VGC 21 Tornadus

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:bw/Tornadus:
[SET]
name: Offensive Tailwind
move 1: Hurricane
move 2: Tailwind
move 3: Protect / Heat Wave / Dark Pulse
move 4: Heat Wave / Dark Pulse
item: Life Orb
ability: Prankster
nature: Timid
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Tornadus finds itself as a critical component of many Kyogre teams, supporting them with Prankster Tailwind and its immense offensive pressure. Hurricane is fully accurate under Kyogre's rain, and it allows Tornadus to boost its team's Speed with Max Airstream. Tailwind is invaluable speed control that is particularly strong alongside Kyogre, letting it outspeed and nearly 2HKO or OHKO the entire metagame. Heat Wave provides Max Flare, which immensely benefits Chlorophyll Venusaur. Dark Pulse gives Tornadus a means to OHKO Dynamaxed Calyrex-S with Max Darkness, and its Special Defense lowering effect can be taken advantage of by Kyogre. Icy Wind provides additional speed control, but it is harder to justify over other options.

Tornadus should always be paired with Kyogre and helps it greatly by providing Tailwind and checking Grass-types such as Venusaur, Amoonguss, and Rillaboom. Typical partners to this pair include Venusaur to answer Regieleki, Torkoal to enable Chlorophyll Venusaur, and the support Pokemon Incineroar and Grimmsnarl. Note that on of the support Pokemon could instead be a more offensive Pokemon such as Choice Band Urshifu-S or Regieleki. The former is a powerful threat that benefits immensely from Tailwind, while the latter appreciates Tornadus checking Grass-types.

[SET]
name: Tailwind Support
move 1: Hurricane
move 2: Tailwind
move 3: Taunt
move 4: Protect / Icy Wind / Rain Dance
item: Focus Sash / Wacan Berry / Mental Herb
ability: Prankster
nature: Timid
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Tornadus is an amazing support Pokemon for many Kyogre teams, able to put on incredible offensive pressure and support its team with Tailwind, Taunt, and Icy Wind. Hurricane is a powerful and consistent STAB move under Kyogre's rain that becomes Max Airstream, letting Tornadus boost its team's Speed. Tailwind is indispensable speed control that pairs really well with Water Spout Kyogre. Taunt allows Tornadus to shut down status moves from the likes of Porygon2, Amoonguss, and Venusaur. Icy Wind gives Tornadus additional speed control, potentially giving it the upper hand against opposing Tailwind teams. Rain Dance is useful against Drought setters like Groudon and Torkoal Wacan Berry specifically helps against Regieleki, a huge threat to Kyogre teams, while Mental Herb prevents Whimsicott from denying Tailwind with Prankster Taunt.

Tornadus should almost always be paired with Kyogre because it lacks a niche outside Kyogre teams and Tornadus can support Kyogre by providing speed control and checking Grass-types such as Rillaboom and Venusaur. Tornadus and Kyogre are quite vulnerable to Regieleki, so answers to Regieleki such as Kartana and Venusaur make good partners. Note that Torkoal should be run alongside Venusaur to activate Chlorophyll. Tornadus is also great alongside Regieleki, as it can check troublesome Grass-types. Choice Band Urshifu-S is a powerful Pokemon that benefits immensely from Tornadus's Tailwind.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Yourwelcomethanku, 541847]]
- Quality checked by: [[Sole Survivor, 518634]]
- Grammar checked by: [[DC, 449990]]
 
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Hello YWT, doing an AM QC check approved by Giokio. The content in this is good overall, I would just suggest paying a little bit more attention to the grammar. Implement this and it's QC 1/1.

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:BW/Tornadus:

[SET]
name: Offensive Tailwind
move 1: Hurricane
move 2: Tailwind
move 3: Protect / Heat Wave / Dark Pulse
move 4: Heat Wave / Dark Pulse
item: Life Orb
ability: Prankster
nature: Timid
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Tornadus finds itself as a critical component of many Kyogre teams, supporting them with Prankster Tailwind, as well its immense offensive pressure alongside Kyogre. Hurricane is Tornadus's strongest STAB move, which its able to use without risking a miss is fully accurate under Kyogre's rain, and it grants access to Max Airstream to boost its team's (AA) Speed. Tailwind is simply invaluable speed control for nearly any team and it's (AA) particularly strong alongside Kyogre, (AC) letting it outspeed and 2HKO or OHKO nearly the entire metagame. Contradictory to Tornadus's role of supporting Kyogre, Heat Wave's purpose is to set the sun via Max Flare, the reason being that this Tornadus set is oftentimes paired with Chlorophyll Venusaur, who benefits immensely from the sun. Dark Pulse gives Tornadus means to OHKO Dynamaxed Calyrex-S with Max Darkness and the its Special Defense-lowering (AH) effect of Max Darkness can be taken advantage of by Tornadus's best teammate (since you mentioned Kyogre right at the start I'm not sure if this is needed, but I wouldn't mind if you kept it in), Kyogre. Icy Wind is an alternative over one of Tornadus's last two moves, which gives Tornadus speed control beyond Tailwind and Max Airstream, which could give it the upper hand in the face of opposing speed control, however Icy Wind is difficult to justify.

This Tornadus set should always be paired with Kyogre, as Tornadus pairs excellently with Kyogre it, providing it with Tailwind and checking Grass-types such as Venusaur and Rillaboom (I feel like Amoonguss could use a mention here). The rest of the team is typically filled out with Venusaur, as it's (AA) a strong answer to Regieleki who is a huge threat to Tornadus and Kyogre, Torkoal because its Drought activates Venusaur's Chlorophyll, and then both or one of the support Pokemon Incineroar or Grimmsnarl. Note that the slot of one of the support Pokemon is pretty quite (keeping it formal) flexible and could instead be something more offensive such as Choice Band Urshifu-S or Regieleki. The former is a powerful threat which benefits immensly from Tailwind, while the latter appreciates Tornadus's ability to check Grass-types.

[SET]
name: Tailwind support
move 1: Hurricane
move 2: Tailwind
move 3: Taunt
move 4: Protect / Icy Wind / Rain Dance
item: Focus Sash / Wacan Berry / Mental Herb
ability: Prankster
nature: Timid
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Tornadus is an amazing support Pokemon for many (I feel it's a good Pokemon for pretty much any Kyogre team as Trick Room Kyogre is rather niche and doesn't see very much play) Kyogre teams, able to put on incredible offensive pressure with Kyogre, and support its team most importantly via Tailwind but also Taunt and Icy Wind. Hurricane is a powerful and consistent STAB move under Kyogre's rain, which also gives Tornadus access to Max Airstream to boost its team's (AA) Speed. Tailwind is indispensable speed control, and it's especially strong with Kyogre's Water Spout which can OHKO or 2HKO the majority of the metagame. Taunt allows Tornadus to shut down status moves from the likes of Porygon2, Amoonguss, and Venusaur. Icy Wind gives Tornadus speed control beyond Tailwind, potentially giving it the upper hand in the face of opposing Tailwind. Rain Dance is useful against the Drought setters Groudon and Torkoal to set the rain and turn the battle back into Kyogre's favor. Focus Sash helps Tornadus's middling bulk, (AC) allowing it to take any one attack. One of the few ways to prevent Tornadus from setting Tailwind is with Prankster Taunt from Whimsicott, however Mental Herb fixes this. Wacan Berry's purpose is to help versus Regieleki specifically, and this is especially important considering how threatening it can be to Kyogre teams.

Tornadus should almost always be paired with Kyogre because they pair extraordinarily well, Tornadus can provide speed control and check Grass-types such as Rillaboom and Venusaur for Kyogre. Both Tornadus and Kyogre are quite vulnerable to Regieleki, (RC) so answers to Regieleki such as Kartana or Venusaur make good partners. Note that if running Venusaur, Torkoal should be run alongside it to activate Chlorophyll. Tornadus is great alongside Regieleki as it can check troublesome Grass-types for it. Choice Band Urshifu-S is a powerful Pokemon that benefits immensely from Tornadus's Tailwind.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Yourwelcomethanku, 541847]]
- Quality checked by: [[Sole Survivor, 518634]]
- Grammar checked by: [[username1, userid1]]

 
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:bw/Tornadus:
name: Offensive Tailwind
move 1: Hurricane
move 2: Tailwind
move 3: Protect / Heat Wave / Dark Pulse
move 4: Heat Wave / Dark Pulse
item: Life Orb
ability: Prankster
nature: Timid
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Tornadus finds itself as a critical component of many Kyogre teams, supporting them with Prankster Tailwind, as well as its immense offensive pressure alongside Kyogre. Hurricane is Tornadus's strongest STAB move, which is fully accurate under Kyogre's rain, and it grants access to Max Airstream to boost its team's Speed. Tailwind is simply invaluable speed control for nearly any team and it's particularly strong alongside Kyogre, letting it outspeed and 2HKO or OHKO nearly the entire metagame. Contradictory to Tornadus's role of supporting Kyogre, Heat Wave's purpose is to set the sun via Max Flare, the reason being that because this Tornadus set is oftentimes paired with Chlorophyll Venusaur, who benefits immensely from the sun. Dark Pulse gives Tornadus means to OHKO Dynamaxed Calyrex-S with Max Darkness and its Special Defence Defense-(RH)lowering effect can be taken advantage of by Kyogre. Icy Wind is an alternative over one of Tornadus's last two moves, which gives Tornadus speed control beyond Tailwind and Max Airstream, which could give it the upper hand in the face of opposing speed control, however Icy Wind is difficult to justify.

This Tornadus set should always be paired with Kyogre, as Tornadus pairs excellently with it, providing it with Tailwind and checking Grass-types such as Venusaur, Amoonguss, and Rillaboom. The rest of the team is typically filled out with Venusaur, as it's a strong answer to Regieleki who is a huge threat to Tornadus and Kyogre, Torkoal because its Drought activates Venusaur's Chlorophyll, and then both or one(maybe swap placements of ‘both’ and ‘one’) of the support Pokemon Incineroar or Grimmsnarl. Note that the slot of one of the support Pokemon is quite flexible and could instead be something more offensive such as Choice Band Urshifu-S or Regieleki. The former is a powerful threat which benefits immensly from Tailwind, while the latter appreciates Tornadus's ability to check Grass-types.

[SET]
name: Tailwind Support
move 1: Hurricane
move 2: Tailwind
move 3: Taunt
move 4: Protect / Icy Wind / Rain Dance
item: Focus Sash / Wacan Berry / Mental Herb
ability: Prankster
nature: Timid
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Tornadus is an amazing support Pokemon for many Kyogre teams, able to put on incredible offensive pressure with Kyogre, and support its team most importantly via Tailwind but also with Taunt and Icy Wind. Hurricane is a powerful and consistent STAB move under Kyogre's rain, which also gives Tornadus access to Max Airstream to boost its team's Speed. Tailwind is indispensable speed control, and it's especially strong with Kyogre's Water Spout which can OHKO or 2HKO the majority of the metagame. Taunt allows Tornadus to shut down status moves from the likes of Porygon2, Amoonguss, and Venusaur. Icy Wind gives Tornadus speed control beyond Tailwind, potentially giving it the upper hand in the face of opposing speed control Tailwind. Rain Dance is useful against the Drought setters Groudon and Torkoal to set the rain and turn the battle back into Kyogre's favor. Focus Sash helps Tornadus's middling bulk, allowing it to take any one attack. Wacan Berry's purpose is to help versus Regieleki specifically, and this is especially important considering how threatening it can be to Kyogre teams. One of the few ways to prevent Tornadus from setting up Tailwind is with Prankster Taunt from Whimsicott, however Mental Herb fixes this.

Tornadus should almost always be paired with Kyogre because they pair extraordinarily well(RC), Tornadus can provide speed control and check Grass-types such as Rillaboom and Venusaur for Kyogre. Both Tornadus and Kyogre are quite vulnerable to Regieleki so answers to Regieleki such as Kartana or Venusaur make good partners. Note that if running Venusaur, Torkoal should be run alongside it to activate Chlorophyll. Tornadus is great alongside Regieleki as it can check troublesome Grass-types for it. Choice Band Urshifu-S is a powerful Pokemon that benefits immensely from Tornadus's Tailwind.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Yourwelcomethanku, 541847]]
- Quality checked by: [[Sole Survivor, 518634]]
- Grammar checked by: [[username1, userid1]]
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Thank you Xaviere implemented many points from your check.

One thing to note for QC, I changed This
Tornadus should almost always be paired with Kyogre because they pair extraordinarily well, Tornadus can provide speed control and check Grass-types such as Rillaboom and Venusaur for Kyogre.
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Tornadus should almost always be paired with Kyogre because it lacks much of a niche outside Kyogre teams and Tornadus is excellent support to Kyogre, able to provide speed control and check Grass-types such as Rillaboom and Venusaur.
 
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[SET]
name: Offensive Tailwind
move 1: Hurricane
move 2: Tailwind
move 3: Protect / Heat Wave / Dark Pulse
move 4: Heat Wave / Dark Pulse
item: Life Orb
ability: Prankster
nature: Timid
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Tornadus finds itself as a critical component of many Kyogre teams, supporting them with Prankster Tailwind,(RC) as well as and its immense offensive pressure alongside Kyogre. Hurricane is fully accurate under Kyogre's rain, and it grants access to Max Airstream to boost its team's Speed allows Tornadus to boost its team's Speed with Max Airstream. Tailwind is invaluable speed control for nearly any team and it's that is particularly strong alongside Kyogre, letting it outspeed and nearly 2HKO or OHKO nearly the entire metagame. Contradictory to Tornadus's role of supporting Kyogre, Heat Wave's purpose is to set the sun via Max Flare, because this Tornadus set is oftentimes paired with Chlorophyll Venusaur, who benefits immensely from the sun. Heat Wave provides Max Flare, which immensely benefits Chlorophyll Venusaur. Dark Pulse gives Tornadus a means to OHKO Dynamaxed Calyrex-S with Max Darkness,(AC) and its Special Defense lowering effect can be taken advantage of by Kyogre. Icy Wind is an alternative over one of Tornadus's last two moves, which gives Tornadus speed control beyond Tailwind and Max Airstream, which could give it the upper hand in the face of opposing speed control, however Icy Wind is difficult to justify. Icy Wind provides additional speed control, but it is harder to justify over other options.

This Tornadus set should always be paired with Kyogre, as Tornadus pairs excellently with it, providing Tailwind and checking Grass-types such as Venusaur, Amoonguss, and Rillaboom. The rest of the team is typically filled out with Venusaur, as it's a strong answer to Regieleki who is a huge threat to Tornadus and Kyogre, Torkoal because its Drought activates Venusaur's Chlorophyll, and then one or both of the support Pokemon Incineroar or Grimmsnarl. Tornadus should always be paired with Kyogre and helps it greatly by providing Tailwind and checking Grass-types such as Venusaur, Amoonguss, and Rillaboom. Typical partners to this pair include Venusaur to answer Regieleki, Torkoal to enable Chlorophyll Venusaur, and a support Pokemon like Incineroar or Grimmsnarl. Note that the slot of one of the support Pokemon is quite flexible and could instead be something a more offensive Pokemon such as Choice Band Urshifu-S or Regieleki. The former is a powerful threat which that benefits immensly immensely from Tailwind, while the latter appreciates Tornadus's ability to check checking Grass-types.

[SET]
name: Tailwind Support
move 1: Hurricane
move 2: Tailwind
move 3: Taunt
move 4: Protect / Icy Wind / Rain Dance
item: Focus Sash / Wacan Berry / Mental Herb
ability: Prankster
nature: Timid
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Tornadus is an amazing support Pokemon for many Kyogre teams, able to put on incredible offensive pressure with Kyogre,(RC) and support its team most importantly via Tailwind, but also with Taunt and Icy Wind with Tailwind, Taunt, and Icy Wind. Hurricane is a powerful and consistent STAB move under Kyogre's rain,(RC) which also gives Tornadus access to Max Airstream to boost its team's Speed that becomes Max Airstream, letting Tornadus boost its team's Speed. Tailwind is indispensable speed control,(RC) and it's especially strong with Kyogre's Water Spout which can OHKO or 2HKO the majority of the metagame that pairs really well with Water Spout Kyogre. Taunt allows Tornadus to shut down status moves from the likes of Porygon2, Amoonguss, and Venusaur. Icy Wind gives Tornadus additional speed control beyond Tailwind, potentially giving it the upper hand in the face of against opposing Tailwind teams. Rain Dance is useful against the Drought setters like Groudon and Torkoal to turn the battle back into Kyogre's favor. Focus Sash helps Tornadus's middling bulk, allowing it to take any one attack. Wacan Berry's purpose is to help versus Regieleki specifically, and this is especially important considering how threatening it can be to Kyogre teams. One of the few ways to prevent Tornadus from setting up Tailwind is with Prankster Taunt from Whimsicott, however Mental Herb fixes this. Wacan Berry specifically helps against Regieleki, a huge threat to Kyogre teams, while Mental Herb prevents Whimsicott from denying Tailwind with Prankster Taunt.(I am removing the Focus Sash sentence; it is basically dex info rn)

Tornadus should almost always be paired with Kyogre because it lacks much of a niche outside Kyogre teams,(AC) and Tornadus is excellent support to Kyogre, able to provide can support Kyogre by providing speed control and checking Grass-types such as Rillaboom and Venusaur. Both Tornadus and Kyogre are quite vulnerable to Regieleki,(AC) so answers to Regieleki such as Kartana or and Venusaur make good partners. Note that if running Venusaur,(RC) Torkoal should be run alongside it Venusaur to activate Chlorophyll. Tornadus is also great alongside Regieleki,(AC) as it can check troublesome Grass-types for it. Choice Band Urshifu-S is a powerful Pokemon that benefits immensely from Tornadus's Tailwind.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Yourwelcomethanku, 541847]]
- Quality checked by: [[Sole Survivor, 518634]]
- Grammar checked by: [[username1, userid1]]
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