavaliable, or at low health, then I sack Groudon to force it into Outrage, then Ice Beam with Scarf Darkrai. Dialga for SD Variants, this is actually not too big of an issue with my team.
DeoxysA: Hopefully I have SR up, then Dialga/Scizor and Rayquaza can revenge it.
Ho-oh: SR halves its HP, but its actually a big threat to my team since my weather of choice is Sunlight. Nothing on my team can switch into Sunlight Sacred Fire, so Id just have to Sack Groudon again and Meteor with Dialga. Man it sounds like I dont care about Groudon, doesnt it?
Lugia: Darkrai, although I might have to go Modest to 2HKO with Dark Pulse. Or I could put it to sleep, then Mewtwo Ice Beams it.
Celebi: Annoying, but can be beaten easily with Patience
Jirachi: Groudon EQ, Rayquaza EQ, Dialga Fire Blast, Mewtwo Fire Blast.
Dialga: Groudon for BU Dialga, my own Scarf Dialga to beat it, Scizor to switch into Draco Meteor/Dragon Pulse. Rayquaza for Scarf Dialga, Mewtwo Aura Sphere and Rayquaza EQ for Specs/Adamant Orb Dialga.
Palkia: Very hard to deal with, perhaps TWave with Groudon, since I can take 2 Rends off of 399 SpAtk. Scizor can come in on Scarf Palkia's Rends/Meteors
If it has Lustrous Orb or Specs, Dialga outspeeds and KOs with Pulse.
Latias/ Latios: Very hard to deal with if it gets a CM, so Darkrai can put it to sleep or Pulse it, Dialga can Meteor it, Scizor manhandles those without HP Fire.
Darkrai: Let whatever in take the sleep, switch out to Scizor/Dialga to take the Pulse. Mewtwo can revenge it with Aura Sphere
Giratina Land Form: Dialga Meteor, Darkrai Pulse(again, I need Modest to have a chance of 2HKOing)
Giratina Origin Form: MixTinaO is a huge threat, Id have to sack Groudon, then Meteor with Dialga, Pulse with Darkrai. If it is a CM Variant, Rayquaza always outspeeds and Outrages.
Blissey: Groudon, Scizor, last resort Outrage with Rayquaza.
Metagross: Groudon, Dialga Fire Blast.
Tyranitar: Groudon, Scizor Bullet Punch, Mewtwo Aura Sphere
Scizor: Groudon, Dialga and Mewtwo can Fire Blast it. Dialga also resists Bullet Punch.
Skarmory: Dialga Fire Blast/Thunder, Mewtwo Fire Blast/Aura Sphere
Forresstress: Mewtwo/Dialga Fire Blast
Bronzong: Mewtwo/Dialga Fire Blast
Heracross: Groudon switches it, Revenge with Dialga
Garchomp: Groudon can take it on, although if its Banded Groudon goes down, but at least I know I can outspeed with Mewtwo/Dialga, and of course, Ice Beam Darkrai.
Manaphy: Groudon to change weather, Rayquaza to negate weather, but none of the 2 can switch in. Probably bring on Sunlight with Groudon, then Meteor with Dialga/ Aura Sphere with Mewtwo.
Heatran: Actually a big deal to my team, because like Ho-oh, Heatran can abuse Sunlight. If its stuck on a Fire Move, Rayquaza can take the oppurtunity to DD.

Biggest Threats:
1. Any Fire move user, esp when I bring on the Sun. Usually I would be the only one to abuse the Sun, as most other teams abuse Rain, but you never know.
2. Scarf Palkia
3. Sash DeoA, if SR isnt up immediately
4. Life Orb Mewtwo with 4 Attacks

One last thing, this team can beat most other Offensive teams head on, but it has troubles with well designed Stall Teams, the ones that Include Lugia/Blissey and stuff like that.

A Stall Breaker would be nice, so any suggestions?
 
You seem to know your team well. Most of what I was going to say is already mentioned in your problems list. However, I want to say something that you might or might not have realized: the reason why you have trouble with stall teams is that your entire team except groudon's leftovers cannot regain any hp at all. Teams like this one isn't necessarily bad, it just requires constantly perfect predictions and advanced strategies or else your team will deteriorate quickly.

Anyways, now that I'm done squabbling, to help your stall problems...

I want to say you can take one thing out and replace it with some wisher or sp. wall, but at this moment I can't think of anything that can do that role and manage against sleeptalk kyogres at the same time. So, as much as I hate changing the type of the team you have, I believe you need to kick 2 things out. If you don't want to, at least get rid of rayquaza and put in either a team healer or something to fight kyogres.

Other than that, this team is pretty solid.

Edit: wtf I never hit a rating that high before on the leaderboard 0.0
 
I shall help you even though you got me banned on Shoddy.

First off I was looking at Scizor and noticed that you use such a bulky EV spread but you have no Roost. Why is that? What exactly is Brick Break going to do. Sure perfect coverage is great in Ubers, but all Brick Break is going to hit is Dialga and Darkrai. The latter takes alot more damage from U-Turn while the former can shrug off any move you throw at it and KO with a fire move. You also mention that he is 4HKO'd by Palkia's Spacial Rend. However wouldn't you prefer being able to Roost off the damage so that you can continue to switch in on her? For the reasons mentioned above you NEED Roost.

I would also consider using Latias over Rayquaza. I say this because once Groudon dies a Calm Mind Kyogre or Manaphy will have alot of fun with this team, and probobly sweep you with some good predicting. You could run a standard Latias but I would consider one with Wish to help out Dialga or one with Substitute which allows it to beat Blissey 99% of the time with prediction.
 
Um this team isn't really working together imo.

You have Thunder on Dialga yet you have Groudon which makes Thunder 50% accurate. Then with Groudon you are letting yourself be Mewtwo weak since all types of Fire Attacks will take out Scizor now.

RestTalk Ogre>Groudon.

If you want SR you can just give it to Dialga and make it a supporter.

Just my two cents.
 
You must be Ramon Sessions. Congrats on getting #1. This team seems rather suited to the current environment, though I'm starting to wonder if we're on the verge of seeing more Trick users in Ubers. Also, does Focus Blast 1HKO Dialga?

And off-topic, why were you upset at Darknessmalice? Is he a real douche to you or something?

On the Laptop now, still in the car on the way :(. Probably my last update until after the weekend as I will be busy.

Trick Users could help against Stall, or perhaps do you suppose they could ruin some other sort of strategy, like, idunno, BP Mew?
And i dont feel any sort of animosity towards Darknessmalice, it was someone else before him...

P.S. for ur information, Timid Focus Blast has a shot at KOing Dialga if it does Max Damage, after SR. Modest Darkrai is better off, with about a 50% chance of KOing Dialga after SR. This is assuming Dialga is 4HP/0SpDef

Which is also why Im considering going Modest.

You let me to understand that Groudon is there just for being? and you say that your Sun Light causes you a problem? Rain dance also helsp scizor a little bit cos it weakens power of fire attacks and maybe (note: MAYBE)

Sunlight only cause me a problem if the other user is smart enough to incorporate a few Fire Attacks on his team, like Sovereign did. Otherwise, besides the Scizor point(which btw, Scizor still dies to Dialga/Mewtwo Fire Blast under the Rain. It can survive Flamethrower/HP Fire, but who uses that!?!], Sunlight is beneficial because it weakens Kyogre/Palkia's Surf, forcing them to Ice Beam/Rend, both of which Scizor can take.


I shall help you even though you got me banned on Shoddy.

First off I was looking at Scizor and noticed that you use such a bulky EV spread but you have no Roost. Why is that? What exactly is Brick Break going to do. For the reasons mentioned above you NEED Roost.

I would also consider using Latias over Rayquaza. I say this because once Groudon dies a Calm Mind Kyogre or Manaphy will have alot of fun with this team, and probobly sweep you with some good predicting.

Dunno how I got you banned again, perhaps it was that monstrous accident rating you achieved?

Anyways, I thought I made it clear Brick Break was to smash Light Screen/Reflect, both of which are a Staple to a certain someone's team.

2nd, If I stay in to Roost while Palkia flees to something like Groudon/Kyogre, well then I'll be a sitting Duck, wouldnt I? Nothing on my team is switching into Kyogre Water Spouts, which is why I always U-Turn when it looks like the opponent is about to switch. Pursuit is probably the least needed move, but it lets me trap Latias so she'll stay in to a Uturn or Bullet Punch.

3rd. Yes, it is true that CMers give me alot of problems. But usually, its the CM Resttalking one, with only Surf. Then Rayquaza should be able to force it to switch out or just Outrage it. If its the CMer with 3 attacks, then Im already done for, so the plan is to not let it set up. Like it cant eat 2 Mewtwo Grass Knots, Dialga's Thunder is a bit more shaky. If it comes in on Groudon, Id just let Groudon die and EQ it, either forcing it to Rest, or taking some damage where a Rayquaza Outrage can KO it.

You seem to know your team well. Most of what I was going to say is already mentioned in your problems list. However, I want to say something that you might or might not have realized: the reason why you have trouble with stall teams is that your entire team except groudon's leftovers cannot regain any hp at all. Teams like this one isn't necessarily bad, it just requires constantly perfect predictions and advanced strategies or else your team will deteriorate quickly.

Anyways, now that I'm done squabbling, to help your stall problems...

I want to say you can take one thing out and replace it with some wisher or sp. wall, but at this moment I can't think of anything that can do that role and manage against sleeptalk kyogres at the same time. So, as much as I hate changing the type of the team you have, I believe you need to kick 2 things out. If you don't want to, at least get rid of rayquaza and put in either a team healer or something to fight kyogres.

Other than that, this team is pretty solid.

Edit: wtf I never hit a rating that high before on the leaderboard 0.

Always nice to see an old timer respond. I wonder if you're still active?
And yes, Im aware of the fact that my team lacks recovery, but like I mentioned, I prefer to play a more offensive style, and I feel that this is one of the better offensive teams out there.

About Stall Teams, It does require perfect prediction, but even then, Lugia/Bliss is very hard to beat. Throw in some Giratinas, Roosting Latias, and Forresstress and you'll have yourself a 4 hour long match.

Without changing the offensive theme of the team, It is very hard to beat stall unless I use some Mixed attacker like Rayquaza, or build an antistall team. Since I'm too lazy to do the latter, MixQuaza seems like a possibility.

Concerning ur suggestion for a Sp Wall, well Blissey is as fine as they come, but I recall you saying Blissey is just set up bait in Ubers. Latias seems more potent, but like you said, it could just create another hole. Rayquaza seems to be the most dispensable, but it also has the ability to run through entire teams. However, most teams have adjusted to Rayquaza, like my own, so that he might not be so essential after all.

In conclusion, the best I could think of is to Kick Scizor and Rayquaza/Mewtwo

Add Wishing Jirachi with Uturn, (as Latias/Blissey could leave me hanging) and add Latias to combat Kyogre. However, losing Scizor/Rayquaza sort of makes my team lacking a physical attacker, as Groudon is mainly for support, which could make Blissey even tougher to deal with.
 
have you tried trick scarfkrai? it could help with your stall problem, anyways if your worried about dualscreen+rock polish mew you could always replace aura sphere on mewtwo for brick break, it helps with dealing with blissey and I have had a lot of success with it in the past. this of course will allow you to have roost on scizor which i feel is absolutely necessary in ubers
 
have you tried trick scarfkrai? it could help with your stall problem, anyways if your worried about dualscreen+rock polish mew you could always replace aura sphere on mewtwo for brick break, it helps with dealing with blissey and I have had a lot of success with it in the past. this of course will allow you to have roost on scizor which i feel is absolutely necessary in ubers

back from vacation/school

surprised to see only one response since my last update, but at least it was from a well informed person!

Anyways, in response to your suggestions GuyLaroche, I have tried Trick ScarfRai. The problems I had with it were:

1. After I trick the Scarf, Im basically useless to my team, because Dark Pulse by itself can't do anything and stuff like Mewtwo, Deoxys and Scarf Dialga/Palkia can outspeed me. Also, I lose my main DDRayquaza revenger killer.

2. With Trick occupying a moveslot, I just didnt have enough coverage. Dark Void and Dark Pulse were fairly mandatory, but with Trick instead of Focus Blast/Ice Beam, means I lose to Scarf Dialga, and Rayquaza/Groudon respectively.

This is why offensive teams without recovery, like Sovereign said, have problems with Stall teams. You pretty much have to go AntiStall, because you can't focus on beating stall and other offensive teams at the same time.

Also, I shouldnt even HAVE to worry about Baton Pass Mew with Dual Screens, as mentioned somewhere by Tay, because its somewhat lacking in skill. But for the sake of having Brick Break, Mewtwo can't be the user and just Axe Aura Sphere because it would require I run Naive/Hasty, lowering my respectable defenses(Mewtwo can survive Groudon's Life Orb EQ.) It also means I can't beat Dialga/Darkrai, because Brick Break fails to have a chance at KOing either.

Roost on Scizor, as I've already explained, is pretty dumb in Ubers. No sensible Scarf Dialga/Palkia user is going to stay in with you Dragon Pulse/Rending you, so they would switch out to something that can take on Scizor, like Groudon, Kyogre, or even bring back the same Dialga/Palkia to Fire Blast/Surf you. If I stay in to Roost as they switch to something like Specs Kyogre, that would put me on the defensive immediately, whereas if I Uturn, I can still maintain control over the game somewhat.
 
Spacial rend>ice beam on darkrai. spacial rend lets you hit both scarf palkia and rayquaza super effective.
 
Hmm...

Roost on Scizor, as I've already explained, is pretty dumb in Ubers. No sensible Scarf Dialga/Palkia user is going to stay in with you Dragon Pulse/Rending you, so they would switch out to something that can take on Scizor, like Groudon, Kyogre, or even bring back the same Dialga/Palkia to Fire Blast/Surf you. If I stay in to Roost as they switch to something like Specs Kyogre, that would put me on the defensive immediately, whereas if I Uturn, I can still maintain control over the game somewhat.
Okay he can switch in....once. And then that's it. The next time they come in Scizor's going to pretty much die and you've got no one else to swap into Dragon moves.

Your argument that Specs Kyogre can come in is rather blunt. Okay, you don't have to remove U-turn for Roost. However, I could easily say Specs Kyogre can come in on your Pursuit and then put you in the defensive. As a matter of fact Ogre can come in on Bullet Punch/Brick Break too.

The biggest common weakness to this team, in my opinion, is Blissey. Toxic Blissey, to be more specific. You're forced to swap Scizor in, and Scizor can only take a few Tosses with no recovery, whereas sending Groudon will get it Toxiced and you probably don't want to send in Rayquaza just yet.

Which reminds me. The ancient Skarmbliss will run over this team as they wall every single member of your team. Or, stall teams in general. Lugia walls just about everything in your team.

A few things I have to say but can't necessarily give advice to cover them, because that would change team layout. You've probably said these before but I guess I can clarify some stuff.

- Specs ogre, if successfully brought in, will destroy each of your team members one by one. Water Spout will be very devastating and can nearly OHKO Dialga.

- Calm Mind Giratina will force you to send Rayquaza out or die. Dialga isn't strong enough to cover it and neither can Darkrai. I'm specifically talking about Rest/Talk Giratina, who can strike during its sleep and gain more stats/kill something

Actually when I think about it Latias covers these two. What is to be thrown can be hard, though. Tossing out Rayquaza or Dialga works-imo tossing Dialga will be better as you've got BP on Scizor, ES on Rayquaza, and ScarfDarkrai. This leaves you a bit open to SDRay, though, but the only thing it's setting up on is Scarf Focus Blast from Darkrai. Groudon can take him down, but you need at least 403 HP and 348 Defense to survive a Jolly LO SDed Waterfall from Ray, so keep that in mind. Rayquaza serves as another physical attacker and has a great sweeping ability, so I'm not sure if you should remove him.

It is possible to make Latias wall 4 Attack Life Orb Mewtwo, but that means sacrificing Speed for more Special Defense. Because most Palkias are Scarfed nowadays, dropping Speed could work in favor of Special Defense.

252 HP / 248 Spd / 10 SAtk Calm ensures that Ice Beam won't 2HKO while still outrunning SDRay. Beware of Stealth Rock as it can mess up the calc...so be sure to predict correctly. If you wish, you can run max HP and 356 SDef, and hope that Rayquaza won't notice your slowness and will use Extreme Speed instead, which doesn't OHKO almost all the time even after SR. Im not quite sure if you want to go by these, though, but I'm merely throwing them out there.
 
Hmm...

Okay he can switch in....once. And then that's it. The next time they come in Scizor's going to pretty much die and you've got no one else to swap into Dragon moves.

Your argument that Specs Kyogre can come in is rather blunt. Okay, you don't have to remove U-turn for Roost. However, I could easily say Specs Kyogre can come in on your Pursuit and then put you in the defensive. As a matter of fact Ogre can come in on Bullet Punch/Brick Break too.

The biggest common weakness to this team, in my opinion, is Blissey. Toxic Blissey, to be more specific. You're forced to swap Scizor in, and Scizor can only take a few Tosses with no recovery, whereas sending Groudon will get it Toxiced and you probably don't want to send in Rayquaza just yet.

A few things I have to say but can't necessarily give advice to cover them, because that would change team layout. You've probably said these before but I guess I can clarify some stuff.

- Specs ogre, if successfully brought in, will destroy each of your team members one by one. Water Spout will be very devastating and can nearly OHKO Dialga.

- Calm Mind Giratina will force you to send Rayquaza out or die. Dialga isn't strong enough to cover it and neither can Darkrai. I'm specifically talking about Rest/Talk Giratina, who can strike during its sleep and gain more stats/kill something

Actually when I think about it Latias covers these two. What is to be thrown can be hard, though. Tossing out Rayquaza or Dialga works-imo tossing Dialga will be better as you've got BP on Scizor, ES on Rayquaza, and ScarfDarkrai. This leaves you a bit open to SDRay, though, but the only thing it's setting up on is Scarf Focus Blast from Darkrai. Groudon can take him down, but you need at least 403 HP and 348 Defense to survive a Jolly LO SDed Waterfall from Ray, so keep that in mind. Rayquaza serves as another physical attacker and has a great sweeping ability, so I'm not sure if you should remove him.

It is possible to make Latias wall 4 Attack Life Orb Mewtwo, but that means sacrificing Speed for more Special Defense. Because most Palkias are Scarfed nowadays, dropping Speed could work in favor of Special Defense.

252 HP / 248 Spd / 10 SAtk Calm ensures that Ice Beam won't 2HKO while still outrunning SDRay. Beware of Stealth Rock as it can mess up the calc...so be sure to predict correctly. If you wish, you can run max HP and 356 SDef, and hope that Rayquaza won't notice your slowness and will use Extreme Speed instead, which doesn't OHKO almost all the time even after SR. Im not quite sure if you want to go by these, though, but I'm merely throwing them out there.

Thats alot of suggestions Jibs, I'll look over them
A few things before I go running off again:

yes, Kyogre can switch in on Scizor with ease. Which is why I said I almost always Uturn no matter what, even against a Dialga stuck on Dragon Pulse. The other attacks dont come into play until its apparent Latias will switch, there are screens up, or I can finish them off with a Bullet Punch if they're likely to attack.

Blissey is by FAR the biggest annoyance to this team, but there are a few changes im willing to make to take care of that. One of them is Focus Punch on Darkrai, or perhaps changing Rayquaza to MixQuaza, because Im getting very few chances to get the Dragon Dance off anyway, and then I'd be met by ScarfPalkia.

I thought Scizor/Groudon can take care of Blissey, but apparently not. What are y'all's suggestions anyway, Id look into them.

2. Specs Kyogre is a huge problem, but usually I can just sack Groudon and beat it with speed, like Mewtwo/Dialga/Rayquaza

3. You're telling me that Latias can come in on boosted Giratina Dragon Pulses and scare it off/beat it? Or CM alongside it?
Instead of adding Latias, what about making Dialga Hasty, some Atk EVs, and add Outrage to take care of CMers that try to get cute?
 
3. You're telling me that Latias can come in on boosted Giratina Dragon Pulses and scare it off/beat it? Or CM alongside it?
Unless you're Giratina-O, Latias takes <50% from Modest 252 SA Giratina's unboosted Dragon Pulse with no SDef EVs. So yeah like the case with Kyogre's Ice Beam it can CM alongside it.
 
I dont think Giratina-A ever goes 252 SA Modest lol.

So to help deal with CMers, in particular Latias, I decided to go Hasty on Dialga, which may hinder its ability to take on SDRay?

And I've gone with 3 Dragon moves, Dragon Pulse for consistent damage/late game, Draco Meteor for sheer power, and Outrage for CMers

Was that so wise?


Also, to help break stall, I realized I had two options. Add Specs Kyogre, but since I dont like Choiced Pokemon that arent Scarfed, I decided to go with teh second option: Use Life Orb MixRayquaza

DDQuaza was a huge threat, but since I dont have any way to incorporate SpecsKyogre into the team, this will have to do.

Changes are in Bold in the OP
 
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