The Black Hole (Peaked #21)

Hey Guys I am Masters Chaos and today i m going to RMT my Ubres HO team. I made this team a while ago and it worked really good for me, so i thought why not RMT it. So here i am lol. I got #21 ranking with it, i would've reached #1 but i was getting haxed in every single match -_-

Anyways lets take a look at my team.

Peak:
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Team at a Glance:
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Team Building Process:

I wanted to make a HO team so Deoxys-S was the best choice so i selected Deo-s as my first Pokemon.

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Second I needed a spin blocker so Giratina-O was the best choice for it. I tried Arceus-ghost for some time but it didn't worked.

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3rd i needed a sweeper. The choice was between Rayquaza and Arceus so i went for Rayquaza because of its bulk and lack of SR weakness.

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I needed something to counter Arceus which otherwise can sweep teams in a blink of eye. I also needed to counter Darkrai and i needed a Revenge killer too so i selected Terrakion :3

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Ofcourse i needed a special sweeper so i selected Mewtwo. The original GOD of Pokemons.

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I originally had Rayquaza in last spot but it wast working. And lugia was making my team PUKE. So i changed it for Specs Kyurem W. With it i can also switch into Kyogre with ease.


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In-Depth Analysis:

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Slender Man (Deoxys-Speed) @ Focus Sash
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 148 HP / 252 Spd / 108 Atk
Jolly Nature
- Spikes
- Taunt
- Stealth Rock
- Fire Punch

My first Pokemon is Deoxys-S. It can always set up a layer of spikes and SR. It also out speed all the pokemons, thanks to 180 base speed. and it can stop other pokemons from setting up. However the thing i like about it is it outspeed alot of scarf pokemons, which is very good since i can setup hazards. EVs are bit odd. I am running 108 Atk EVs so that i can kill those Scarfed-Genesect who thinks they can U turn to Espeon or any other thing. Putting a seriuos pressure on opponent. With 108 Atk EVs i can always OHKO Gene and 2HKO both ferrothorn and foretress. Max speed EVs (Ofc -_-) and remaning EVs are dumped in Hp to make it a bit bulky.


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Red Bull (Terrakion) @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Justified
EVs: 208 Spd / 252 Atk / 48 HP
Jolly Nature
- Close Combat
- Stone Edge
- Sleep Talk
- X-Scissor

Terrakion. This thing is awesome. Can check threats like Drakrai and Arceus (Normal,Dark,Rock,Steel) with ease. Moves are kinda self explanatory. CC and SE are STAB moves. I have sleep talk so i can come in Darkrai with ease and can take any move it can throw. And Sleep Talk has 66.8% chance to choose super effective move. X-Scizzor is for mewtwo. Earthquake doesn't work for me. EVs are simple. Max Attack and with 208 speed it hits 336 Speed which are enough to outrun Base 101 scarfed pokes. Rest of the EVs are Dumped in HP. It can even sweep late game when opps team is weakened and there is no ghost type with its deadly Close Combat.

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Sky Fall (Arceus) @ Lum Berry
Trait: Multitype
EVs: 196 HP / 252 Atk / 56 Spd / 4 SDef
Adamant Nature
- ExtremeSpeed
- Shadow Claw
- Swords Dance
- Recover

Ah! Arceus. The GOD pokemon. The pokemon that can sweep teams in a blink of eye. Arceus is The Star of my team. After a SD or two nothing can stand in my way. I am using Bulky Arceus. SD ES and Shadow Claw are obvious though i need to eliminate steel types first to
sweep with it i am running recover > EQ/Brick Break becuse i can recover back health and this set has work wonders for me. This also allows me to setup SD's with ease. Lum Berry allows me to sponge at least 1 Will-O-Wisp. With 196 Hp EVs i hit 430 Hp which is enough to survive attacks and along with Arceus can be a hard to take down. Max Atk and 56 Spd EVs so i can ES Rayquaza first and i put 4 EVs in Spd. Idk why i did that lol

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Wait&Bleed (Giratina-Origin) @ Griseous Orb
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 252 Atk / 148 HP / 88 Spd / 20 Def
Adamant Nature
- Substitute
- Dragon Tail
- Shadow Sneak
- Earthquake

Since it is a HO team and i love my Hazards so i needed something to protect them from those rapid spinners. So i went for Gira-O. I am using Sub + 3 Atks. With D tail i can fuck those who tries to setup on me it is a stab move too. and Shadow Sneak is a priority and Stab move. While Earthquake allows me to hit those who resist D tail/ Shadow Sneak. Max Atk EVs cuz i needed power. 148 Hp evs allows it to live +2 Excadrill Shadow Claw and it can KO back it with EQ. 88 Spd evs allows it to outspeed some common pokes. It also out speed bulky Gir/Gir-O who does'nt run Spd EV's. and Rest of the EVs are Dumped in Defense. With Adamant nature it hits 372 Atk which is pretty sexy lol.


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Strike Down (Mewtwo) @ Life Orb
Trait: Pressure
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Timid Nature
- Psystrike
- Ice Beam
- Aura Sphere
- Grass Knot

Mewtwo is also a core of my team. The original GOD of pokemons has elite speed, good bulk and huge special attack. Mewtwo is a beast with a life orb equipped it can sweep weakened teams. Moves are standard Psystrike hits Ho-oh,Kyogre on their weak Defenses and is a Stab move. Ice beam along with Aura Sphere provide good coverage. And it hits those pesky Dragons too. Aura Sphere hits steel types who resist Psystrike and Ice Beam. And Grass Knot can OHKO groudon and hits Arceus (Ground,water) for high damage. EVs are extremely simple Max Atk and Spd timid nature so i hit max spd.

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Blood Lust (Kyurem-White) @ Choice Specs
Trait: Turboblaze
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Timid Nature
- Draco Meteor
- Fusion Flare
- Focus Blast
- Ice Beam

Kyurem-W. With 170 base SpA it can scare the shit outta pokemons. Lugia really fucks my team but when He face this Frozen Dragon then he usually shits in his pants. With Turboblaze negating Multiscale it can OHKOLugia with ease. With a choice Specs it hits 729 Spa I dont think i need to say more. This thing can OHKO/2HKO the entire metagame. I am running Timid nature because it can out speed kyogre (Non scarfed) and groudon. EVs once again are simple.

Replays:

Against Spartan Goku (A highly skilled player):

http://pokemonshowdown.com/replay/uberssuspecttest-20558171

Just a random battle, i played like shit but end up winning lol:

http://pokemonshowdown.com/replay/uberssuspecttest-20558505

Threat List:

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Kyogre is a problem for this team. I usually send Kyurem to beat him, as Draco Meteor can OHKO kyogre after SR.


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Excadrill in sand is a really hard to take down. But giratina can OHKO it with EQ and can survive +2 Shadow Claw.


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I usually counter him with Kyurem -w. and if i dont have Kyurem then my giratina can also check him.


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In sun venusaur can be a problem. To counter it i let someone absorb sleep (Usually Terrakion) then i can easily beat him with Kyurem-W.


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Lugia is extremely hard to conter without Kyurem-W. Other wise i can easily beat him.


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Mewtwo is a threat too but Giratina can 2HKO him with Shadow Sneak with the help of SR. Terrakion can also beat weakened Mewtwo.


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Arceus can easily sweep my team if terra is down. Otherwise Terra can OHKO him with CC after SR and 2 layers of spikes (For bulky Arceus)


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It can't do much. Kyurem-W can KO him. But it can T wave me which i dont like.


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Sub nasty plot drakrai is a huge threat. Terrakion can beat it with ease, but if terra is down then my team struggle against it.

For those who wants to use this team :3
Importable:

Slender Man (Deoxys-Speed) @ Focus Sash
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 148 HP / 252 Spd / 108 Atk
Jolly Nature
- Spikes
- Taunt
- Stealth Rock
- Fire Punch

Red Bull (Terrakion) @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Justified
EVs: 208 Spd / 252 Atk / 48 HP
Jolly Nature
- Close Combat
- Stone Edge
- Sleep Talk
- X-Scissor

Sky Fall (Arceus) @ Lum Berry
Trait: Multitype
EVs: 196 HP / 252 Atk / 56 Spd / 4 SDef
Adamant Nature
- ExtremeSpeed
- Shadow Claw
- Swords Dance
- Recover

Wait&Bleed (Giratina-Origin) @ Griseous Orb
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 252 Atk / 148 HP / 88 Spd / 20 Def
Adamant Nature
- Substitute
- Dragon Tail
- Shadow Sneak
- Earthquake

Strike Down (Mewtwo) @ Life Orb
Trait: Pressure
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Timid Nature
- Psystrike
- Ice Beam
- Aura Sphere
- Grass Knot

Blood Lust (Kyurem-White) @ Choice Specs
Trait: Turboblaze
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Timid Nature
- Draco Meteor
- Fusion Flare
- Focus Blast
- Ice Beam
 
Your Deoxys-S can barely, barely, OHKO Genesect. With extreme luck.

108 Atk Deoxys-S Fire Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Genesect: 244-288 (86.21 - 101.76%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO
 
Hi, I have a few suggestions.

1)What Gennosuke Fujiki said. If you want to move speed and hp to atk (216 with Jolly speed is needed to outspeed max Deo-A and Scarfed Palkia) then the calc becomes 252 Atk Deoxys-S Fire Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Genesect: 276-328 (97.52 - 115.9%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO. The rest of the ev's can be dumped into hp. Maybe some in def so genesect gets an atk boost.
Slender Man (Deoxys-Speed) @ Focus Sash
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 36 HP / 4 Def / 252 Atk / 216 Spd
Jolly Nature
- Spikes
- Stealth Rock
- Taunt
- Fire Punch

2) Any powerful hit (Kyogre Water Spout, Kyurem-W Draco, Rayquaza Outrage ect.), mainly scarfed ones, can get a kill every time they switch in. I know it is hyper offense and all, but Scarfed Kyogre outspeeds all but Terrakion (who can't kill with CC) and Deoxys-S (because fire punch is going to hurt it). Arceus can use E-Speed for damage, but it's not like they are staying in knowing it is Arceus-Normal. Maybe tailwind support could help?

3) A few of them have been mentioned in the threatlist and that is weather sweepers. Especially speed abilities (swift swim, sand rush ect.). With no weather changer, they outspeed your whole team. About your Giratina-O:
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Excadrill Shadow Claw vs. 148 HP / 20 Def Giratina-O: 439-517 (91.84 - 108.15%) -- 50% chance to OHKO. Hey, that is an OHKO after Stealth Rocks.

+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Excadrill Iron Head vs. 148 HP / 20 Def Giratina-O: 374-442 (78.24 - 92.46%) -- 37.5% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock Not bad, and that's without the 30% flinch chance.

+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Arceus-Normal ExtremeSpeed vs. 64 HP / 0 Def Excadrill: 266-314 (70.55 - 83.28%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock Yeah, and +2 Excadrill OHKO's with EQ. Remember, Arceus does not come out of the ball at +2. So, Excadrill setting up on Terrakion or -2 Kyurem can just sweep.

Just a few examples (and that's just Excadrill, not to mention that LO Ho-Oh wrecks your team with Brave Bird and the other weather sweepers).

Good luck and keep some of these in mind if you decide to change your team.
 
I think you should just run 252 Attack EVs on Deoxys. The extra bulk you gave him doesn't really seem like it would help him take any extra hits because his HP stat is rather low. The Attack EVs would also allow him to OHKO Genesect most of the time.

252Atk Deoxys (Neutral) Fire Punch vs 0HP/0Def Genesect (Neutral): 97% - 115% (276 - 328 HP). Guaranteed 2HKO. 86% chance to OHKO.

I also think that you need Rayquaza because you don't really have a way to stop weather sweepers. I'd probably use the standard DD Rayquaza set.

Since you'd have Rayquaza instead of Kyurem W you could change your Mewtwo set to help against Lugia. Try this set. I've been using a Mewtwo that has had it for quite a while and it's pretty effective and catches people off guard.

Mewtwo @ Leftovers Trait: Pressure
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Aura Sphere
- Ice Beam
- Psystrike
- Taunt

TL;DR
Deoxys EVs: 4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 Atk
Switch Kyurem W to Rayquaza
Change Mewtwos set to the one I suggested.

This team is good and I hope these changes make it even better.
 
hi there master chaos5, nice team. kyurem-w in conjuction with deoxys-s's hazards is DEADLY. you seem to put a ton of pressure on the opponent too so good job about that.


looking at your threatlist you basically covered every big threat. cm arceus literally 6-0's you, especially ghost arceus. weather sweepers, such as venusaur and excadrill as you said, are faster than everything your team has and can ohko/do a lot to each member of your team. darkrai is also problematic if it manages to get a substitute and put terrakion to sleep.

honestly, it all gets fixed by one simple change. i don't really see what mewtwo does for you other than being genesect bait and adding to your cm arceus weakness. i'd recommend using specially defensive kyogre instead, as it allows you to counter all above threats, along with opposing kyurem-w, lugia, and even extreme killer if needed (scald does 40% and has a good chance to burn). it does make your team less offensive though, but i think the benefit is far greater. i support master totoro's ev change on deoxys-s as well. in addition i think you should just stick to the standard 252 atk / 252 spe on terrakion as these hp evs really don't grant you anything. that way you can atleast tie with opposing terrakions.

no dragon resist makes pokemon such as dialga, lati@s, and rayquaza problematic, yet with that type of a team you just need to play around it. -2 special attack means arceus setup bait, and locked into outrage allows terrakion to easily revenge kill. recover on arceus helps with that too, as its super bulky, so i wouldn't change it. you might want to consider earthquake > shadow claw though, as you already have giratina-o and kyurem-w to handle giratina and giratina-o, and kyogre to take on ghostceus. this change is really optional though.

good luck! :toast:
 
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