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The Comeback

FlygontoUmbreon

My Team:
Shaymin, Azelf, Feraligatr, Rhyperior, Hitmontop, Magmortar


My Lead:
Azelf@ Choice Band
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 252Spe 252Atk 6HP
-Explosion
-Fire Punch
-Zen Headbutt
-U-Turn
Why i chose Azelf as a lead is because pretty much every player thinks this is the suicide lead Azelf. If fasing Aerodactyl it wil run away using U-Turn. The sad thing about this Azelf is that even with a Choice Band it cant manage a 2HKO. This Azelf was just a test and works 50% of the time. I was thinking of changing it to a Choice Scarf set that looks like this

Azelf@ Choice Scarf
Nature: Rash
EVs: 252Spe 136SpA 120Atk
-Psychic
-Thunderbolt
-Fire Punch
-Explosion
The reason I am thinking of switching to this set is because a Scarf set can screw over Aero leads that choose to Taunt the Azelf. Psychic is just for STAB. Fire Punch is for the highly overused Scizor that is foolish enough to switch in, and Explosion when he cant do anything.

Sp. Attacker:
Shaymin@ Life Orb
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252Spe 252SpA 6HP
-Seed Flare
-Earth Power
-Rest
-HP Fire
Shaymin in my thought has gotten great moves in Plat. Earth Power deals with the ever so popular Heatran. Seed Flare is the obvius STAB. Rest is great on a Pokemon that has lifr Orb and Natural Cure. The reason I have HP fire on Shaymin and Azelf is that a Scizor Can easily KO Azelf with a BP, But it cant KO Shaymin.

The Hungry Sweeper.
Feraligatr@ Salac Berry
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 252Atk 252Spe 6 HP
-Swords Dance
-Substitute
-Waterfall
-Return
This Feraligatr works by switching in something that cant KO it, and Substitutes. When a counter come, if slower Feraligatr SDs, and then Keeps Subing down until Salac, if faster, useing Substitute at the begging assuming that it attacks.Waterfall and Return provide very good coverage oly being resisted by a few Pokemon.

PhyWall:
Rhyperior@ Leftovers
Nature: Impish
Ability: Solid Rock
EVs: 244HP 184Def 80SpD
-Stealth Rock
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge
-Megahorn
Rhyperior is more often used as a CB or Sub sweeper, but in my opinion it can work just as good as a wall. Stealth Rock is helpful for any team and i needed it and Rhyperior fits the job. I chose Megahorn because Celebi tends to switch a lot in Rhyperior but Megahorn can just annihalate Celebi, assuming it hits.

The Not-Expected Wall Hitmontop:
Hitmontop@ Leftovers
Nature: Impish
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252HP 200SpD 56Def
-Rapid Spin
-Revenge
-Toxic
-Stone Edge
This has got to be the Star of my team. This Hitmontop is of my design and it is working very well. Rapid Spin use is needed because of Magmortar, and Toxic is used to take out Hippowden and the likes. Revenge is useful because it is usualy at 180 power, so guys beware. Stone edge is used for coverege and flyers.

Sp.Attacker:
Magmortar@ Choice Scarf
Ability: Flame Body
Nature: Modest
EVs: 252Spe 252SpA 6HP
-Fire Blast
-Thunderbolt
-HP Ice
-Focus Blast
There is not much to say about this Magmortar as it is a standard Scarf one. Fire Blast for STAB, Tbolt for Gyara, HP Ice for BoltBeam and Dragons and Focus Blast is a filler.

Thats my team :)
 
FlygontoUmbreon said:
My Team:
Shaymin, Azelf, Feraligatr, Rhyperior, Hitmontop, Magmortar


My Lead:
Azelf@ Choice Band Focus Sash
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 252Spe 252Atk 6HP
-Explosion
-Fire Punch
-Zen Headbutt Stealth Rock
-U-Turn
Why i chose Azelf as a lead is because pretty much every player thinks this is the suicide lead Azelf. If fasing Aerodactyl it wil run away using U-Turn. The sad thing about this Azelf is that even with a Choice Band it cant manage a 2HKO. This Azelf was just a test and works 50% of the time. I was thinking of changing it to a Choice Scarf set that looks like this
use the standard lead set please.which lead doees Zen Headbutt OHKO?
Azelf@ Choice Scarf
Nature: Rash
EVs: 252Spe 136SpA 120Atk
-Psychic
-Thunderbolt
-Fire Punch
-Explosion
The reason I am thinking of switching to this set is because a Scarf set can screw over Aero leads that choose to Taunt the Azelf. Psychic is just for STAB. Fire Punch is for the highly overused Scizor that is foolish enough to switch in, and Explosion when he cant do anything.
use the previous set.
Sp. Attacker:
Shaymin@ Life Orb
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252Spe 252SpA 6HP
-Seed Flare
-Earth Power
-Rest
-HP Fire
Shaymin in my thought has gotten great moves in Plat. Earth Power deals with the ever so popular Heatran. Seed Flare is the obvius STAB. Rest is great on a Pokemon that has lifr Orb and Natural Cure. The reason I have HP fire on Shaymin and Azelf is that a Scizor Can easily KO Azelf with a BP, But it cant KO Shaymin.
shaymin is lousy.a weakness to the most common attacks,flamethrower,fire blast,ice beam and sludge bomb,I dont see how this small fry is going to survive long.If you want a special sweeper,you can use Togekiss,Gengar,Alakazam,Heatran,Magnezone,Rotom forms,Starmie,CMCune.All of these beat Shaymin.
Look up the sets on Smogon.Togekiss could abuse flinchhax,Gengar can revenge kill,Alakazam can cripple and sweep,Heatran has two weaknesses and a good sweeper,Magnezone as a good Scizor counter and sweeper,Rotom forms as a GOOD sweeper with high defenses,Starmie for its coverage,CMCune for bulk.
The Hungry Sweeper.
Feraligatr@ Salac Berry
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 252Atk 252Spe 6 HP
-Swords Dance
-Substitute
-Waterfall
-Return
This Feraligatr works by switching in something that cant KO it, and Substitutes. When a counter come, if slower Feraligatr SDs, and then Keeps Subing down until Salac, if faster, useing Substitute at the begging assuming that it attacks.Waterfall and Return provide very good coverage oly being resisted by a few Pokemon.
Gyarados is way better than Feraligator.Anyway,why didn't you put Dragon Dance on Feraligator?Replace Return with Ice Punch.Seriously,Return does NOT OHKO Grass types after a Dragon Dance.Ice Punch does.Gyarados set will be:

Gyarados @ Leftovers
Jolly(to outspeed Weavile after DD) or Adamant
4 HP / 252 Attack / 252 Speed
Intimidate
-Dragon Dance
-Bounce
-Waterfall
-Earthquake / Stone Edge

Bounce OHKOs Celebi after 1 DD.Ice Fang does not.Waterfall as a STAB.Earthquake is to OHKO Electric types.Stone Edge for fliers.
Rhyperior@ Leftovers
Nature: Impish
Ability: Solid Rock
EVs: 244HP 184Def 80SpD
-Stealth Rock
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge
-Megahorn
Rhyperior is more often used as a CB or Sub sweeper, but in my opinion it can work just as good as a wall. Stealth Rock is helpful for any team and i needed it and Rhyperior fits the job. I chose Megahorn because Celebi tends to switch a lot in Rhyperior but Megahorn can just annihalate Celebi, assuming it hits.
Rhyperior has 6 weaknesses.3 of which are the most common typed moves in the game:Ice,Grass and Water.Solid Rock may help Rhyperior survive ONE Surf or Energy Ball,but not two.And you dont have Sandstorm.A good pokemon for a wall can be Skarmory,Swampert and even Blissey.
The Not-Expected Wall Hitmontop:
Hitmontop@ Leftovers
Nature: Impish
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252HP 200SpD 56Def
-Rapid Spin
-Revenge
-Toxic
-Stone Edge
This has got to be the Star of my team. This Hitmontop is of my design and it is working very well. Rapid Spin use is needed because of Magmortar, and Toxic is used to take out Hippowden and the likes. Revenge is useful because it is usualy at 180 power, so guys beware. Stone edge is used for coverege and flyers.
Hitmontop does not have the defenses and speed to sweep with Revenge.Revenge sweeper can be a Primeape.

Primeape @ Salac Berry
0 Defense and Special Defense IVs
4 HP / 252 Attack / 252 Speed
-Punishment
-Revenge
-Counter / Substitute
-Endure

Works much better.Gauranteed a kill if you use it properly.Revenge is the main success of the set.With Revenge you OHKO Blissey at 10% health.Salac Berry gives you a speed boost.Punishment OHKOs 0 HP / 0 Defense Gengar.Endure ensures you activate Salac Berry.Counter is practically a gimmick kind of thing.Primeape is not feasible in OU tier,but since you want a Revenge sweeper(from what I see from Hitmontop),you can use this.Rapid Spin can be fulfilled if you use Starmie or Forretress.
Sp.Attacker:
Magmortar@ Choice Scarf
Ability: Flame Body
Nature: Modest
EVs: 252Spe 252SpA 6HP
-Fire Blast
-Thunderbolt
-HP Ice
-Focus Blast
There is not much to say about this Magmortar as it is a standard Scarf one. Fire Blast for STAB, Tbolt for Gyara, HP Ice for BoltBeam and Dragons and Focus Blast is a filler.
Scarf Heatran works much better in this spot than Magmortar.Heatran has more resistances than Magmortar.

Heatran @ Choice Scarf
Naive
Flash Fire
I forgot the spread for ScarfTran.check it on the Strategydex.
-Explosion
-Hidden Power[Grass]
-Fire Blast
-Earth Power/Dragon Pulse

Standard set.Explosion annihilates Blissey.Hidden Power[Grass] OHKOs Swampert.180 power Fire Blasts ain't a joke fired off from over 350 Special Attack is not a joke.Earth Power OHKOs other Heatrans and Jolteons,but Dragon Pulse OHKOs Latias and such.

Thats my team :)
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From what I see,I assume this is a OU team because of Azelf.Thus all UU and NU pokemon have been changed to OU,except Primeape.If this is in UU/NU,it would do fine.
 
By reading this again i come to a conclusion that you are a newb. 1st of shamin is lousy? And your sole comment that sludge bomb is a common attack i can see that you are new. why do i need a DD on Feraligatr, I bet that you only look at the movesets and then continue say stupid stuff. And seriously do you even know how Revenge works? If you read it says The Not-Expected Wall, i don't know where i said that this Hitmontop is supposed to sweep. It doesn't have the speed? Revenge is about having low speed so you can pull off a 180 BP revenge. And the comment Heatran has more resistances just confirmed it. A sweeper doesn't care about resistances it cares about how many types it covers. And Heatran has 3 weaknesses. And this isn't called change my team, but rate my team.
 
Subsalac sweepers without any speed priority moves are generally not such a great choice, due to the abundance of bullet punch scizors, extremespeed lucarios and ice shard donphans/mamoswines.

So personally, unless you change feraligatr altogether, I would recommend going DD over subsalac as well.

And yeah, Hitmontop is NOT going to have the bulk to expect to pull off revenge properly. Even if it is the not-expected wall, the fact is hitmontop can't wall at all. It doesn't matter if the opponent sees it coming or not, it'll die anyway.

Also, sweepers DO need resistances. If you're gonna crumble at anything then how do you even expect to bring a sweeper with frail defences in to sweep in the first place?
 
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