THis team won me 10 strait on shoddy

gibsonguitar

Hi as you probably read this team won me 10 strait on shoddy. I would like to of course to win more with this team and make it better than it is. Thanks ahead for the help.

Heatran
modest
leftovers
evs= HP 252 / Def 96 / Spc. att 100 / Spc def 60/
-lava plume
-earth power
-rest
-sleep talk

Standard talkingtran. Pretty good lead cause of all the bronzongs out there. Sleep talk helps a lot also in case of hypnosis. He's pretty good and comes in handy from time to time.

Cresselia
bold
leftovers
evs= Hp 252 / Def 220 / Spc Def 36/
-phychic
-ice beam
-moon light
-calm mind

Great counter for a majority of things. Infernape, garchomp, salamence, starmie and so on. T-wave support helps me to set up calm minds and then if I need to i can heal with moon light.

Celebi
bold
leftovers
evs = Hp 252 / Def 220 / Spe 36 /
-grass knot
-leech seed
-recover
-thunder wave

More support with t-wave+leech seed. This thing is what takes out the majority of walls I come up against. Leech seed is also great for healing pokes damaged in battle or cress if she needs to setup. Twave+leech seed=cress sweep. Always a pain to take down.

Jirachi
timid
choice scarf
evs= Hp 80 / Spe 176 / Spc att 252 /
-phychic
-thunder bolt
-grass knot
-Hp ice/ ground

Ok i know what ur thinking. WHat is this? Well I happens to be my solution to a lot of things. It can out speed a gyrados with one dragon dance up (It has killed 4 in the 10 matches I have played with this team and all the same way). Psychic is a staple because on stab. Grass knot for anything like bulky waters. Hp ice for garchomp and salamece that are also surprised by the scarf. Or ground for any steels or fire. Also covers all of salamences weaknesses and vise versa salamence covers jirachi's so they work in perfect unicen.

Blissey
Bold
leftovers
evs= HP 252 / Def 252 / Spc Def 4 /
-seismic toss
-soft boiled
-thunfer wave
-stealth rock

More t wave support, and stealth rock. Seismic toss for good damage and soft boiled to recover. Amazing wall. I might run wish bliss as the team lacks toxic which I will get to later.

Salamence
adament
leftovers/focus sash
evs = Hp 120 / Att 252 / Spe 136 /
-dragon dance
-dragon claw
-earthquake
-Roost

The other half of Jirachi and my only physical power. Again I use t-wave for some first action ddance and if Im lucky parahax. I use rockslide>stone edge because after a couple ddances its not going to matter and it has better hit rate and can cause flinch.

SO thats the team that woon me 10 in a row.

THINGS I NEED: -toxic of some form (wish bliss maybe, but might mess with the twave strat+stealth rock. I could run a zapdos with toxic and roar to scout ahead for potential threats.
-Cleric cause i dont need to be poisoned burnd or paralized cause that will mess up my walls and mess up my salamence. (blissey or celebi.) Also I find myself switching out from heatran when he is asleep and isnt reliable in the situation cleric would help.

POkemon I am looking at:
spped deoxys with spikes, taunt combo as a starter.
Zapados for toxic and scouting for threats. Could be a starter.
Suicune???

Again thanks for any help u can offer.

Changes in Bold
 
gibsonguitar said:
Cresselia
-phychic
-ice beam
-moon light
-calm mind

Great counter for a majority of things. Infernape, garchomp, salamence, starmie and so on. T-wave support helps me to set up calm minds and then if I need to i can heal with moon light.
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Get rid of psychic and put twave.
 
Why would he do that? He loses his ability to counter Infernape (he can now only cripple it IF it decides to stay in) and now has horrible coverage when he starts to CM up, not to mention he would then be left with no STAB move.

I'll edit in my rate tomorrow ;).
 
BAM_UR_DEAD said:
Why would he do that? He loses his ability to counter Infernape (he can now only cripple it IF it decides to stay in) and now has horrible coverage when he starts to CM up, not to mention he would then be left with no STAB move.

I'll edit in my rate tomorrow ;).
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Okay. I just thought he has psychic already on his team and infernape wont be hurting cress with anything anyway, but you're right. Soz.
 
no point cming with 1 attack imo. he has twave on celebi, cress is fine, (but can probably handle anything short of np nape in sand with just twave and ib)

here's an idea, throw wish on mence (still works on smogon) and have him support jirahci instead of the other way around! very cute ;D

wishing impish salamence helps you with your GAPING hera weak, revenge killing it is actually your only hope kinda.

you can even throw toxic flamethower protect on it to make it your second bliss that you're so eagerly wanting :D
 
I might due the wishing salamence, but then I have no physical atts. My only way to stop other steels would be jirachi. Also should I run deoxyes-2 as my starter instead of heatran? ANd what about zapados, it can use toxic+wall.
 
There is no reason to carry Thunderwave, it's completely useless for you to carry CM if you do that, please don't be stupid. With alot of Bulky pokemon, it gives you chance to stall your opponents do death, meaning toxic spikes should fit perfect here. Since you have no Physical Wall, I would strongly suggest you run a very defensive Salamence WITH Roost, you can keep DD, and Dragon Claw and Eartquake, this will help you out with Lucario and Heracross, who otherwise rape you. With that, you shouldn't worry about Lucario and Heracross anymore.

Toxic Spikes can successfully be layed down by Tentacruel, who is a special tank, being able to counter MixApe, removing the Toxic Spikes, as well as setting them up. In my opinion, Jirachi or Cresselia could be replaced, although I would lean to Jirachi more, as you can handle Gyarados with Celebi, and Cresselia can take Garchomp.

If you decide to keep the Cresselia, 252 Hp / 176 Def / 80 SpAtk would fit better, as Calm Mind will increase the SpDef already, and you need some SpAtk to inflict more damage on said pokemon. With that, you become real real Weavile weak, pretty much the only wau you can handle it is Heatran + Cresselia, if it's a Choice Bander, prediction will have to work, if it's a Sword Dancer then you pretty much fucked. If you were to replace something else, it's pick your poison from there
 
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