Turtle Force (Oh Grampsie!)

[Disconnectedamilliontimes]

Dang it, I'm like 4 days late for an RMT. Oh well
TEAM PICTURE

I Lied.

Note: This is one of the worst teams I have EVER made. EVER.

Importable

=== [ubers] Turtle Force ===

Fkle (Shuckle) (F) @ Mental Herb
Ability: Sturdy
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SDef
Careful Nature
- Sticky Web
- Toxic
- Encore
- Rock Tomb

Emo (Gothitelle) (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Shadow Tag
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 248 HP / 16 SDef / 244 Spd
Timid Nature
- Rest
- Psychic
- Taunt
- Calm Mind

Palkia @ Lustrous Orb
Ability: Pressure
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
Timid Nature
- Hydro Pump
- Spacial Rend
- Fire Blast
- Thunder Wave

Kyogre @ Choice Specs
Ability: Drizzle
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature
IVs: NaN Atk
- Water Spout
- Surf
- Thunder
- Ice Beam

Lucario (F) @ Lucarionite
Ability: Justified
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 4 Def
Jolly Nature
IVs: NaN SAtk
- Swords Dance
- Close Combat
- Iron Tail
- Bullet Punch

Landorus-Therian @ Leftovers
Ability: Intimidate
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Spd
Adamant Nature
IVs: NaN SAtk
- Stealth Rock
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge
- Explosion

Team *SHUCKLE* Museum

YEAH LETS HEAR IT FOR TEAM SHUCKLEZ

Besides my annoying antics, Shuckle is awesome, not only because it is the only viable turtle in Ubers, but also because it gives birth to a whole new playstyle: Sticky Web

is what holds together this team, especially when you have intergalatic play-thing looking dinosaurs and cool kats, as well as sadistic Creator-destroying emo fans, you have a weird bunch of people slapped together and smiling for the photo shoot.

Anyway a typical play from this team goes like this

Trolliest swag turtle doing fudgecakes to Y-birds and leads :D.

Unfortunately, this turtle has aquaphobia

K, no more images (har har).

Which means the former king of ubers, Kyogre, will forever eat this sticky web (*wink*) turtle as dessert. (sounds great :p)


Now we have what holds this team together as well: Gothitelle, which is inarguably (Inarguable because if you say otherwise the Creator destroyer will kill you :D) the best teammate for Shuckle. No, really. Gothitelle removes all supportceus-donkey-llamma stuff from the game, excluding Darkceus or Ghostceus.

Here is a demonstration from the emo king himself.

Simple enough, ain't it

WORLD ALL SHOOKEN UP

Quote: (from Kazi: Good old Velika. Never use two words when 107 will do.)

Yay, now the last member of our core is Lucario

There was this ridiculously stupid comic that went like this:
Grampa is in front of a computer and a mouse.
Grampa: Whaaaaat? I ain't no touching a rodent, even if it is to stay in touch with technology (Something like that)
Kid: Oh Grampsie!

Caption: OH Yeah WELL I'M NO FUDGING rodent, nor am I a f-ing grampsie!
FEAR MY +2 CLOSE COMBAT WHICH WILL WRECK EVERYTHING BUT STUFF LIKE GIRATINA AND GHOSTCEUS.

Ok I'm exaggerating. Yeah, the list goes on and on, Fairyceus, etc. but that is why lucario has Iron tail and bullet punch. :D

BOOMBOOM ADAPTABILITY +2 ATTACK WITH STAB 120 PERFECT ACC FIGHTING TYPE MOVE *fangirling over the destruction of this thing*

*goes even more crazy when you realize sticky web is there*

I mean seriously, this thing is insane.

The rest of the things are EXTREMELY WELCOME to be changed. Basically I need a balanced offensive core that supports shuckle but lol I suck at teambuilding :D

(Right now I have llamas and kitties and D-do dragons)

Ok. Moving through with my team explanations...

If Only. Just don't ----le with shuckle

Fkle (Shuckle) (F) @ Mental Herb
Ability: Sturdy
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SDef
Careful Nature
- Sticky Web
- Toxic
- Encore
- Rock Tomb

STICKY!!! :D
WEB :D
Anyway blah blah blah blah sticky web slows down enemies toxic cripples things that think they can get a free switch-in, encore is the trolly move that makes you continuously use a move, and rock tomb is there because it makes Yveltal Taunt switchins think twice and it is a move to use while taunted. Speaking of taunts, Mental Herb is here to survive a taunt and setup sticky web. MAX HP and Sdef to maximize special bulk, and with 230 Sdef it can tank a whole lotta stuff. Shuckle supports Gothitelle, enabling it to defeat Arceus and it also supports Lucario, which now can comfortably destroy Darkrai, ScarfGenesect, etc.

Emo (Gothitelle) (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Shadow Tag
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 248 HP / 16 SDef / 244 Spd
Timid Nature
- Rest
- Psychic
- Taunt
- Calm Mind
Gothitelle is VERY underrated. Gothitelle is basically the best thing on earth for Shuckle, because it removes the most annoying defoggers in ubers: Creator-ceus. How? Well, with these EVs, Gothitelle can outspeed Max Speed boosting nature Arceus (don't know why they would be running that but oh well) in sticky web. Then, CM Wars begin. Gothitelle is surprisingly bulky as well. Rest to heal, and Psychic as an attacking option. Shadow Tag stops Arceus from switching, so it is guaranteed that the supportceus will die.

KAWAII

Palkia @ Lustrous Orb
Ability: Pressure
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
Timid Nature
- Hydro Pump
- Spacial Rend
- Fire Blast
- Thunder Wave

Oh my goodness. Palkia again? Since my last Uber RMT, I still have Palkia. This is a testament to how godly Palkia is and how useful it is. It checks Kyogre, one of the biggest threats to this team, and can stop choice Zekrom 95% of the time in Sticky Web. Thunder Wave for GeoXern switching in, and the rest of the set is standard. Fire Blast to roast Scizor and Ferrothorn, and scarfSect in sticky web. Palkia does a lot for this team.

MEOWWWWW.


Kyogre @ Choice Specs
Ability: Drizzle
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature
IVs: NaN Atk
- Water Spout
- Surf
- Thunder
- Ice Beam
KYOGRE WHOOOOOO
XTREMEKILLER ARCEUS. OMFG. Well its kind of obvious I'd use this beast. Overheat to catch common checks like Megazor in the bug net and Shadow Claw for pesky Giratina. Extremespeed for STAB and priority in one. EVs work in Sticky Web, max atk, blah. I was considering changing Extreme Speed because I have Sticky Web already, and Return might do a better job, but I dunno :D. This is my cleaner and sweeper, which wrecks everything lategame

This is how Lucario Charges is Adaptability.

Lucario (F) @ Lucarionite
Ability: Justified
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 4 Def
Jolly Nature
IVs: null SAtk
- Swords Dance
- Close Combat
- Iron Tail
- Bullet Punch
I just wanna mention one thing; Shiny Lucario in aura cloak = Super saiyan?
Anyway this thing is beast in ubers. It was banned in ou early on because it was THAT broken. Heck, unboosted Lucario can dent a load of pokemon in ubers, who all have tectonic uninvested defense stats. At +2, which is reasonably easier than it may seem because of how many switches Lucario forces, Lucario destroys everything. In Sticky Web, scarfers and Fast mons like Mewtwo and Darkrai are utterly destroyed. The only way to stop Lucario is priority, and Lucario resists the three common ones: Bullet Punch, Extreme Speed, and Sucker Punch. GG bro, juke nuke.

Landorus-Therian @ Earth Plate
Ability: Intimidate
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Spd
Adamant Nature
IVs: null SAtk
- Stealth Rock
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge
- Explosion

One of the best physical walls in Ubers, its stats may not show a beast, but its ability is what makes it a tiger king in the jungle of Ubers: Intimidate. With it, Landorus can check dangerous threats like Zekrom while also providing a way out against strong physical attackers. This tiger can also Toxic pokemon and set up Stealth Rock. Yay :D. Edgequake for coverage, and EvSpread is welcome to be changed because this is more of a offensive team than a defensive team, and my set is a defensive one :(.







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As usual, suggestions are welcome, especially for my offensive core, which needs improvement.

Thank you for reading and I hope you post a rate :D.

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[Hack]

aint too bad of a team, use Explosion Lando-T to prevent Defog. Your spread is also sub optimal, and you should run LO as the damage output needs to be jacked up when using teams like this.

Having Lucario on the team means you can possibly use another mon that Arceus-Normal, as the priority isn't exactly needed. You could probably use a stronger wallbreaker like specs Kyogre or a fast taunter like LO Mewtwo over it. Yveltal is also possible to use as does help against ghosts that could be threatening to your team (rare sub cm ghostceus sets up turn 1 and sweeps). The change is quite optimal as the usage of Arceus-Normal leaves you weak to few things in the meta (weaknesses rn include stuff like phys def ho-oh, dtail lugia and ghosts incase you were wondering).

glhf

 

[haxiom]

Hey Disconnectedamilliontimes,

Nice team. Js that was kinda hard to read cuz the pics. Also I have a kinda similar team too. Anyways. As Hack pointed out, there are a lot of suboptimal sets here, which can and should be fixed. One issue I see here is a game plan versus other sticky web teams. That's going to throw you on equal footing and that's pretty annoying. Alternately, opposing ditto that lead against you will pretty much mess up your game, as your team is designed to function under webs. The other notable threats would be Darkrai and Yveltal, the latter of which is tough for web teams to deal with generally, and the former anti-leads Shuckle and you have no sleep absorber.

As for fixing things, yeah I feel like Ekiller can easily be changed. Maybe Yveltal as Hack said, it would also help against opposing web teams and ghosts, while using the quicker taunt it gets from webs. You could also throw sleep talk on something to help against Darkrai. I would possibly throw it on Palkia, and while I know it likes all its moves, it is probably the most effective user of it. Or actually Lando-T gets it too but it's not that good on him. As for Yveltal- I'm not sure the best course of action to take against it because it is one of biggest threats to web in general.

OPTIMIZATION:

Shuckle- fine

Gothitelle- Psyshock > Psychic, it beats CM Arceus better and stuff. You need at least 40+ SDef to reliable switch in to and set up on Support Arceus also. Too lazy to find how much it needs to speed creep, but you could try that too.

Palkia- How necessary is all that speed investment? Neutral 168(maybe 172 not sure) will outspeed MM2Y, but 108(or 112, not sure again) outspeeds base 130s. Sleep Talk > something?

Arceus- What are you speed creeping to? I'm not sure what you need tbh.

Luke- I feel it lacks setup chances, maybe SE > SD

Lando-T- LO max speed max attack w/ Explosion > Toxic

Overall good team.

Good luck!

 

[Disconnectedamilliontimes]

TY
Haxiom Thank you for your support, but I've already taken care of the speed creeping on Gothitelle ;).
And I might try Psyshock, but the whole point of Gothitelle is to Taunt the Arceus so it can't defog (or CM or WoW).

Stone Edge tried already. SD works when you force a switch.
Palkia speed investment cuz it is used to stop Kyogres when sitcky web is not available.


Hack He Must
I will change Landorus to offensive :D
Testing Specs Kyogre. Should be beast in Sticky Web.

 

[haxiom]

Haxiom Thank you for your support, but I've already taken care of the speed creeping on Gothitelle ;).

There really aren't many max speed support arceus. On a side note, adding Kyogre could mean that Goth could help it by removing Palkia. It does need SDef investment though. I can see where max speed CM Arceus might exist, but idk if that creep is most effective.

And I might try Psyshock, but the whole point of Gothitelle is to Taunt the Arceus so it can't defog (or CM or WoW).

Fair enough. Psyshock is more reliable in CM wars, but I guess Psychic is a bit stronger in general. The only notable calc I see is:
+6 0 SpA Gothitelle Psychic vs. 248 HP / 0 SpD Ho-Oh: 255-300 (61.4 - 72.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+6 0 SpA Gothitelle Psyshock vs. 248 HP / 0 Def Ho-Oh: 360-424 (86.7 - 102.1%) -- 18.8% chance to OHKO

Stone Edge tried already. SD works when you force a switch.

SD is fine I suppose. I will say that Lando-T doesn't love risking the burn on Ho-Oh so SE could add a bit of help with that. However, keeping SD is perfectly fine.

Palkia speed investment cuz it is used to stop Kyogres when sitcky web is not available.

You are slower than scarfogre regardless without web. Under web (so given that web negates scarf), it only needs 176+ Spd to outspeed Kyogre, however keeping 252+ is good now that I look at it because you like outspeeding Yveltal (although it does have Sucker Punch). The only other thing that it matters at all for would be ScarfXern which is pretty rare.

EDIT: erm on a side note you technically weren't supposed to post another RMT until 2 weeks after the last post on your last RMT if I understand the rules right. Ofc I'm not a mod so I won't argue but just fyi

 

[Disconnectedamilliontimes]

haxiom

xD
Yes
My last rmt was on a sunday
I posted this on tuesday/wedneday something xD

I was talking about specskyogre not scarf :/

Because idiots lead with Kyogre and I can't shuckle lead, I instead use Palkia to kill Kyogre first, which means sticky web isn't up.

 

[haxiom]

Why can't you lead shuckle vs kyogre?

 

[Disconnectedamilliontimes]

NECRO BUMP
Anyway its because kyogre goes trololol Water Spout and shuckle dies. Then I don't have backup Sticky Web in case they pull off a rapid spin.

 

[haxiom]

Well ideally on a team like this you have to keep pressure ofc ik its not always possible but idk it doesn't matter that much (does modest even get any notable kills?)

 

[haxiom]

Goth is actually kinda cool on web teams since it removes support arc. And lol sry for ninjas steel

 

[haxiom]

I see. In certain scenarios goth is better, mostly since it has taunt but I concede your point

Edit actually I think goth can trap palkia which is cool with ogre