The Quickest[OU] peeked #1 omn OU leaderboard

[White Bar]

Hi Smogon, I'm Yoshimitsux aka Gravity Gengar or Y
I joined Smogon on july '09, and this is my first rmt here
Also this team hit the #1 on OU leaderboard with a CRE of 1745 under the name ''Gravity Gengar'' the idea it's quite simple, I love agilgross with his great 135 base atk and a stabbed Meteor Mash with also accettable defense
Sooo, without further ado here we go!

A QUICK VIEW!

Gliscor (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Sand Veil
EVs: 252 HP/6 Def/252 Spd
Jolly nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Stealth Rock
- Roost
- Taunt

Well, what do we have here? Max speed Gliscor? yes, I really need the max speed investment it's for other gliscor lead (they are very common) and stop them with taunt, I really like gliscor, average speed, access to roost AND taunt, one of the best lead ever, nothing to say about it also he get a evasion boost thanks to sand veil

Vaporeon (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 188 HP/252 Def/68 SDef
Bold nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Wish
- Surf
- Protect
- Roar

Who are Metagross explosion-less worse counter? Yeah Rotom-a and Bulky Water (Hi suicune) Roar is for cmcune Who is really a pain in the ass >_>, also with vaporeon I get a nice ''bonus'' with wish

Tyranitar (M) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 Atk/6 HP/252 Spd
Jolly nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Pursuit
- Superpower
- Crunch
- Stone Edge

''Oh no another boring Scarftar'' yeah lol, this thing is AMAIZING, with jolly nature and 252 speed evs he reach 364 speed, enough to surpass naive azelf and pursuit him to death, really it's amaizing, pokemon like azelf gengar (switch on shadow ball/tbolt/hpfire) starmie (switch on ice beam/thunderbolt) latias (anything but grass knot/surf) stone edge it's for stab and generally and a fast respond against people like zapdos, gyarados, salamence and dragonite, the last spot well, i choosed superpower over EQ for opposite tar (especially ddtar without max speed) while still defeating lucario and heatran

Metagross @ Life Orb
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 112 HP/252 Atk/144 Spd
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Agility
- Meteor Mash
- Earthquake
- Thunderpunch

The star of the team! Amaizing, Thunderpunch deals people like cune (hate him >_>) gyarados, even mence will die after sr damage, after one single agility metagross surpass scarftran and kill him with EQ great poke lulz

Latias (F) @ Life Orb
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 6 HP/252 Spd/252 SAtk
Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Draco Meteor
- Surf
- Recover
- Thunderbolt


Now I need a good teammates for metagross who can take fire and ground attack, who else better than a dragon? Actually I'm a little confused about latias set (please help me here) it may seem odd life orb with a sand veil user, but usually recover helps me alot, also a boosted draco meteor hurts even steel pokes, surf and thunderbolt are there for coverage, and also because I don't like hp fire who give me 30 speed who reach 349 on speed just lo allow opposite 110 base speed tu surpass me and kill me (gengar, latias)

Skarmory (M) @ Shed Shell
Ability: Keen Eye
EVs: 252 HP/74 Def/184 SDef
Impish nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Spikes
- Roost
- Brave Bird
- Whirlwind/Taunt



And here we go the last member! Spikes it's needed for metagross, I'm searching a better evs spread for him, I'm not quite sure about these...
Usually I run taunt, because Vaporeon already got Roar

Threat List (Taken from Team Sugarless Girl)

Scizor: Usually Gliscor and Skarmory joke about the choice banded u-turn, sd variant are ''defeated'' by skarmory, thanks to taunt and brave bird

Salamence: Hmm tricky, prediction is the key, for mixmence I send skarmory then Tar to take the flamethrower and finish him with stone edge, but dd variant are really a pain in the ass, usually I let life orb, Stealth Rock, and Sandstorm do the job

Gyarados: hmm, switch to latias if I see leftovers recovery if not I have Vaporeon (with water absorb for saving skarmory) and skarmory itself with brave bird) restalker are usually handled by latias, if Metagross used agility then thunderpunch will be enough to bring him down

Rotom-a if I don't see leftovers on him then scarftar will do it's job, altrough restalker or defensive rotom well this is alot difficult, I send gliscor for taunt then switch to tar and pursuit him to death, latias' draco meteor hurt him too

Heatran: Nah, I don't have any problem with him at all, Vaporeon, Latias and Tyranitar do their job

Latias: hmm specs version are a little boring usually skarmory take the first meteor then I send tar with pursuit scarf version lost alot of rav power so ttar can come in with little problem, and about the Lorber pretty much the same about the specs set

Metagross Usually gliscor, skarmory can come in and setup spikes on him, mix-gross variant are very rare

Lucario: Tyranitar can kill him with superpower, Gliscor it's a great lucario counter especially with the max speed evs specs version are the same but gliscor must watch out for hp ice

Infernape: Latias and Vaporeon can beat him, the only problem may pose a treath it's the choice bander with u-turn, but he never pose a treath

Jirachi: scarfrachi it's usually a lead, so bring in scarftar right away, sometimes Skarmory can come in on a blocked iron head jirachi and setup spikes cmrachi it's quite boring, usually I send in Gliscor with taunt and EQ

Gengar: Send in ttar on a nonfocusblast and pursuit him to death

Swampert: Hmm... mixpert it's usually lead so I bring skarmory to get some spikes, cbpert well it's quite the same about ddgyarados, cursepert go away! Spikes and Roar will do

Blissey: Non-ice beam user are stopped by gliscor, spikes and metagross' Meteor Mash will take down the pink ball

usually a lead, send scarftar and pursuit him to death

Starmie: Uhm, send vaporeon to absorb surf/hpump then tar

Gliscor: Usually lead, my gliscor stop him with taunt, then vaporeon will finish him with surf

Vaporeon: Hmm, I've got Spikes, sr and a boosted Dmeteor from latias, I hope they will do enough

: Usually they come in against Skarmory, so I sent Gliscor to take Thunderbolt, if they are scarfed they will switch, if not, Eq will bring them down,

Kingdra: Hmm, ddancer are defetaed by vaporeon and skarmory, vaporeon got roar and lures kingdra to use outrage for my pleasure rain dancer are boring but I've got ttar with sand veil to destroy their evil deeds

Breeloom: Fuckin' hate this thing, send someone to sleep, then switch to gliscor/latias to finish him

: Hmm, gliscor can taunt him, latias got thunderbolt to kill him of course spikes it's a pain in the ass

Bronzong: Not a big problem, Gliscor can taunt him, Skarmory can setup spikes on him, just watch out for trick

Celebi: Usually prediction with tyranitar And spikes is the key, the only problem it's leaf storm but Tyranitar resist it thanks to sand veil

Flygon: Scarfed are handled by gliscor and tyranitar, mixgon by latias and vaporeon

Suicune: 'k I HATE THIS GUY, just pray they don't have hp electr then send vaporeon with roar and defeat him with latias/metagross when they are weakened due to spikes and stealth rock

Jolteon: it's all about predict against specs jolteon, charge beammer user should be handled by tyranitar and entry hazards

Empoleon: agility petaya it's handled by roar from vaporeon

Forretress: Never battled one with this team, but it's really boring, just for him I was thinking about Rotom-a>Latias but I'm still not sure yet

Electivire: Never battled one but oh well, switch on a nonicepunch attack to latias and finish him off with draco meteor

Togekiss: Gliscor can taunt him, and Tyranitar finish him with Stone edge

Weavile: hmm, not a problem at all, Skramory can use him for spikes setup and metagross for agility setup

Aerodactyl: Hmm tricky, usually send in vaporeon on the taunt, then surf on the second turn when they will use SR Surf him, i they stay after the first surf they are good as dead if not, Aerodactyl without the focus sash isn't much of a issue

Mamoswine: Skarmory can use him for spikes setup

Snorlax: Skarmory can Play with him

Dusknoir: Taunt then Tyranitar

Smeargle: Usually lead, Gliscor will taunt him, but must be careful about choice scarfed smeargle

Ninjask: Skarmory and Vaporeon

Tentacruel: Hmm don't know, never meeted but I guess gliscor and metagross will kill him

Dragonite: Same as Salamence, but I must watch out for lead version, maybe send Ttar on the Draco meteor then kill him with stone edge

Hippowdon: Gliscor can taunt him, Skarmory can use him as spikes setup

Roserade: I just pray he don't know hp ice or I'm in bad trouble, if Gliscor dies, send in Tyranitar with pursuit

Porygon-z: Tyranitar can take everything but hp fight and kill him with superpower

Cresselia: Tyranitar is my only hope here, also thanks to sand stream moonlight will only recover 25%

Heracross: Gliscor will do

Umbreon: Same as Snorlax...

Alakazam: Same as Gengar

That's all good rate ^^

 

[Super Mario Bro]

Hi,

Nice team, but you have nothing to block rapid spin. I recommend Rotom-A to replace your Latias. (Especially since Latias is probably going to be banned soon :P)

Rotom-A @ Leftovers
Timid Nature
EVs: 252 HP/68 Def/188 Speed
-Will-O-Wisp
-Pain Split
-Substitute/Shadow Ball/Overheat
-Thunderbolt

These EVs allow Rotom-A to outpace Adamant Lucario, as well as give it the most bulk as possible.

Good luck! :)

 

[Smith]

Rapid spinners aren't very common any more, so I don't think a spin-blocker is a necessity for this team.

 

[Super Mario Bro]

I disagree. A Foretress/Starmie can easily come in and spin away all of his hard work, and there would be nothing that he could do to defend himself.

I think Rotom contributes a lot more to your team than Latias, and is a much better Gyarados counter than Latias (especially since I am seeing a lot more with ice fang these days).

 

[lordkira]

actually rapid spinner are pretty common for stallish teams and highly offensive teams for obvious reasons. however, for a bulky offense team like this where none of these guys take a huge damage with the entry hazards (sr esp), i don't believe a blocker for the rapid spinner is a necessity. in fact, it might even be a waste of a pokie slot.

 

[iKitsune]

Smart metagaming. The majority of teams are bulky offense and subsequently they hate AgiliGross. You will lose to stall with Forretress teamed up with Swampert and Rotom as you wont be able to unleash metagross in any capacity whilst Swampy will stay at full health as there are no spikes . But seeing as no one really uses stall, or more accurately no forretress you should be OK in the majority of situations. As long as you win 80%+ of games your good, right?

Gliscor, Vaporeon, Metagross and Tyranitar are all fine. However Skarmory and Latias could probably be changed. For Latias i suggest specs as you are quite weak to stall, trick will help you out especially. Just change the Recover for Trick and change the item.

On Skarmory consider this ev spread: 252hp/56spe/200sp.def, you could also run a careful nature but its not a necessity. This allows you to outspeed other skarm and taunt it. As for the moveset unless you specifically want brave bird i would instead run Taunt and Whilrwind.

Anyway great team and congrats on reaching that no1 spot.

 

[Thorns]

i don't understand how this team made #1 with all the stall flying around at higher ratings personally, specstias is the way to go

though you clearly do not intend on using this team anymore, since you already said it was #1 on the ladder

 

[Squidd]

This allows you to outspeed Breloom and taunt it, it could be a problem if it gets a spore off.

On which planet would that allow skarmory to outspeed breloom?

 

[IbukiX]

I believe the original EV spread for Skarmory was...

252 HP / 64 Atk / 176 Def / 16 Spe

But i don't think the 16 into spe is needed unless you're worrying about Rhyperiors in standard OU...

And Whirlwind over Taunt so that you can force switches into entry hazards such as Spikes (plus u can blow away annoying slower pokes).

 

[iKitsune]

I believe the original EV spread for Skarmory was...

252 HP / 64 Atk / 176 Def / 16 Spe

But i don't think the 16 into spe is needed unless you're worrying about Rhyperiors in standard OU...

And Whirlwind over Taunt so that you can force switches into entry hazards such as Spikes (plus u can blow away annoying slower pokes).

no one uses defensive skarmory anymore, sp.def skarmory gets way more chances at setting up spikes and it still has great defense. Taunt is crucial as well for preventing Blissey, opposing skarmory and Garyados all from phazing, setting up spikes or paralyzing you. I'm not trying to be rude or mean but you should learn more about the current metagame on SU before posting in this forum.

 

[Ciaran]

Listen to iKitsune, he speak trooff. SpecsTias would be a much better addition for the team IMO and Skarm having Taunt access would help against stall. Really simple changes that won't drastically change how you play the team but will help a lot against a popular high leaderboard playstyle.

 

[Snorlaxe]

Hello! This is a nice team and you've obviously had some success with it, so congrats on that. This team is also a great example of an anti-metagaming team, and it does do a nice job of accommodating an Agilitygross sweep.

I think that you could be doing more for Metagross, however. You really lack having a way to create opportunities for him to setup and sweep. Like, the team support is all there, but he isn't actually going to be able to find a lot of places to set up, especially when you consider that most of your team really isn't at all fast. Something that I think would be cool on your team is a Choice Band Scizor, as its powerful U-turn allows Metagross to come in all day when it sees a chance, and not only will the Pokemon then be weakened and forced to switch out while Metagross uses Agility, but Metagross will also probably be in on something it counters to begin with if its coming in from a U-turn. I was gonna say to stack Scizor over Vaporeon only because your team doesn't need the Wish support (three members excluding Vaporeon have recovery lol), but then I saw how Vappy's Roar is basically all you can do against Suicune. Sooo I would say to use Scizor over Skarmory; Spikes aren't actually needed for Agilitygross to sweep to be honest, as most of the things that can stop an Agilitygross sweep are immune to Spikes, i.e. Flygon and other Levitators / Flying-types.

I would actually say at the moment that a major problem with your team is how everyone is walled by Swampert...especially Metagross, who won't be able to break past him even after an Agility. Seeing as really noone on your team can get past him (barring Latias with Draco Meteor, which is risky) I would say that he does need to be addressed. You said you were looking for a new set for your Latias, and I think I have one; a more lure-ish kind of Latias. Use a set of Dragon Pulse | Hidden Power Fire | Grass Knot | Recover, an EV spread of 4 HP | 252 SpA | 252 Spe, and a Timid nature with a Life Orb. This Latias set aims to catch Latias's usual counters like TTar and Scizor off guard, and from my personal experience with this set it does a damn good job at it. The only issue with this Latias is how shes walled by Heatran, but your team already handles Heatran so well with ScarfTar and Vaporeon that its basically a non-issue.

That's basically all I can see with the team, a SpinBlocker would be a cool idea on this team, but to be honest you have no place for it. If you put it in place of Gliscor you'd have no Stealth Rock; in place of Vaporeon, no Suicune counter; in place of ScarfTar, you would open yourself up to loads of threats...the list basically goes on. Thankfully for you with the advent of Life Orb Rapid Spin Starmie Rapid Spinners have kinda gone down in usage aside from Starmie, who is already handled to a "t" by Tyranitar and has no place to Rapid Spin on your team. Not to mention that a Rapid Spin Blocker would completely open you up to Pursuit users (Latias + Spin Blocker = opposing ScarfTars' dream come true :P). Anyway this is a great team, hope you have success with it in the future!

 

[YounhaJjang]

Most rapid spinners die to ScarfTar anyway and bulky offense generally gets a lot of opportunities to set up hazards again. The only thing I can see wrong with this team is that it has problems dealing with last pokemon CursePert but other than that its a really good team.

 

[White Bar]

Thank you ^^
So, I will start testing bait latias

 

[Darkon]

If Latias or Tyranitar dies, Gengar kill all your team with hypnosis + thunderbolt + shadow ball + focus blast.

And Salamence dragon dance is a big problem to you.

 

[Asuya Sosuke]

It's a very good team but Mence after a dance CAN SWEEP ALL YOUR TEAM and this is not good
For resolve this problem you can use Suicune>Vaporeon with this set:
Suicune@Chesto Berry
Ability: Pressure
Evs: 252 hp / 252 Def / 6 Satk
Nature: Bold

- Calm mind
- Surf
- Ice beam
- Rest

Good Luck.