The Bulky Water Dilemma

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Well, as the title implies, I need help choosing a bulky water for my team, and I also need advice on who to kick out to put that bulky water in. I tried asking at Nsider, but well, lets face it. The majority of them are idiots. I got alot of responses such as:
"Bulky water?"
"slowbro sux use rayquaza"
...And etcetera, etcetera...

So, I've narrowed it down to two pokemon to kick out, they are:

Skarmory @ Leftovers
Impish 252Def/200HP/52Atk
Drill Peck
Roost
Whirlwind
Stealth Rock

Pretty easy. Switch in, wall, switch out, and Psuedo-haze the odd DD'Tar or DD'Mence.


Rhyperior @ Leftovers
Impish 252HP/100Atk/152Def
Earthquake
Stone Edge
Substitute
Megahorn

Switch in, wall, then hit with EQ, or Stone Edge. I'm also considering Chesto Berry, and Rest instead of Sub. Good Idea?


I'm definitely leaning towards kicking out Skarm. Although losing being able to haze is a big blow for me, I think Rhyperior would be better for walling in general. He could also stand up to Sp Atackers decently, since Sandstorm WILL be in affect from my team.


Well, that covers who I need advice on kicking out, now moving on to the Bulky Waters:


Slowbro @ Leftovers
Bold 212HP/252Def/44Sp.Atk
Surf
Ice Beam
Thunderwave
Slack Off

This looks very appealing to me. Its main purpose would be to catch alot of common pokemon for super effective damage, such as Salamence, Tyranitar, Garchomp, Rhyperior (Barring Megahorn), etc, etc.

And the other pokemon:

Swampert @ Leftovers
Impish 240HP/56Atk/212Def
Earthquake
Avalanche
Stone Edge/Waterfall (Help, can't decide)
Roar

This too, looks very appealing to me. Takes out common threats with relative ease, and Roars away stuff it can't handle.



So, thats it. Please help me decide, as theres a tournament in my town next week, and I need my team ready!

(Nitpick the hell out of my sets)
 
Wait. Are you trying to include a bulky water just for the sake of having one? Thats a bad reason, skarmory and rhyperior together stop a lot of physical threats and you should only be putting in a bulky water if one of the bulky waters adds a resist or moves your team needs. Rhyperior already resists rock, fire and electric (things skarm can't always stop) so swampert won't add much over it. Slowbro means you more effectivly resist fighting but increase your weakness to electric.

So please tell me, why do you want a bulky water so badly over what you've already got? Don't put things in for the sake of putting things in.

EDit: Slowbro won't stop Ttar or CB salamence, skarm has a much better chance against them both.
 
All hail Slowbro.

His stats rock, his low speed makes him a reliable counter to enemy Trick Room teams as well, and his movepool allows for so many yummy combinations.
 
Maslada said:
EDit: Slowbro won't stop Ttar or CB salamence, skarm has a much better chance against them both.
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Skarm still loses to both of the threats you listed. Swampert has the best chances of countering either one out of the 4 above in the first post. What is this topic about anyway?

EDIT: After looking over this thread, I just realized we cannot help you without knowing your team. Even if you were to tell us that, I feel this is the wrong place to ask. Look at your team, identify what threats you can handle and cannot. Adjust your team accordingly.
 
He wants a bulky water to replace skarm or rhyperior. I said skarm has a better chance because it resists the STAB or both of those threats, I also meant CBTtar, I think skarm can roost off the damage from stone edge ok as it does alright against CB Rhyperior who has even bigger attack.
 
It also depends on the rest of your team; slowbro might not fit as well if you have like starmie and gengar or something on the same team as well.

EDIT: Woops, I didn't see Seph's post. I started my post before that was on the page.
 
Well, the rest of my team is:

(I won't bother posting sets, since they are pretty standard)


CB Tyranitar
DD Salamence
Choice Specs Alakazam
Blissey
 
This is the wrong forum for this as has been stated. Please repost this team with movesets, EVs, and natures in the rate my team forum. If you post it there you will get more help.
 
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