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i couldn't make my 4th gen rain dance team, so i decided to make a team for 5th gen. this is my unconventional rain dance team:

politoed @leftovers
-ability- drizzle
modest
252 hp/ 252 s. attack/ 4 s. defence
hydro pump
focus blast(hp grass 70?)
ice beam
perish song

a 3 attack politoed lead. hydro pump for amazing power + 2x STAB. ice beam for drag counters and hits grass types. focus blast to win weather war against tyranitar, plus hits ferrothorn;could replace with hp grass for rotom-w and gastrodon. perish song to destroy baton pass teams and set-up pokemon like calm mind rachi. plus, politoed can come in mid-late game and put da hurt on.

ferrothorn @rocky helmet
-ability- iron barbs
relaxed
(0 speed ivs)
252 hp/ 88 defence/ 168 s. defence
spikes
stealth rock
power whip
gyro ball

i chose rocky helmet over leftovers because i already had 2 lefties users, plus rocky helmet and iron barbs deals about 18 percent( i think, can't check) damage to physical moves. anyway, moving on. power whip for bulky waters like vappy, milotic, swampert, and gastrodon. spikes and stealth rock are standard on ferrothorn, this time to help out galvantula. finally, im torn between gyro ball and t-wave. i feel like t-wave would be most useful, to help set-up for galvantula and toxicroak.if i used t-wave, i wouldn't need 0 speed ivs. gyro ball gives me another attacking move though. need some help on this one too.

EDIT: changed from rotom-w to gliscor

gliscor @toxic orb
-ability- poison heal
-impish
252 hp/ 184 defence/72 speed
swords dance
taunt
earthquake
facade

why would i put this pokemon on a rain dance team? simple: thunder and gyara. he makes a great partner for gyara in the rain. he'll switch in, say on choice specs jolteon, andnwreak havoc with sd and facade/eq. earthquake to hit electrics and terrakion, facade to hit harder than a supereffective ice fang. taunt so opponent cant set up and sweep, and swords dance for obvious reasons.

toxicroak @life orb
-ability- dry skin
4 hp/ 252 attack/ 252 speed
sucker punch
ice punch
swords dance
cross chop

wouldve put drain punch over cross chop, but ice punch and drain punch together are illegal:..(.. ice punch to take out grass, drags, and zapdos. cross chop for STAB and extra coverage on my team, mainly ferrothorn and tyranitar. swords dance to set up, and, finally, sucker punch for priority and psychic types, like espeon. standard toxicroak found on smogon, guys.

EDIT: changed from galvantula to gyarados

gyarados @life orb
-ability-intimidate
-adamant
252 attack/4 defence/252 speed
dragon dance
bounce
stone edge
waterfall

at first, i would've never hav considered gyara, as thunder was present. but then someone(dragon tongue) suggested gliscor on my team to care of electrics that were giving me trouble. he also suggested gyara, and i have to say i'm pleased with the results. first, he switches on something useless, like ferrothorn. then he rips off dd after dd. 3rd step: proceed to sweep. not much can stand up to +1 gyara, let alone +3. stone edge, after +3, ohkos dragonite, even through multiscale. his waterfall is his best-seller though. that thing is devastating in rain. bounce is to take care of fighters, like breloom and virizion, who can come in on any of his moves, pre-dd.

EDIT: changed from jellicent to latias

latias @leftovers
-ability- levitate
-timid
252 hp/4 s. attack/252 speed
recover
dragon pulse
calm mind
substitute

my only drag, mainly a wall for my biggest threats. im thinking of maybe switching sub with psychic to hit breloom and terrakion bettet, and to get lucario. moves are the standard latias tank set. substitute and calm mind to set-up, recover to heal, and dragon pulse to hit hard after you're done.

changes i might want: substitute -->thunder or psychic.
 
Shadow Ball is redundant on Rotom W. You say its for Jellicent, but Jellicent still gets hit harder by Thunder anyways. Try Volt Switch or Hidden Power Grass instead.

Galvantula is going to need another ability. Unnerve does nothing for Galvantula, seeing as very rarely do opponents use Berries, and they're usually something like Lum Berries, which Galvantula will have a hard time activating anyways. I'm not sure if Swarm is released or not, but that would be your best shot, powering up Bug Buzz. However, if it isn't released, compoundeyes will be your best bet at hitting anything with Thunder if another weather is up, as well as making it easier to hit random Sand Veil/Snow Cloak 'mons.

Finally, Spikes and Stealth Rock are not legal on the same set on Ferrothorn. I reccomend switching one out for Leech Seed, so Ferrothorn will have some way to reccover health.
 
Finally, Spikes and Stealth Rock are not legal on the same set on Ferrothorn. I reccomend switching one out for Leech Seed, so Ferrothorn will have some way to reccover health.
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you're wrong there - Spikes and SR are legal together, just not legal together alongside Leech Seed. Also, HP Ice is another option for Rotom-W for dragonslaying, although I'd go with HP Grass for Gastrodon.
 
i still hav some things that need solving:

gyro ball or t-wave on ferrothorn?

water absorb or cursed body on jellicent?

hidden power grass or focus blast on politoed?

is the team good member-wise? do i need to change some members up?

are the ev spreads good for countering 5th gen?

also, i did factor in sand veil/snow cloak, but oftentimes, the first pokemon is a weather starter, if it is a weather team( if the team uses those abilities, 9 times out of ten, it is)and politoed is designed to win the weather war. i wouldn't be switching galvantula into other weather anyway. plus, berries, mostly those elemental berries, are still common. if not life orb, landorus sometimes carries yache berry. unnerve is mostly used for hp ice, on gliscor/drags/landorus on the chance of yache berry.
 
I'd suggest that you use Cursed Body above Water Absorb on Jellicent because although Water Absorb is better on a non-rain team, you're not exactly lacking in water resists for this team. Cursed Body is situational, but it might be the crucial thing that turns the tides of a game - for example Disabling a Specially Defensive standard Mixtar's Crunch could be the difference between a dead Jeliicent and a dead opposing weather inducer.

For Politoed, I'd go with Focus Blast, because you have other stuff that can hit Waters SE, and you can simply switch to them. Also, Focus Blast hits the biggest pain in the ass to a lot of rain teams, Ferrothorn, for super effective damage.
 
I've always preferred Gyro Ball because of the suprisingly high amount of damage that it does, and your Thunder users are already going to be spreading Paralysis to a certain extent around the foe's team. Although my view is slightly subjective - I have no real major stance on this one.
 
the thing that worries me the most though, is that i don't know how the ev spreads will do against threats, like cm virizion. i don't hav access to any battle simulators, and im new to 5th gen metagame. idk how different it is to 4th gen. the only thing i know is the boost in attacking pokemon.
 
not yet. i wanted to get some feedback from other players as to major flaws first, then tweak tiny adjustments

if you know anyone who likes testing teams, hook me up, as i am unable to get any battle simulators on my shitty computer
 
16. Play with your team before putting it up for rate. We as a community cannot emphasize this enough. No one wants to rate the team that you freshly created while eating breakfast or the gimmick you randomly put together. We as a community want teams that have been battle tested so that the obvious flaws have been hammered out.

This is particularly because just by playing with a team, you yourself can figure out what is wrong with your team
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this
 
sorry. do you know anyone who tests teams? everytime i try to download PO, shoddy battle, etc., i get my internet closed. shoddy battle just says that it is unable to load. i apologize if i broke a rule, didn't mean for it to happen:(
 
ok, ive been playing around on PO, and found some major threats: any form of special wall. one in particular was a snorlax using outrage? once toxicroak is out, i hav trouble winning. plus, i dont seem to get up sr nearly as much as i think i should. maybe im not playing right? anyway, i also hav a problem with other politoed, especially defensive stall who use toxic, and other rotom-w. how can u help me?

plus electric types, mainly electivire and jolteon
 
Perhaps you are having trouble with special walls becuase only one of your pokemon is a physicall sweeper. i dont know much about rain teams but maybe a gyarados would help for the physicall side of attacking things
 
You should make your RMT prettier. One, add sprites. They allow for people like me (who don't like to read long things) to make type analyses and tell you what needs to be changed to achieve synergy. Next, try to use correct capitalization, spelling, and punctuation. That makes it easier on the person reading, allowing for more time thinking about how to help you versus the time that he/she is currently spending figuring out what you just said.
Now, on to the team.

I really like this. First of all, Water Absorb over Cursed Body on Jellicent. This makes it easier to recover health and wall Politoeds like your own. Gyro Ball on Ferrothorn, so that you aren't completely walled by Gliscor. Defensive Stall Politoed with Toxic is meh. Just switch in Ferrothorn for a free turn. Same with Rotom-W. Electric types are walled by Ferrothorn as well. Go with Energy Ball on Galvantula, it'll take care of Gastrodon and other Rain shtuff. If you need any more help, challenge me and I'll do a full diagnosis/analysis. [Brotherhood]Zero
 
yeah, sorry about the sprite thing. my computer sucks ass and wonr let me transfer over. yes, i have tried pe2k. thx for the full-on rate. but electivire is wuts killing me. ferrothorn is 2hkod by cross chop, and i cant harm it.
also, new threat: a fucking scrafty... sucks if used as a lead...
also, lucario plus t-punch, and salamence plus t-fang
 
ThunderPunch and Thunder Fang are pretty gimmicky. You might be playing in a really low tier, in which case, try to get out of that gimmicky tier. Go on Pokemon Online on the Smogon server as soon as you can. I'll watch this post to see what your username is, and I'll watch you play a few games and give you a full analysis.
 
im playing ou tier, and it was only a one time thing. do u want to battle me? im on right now.
 
First of all, Water Absorb over Cursed Body on Jellicent. This makes it easier to recover health and wall Politoeds like your own
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I have to say I disagree here. Everything elso on the team either resists or absorbs water except for Galvantula. Jellicent already resists water itsself. Cursed Body, however, as I said earlier, can mean the difference between a win and a loss late-game if the key move is disabled. As you said, it's great for being a troll.
 
ok. scrafty turns out to b a major threat. solutions???especially bulk up and dd versions
terrakion is found to be a threat. hes ok if i can switch jellicent in on him as he'll stone edge me, resulting in disability, then switching himself
 
^^^ ive tried pe2k, didnt work. my computer sucks.
btw, mu username is also minime1164
 
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