great title i know
This is the second ubers team I ever used, the first being a generic Ho-oh team with Groudon and foretress. I got bored of it and moved onto this. I created this team to showcase lead Abomasnow and it got me onto the Ubers leaderboard and used this name and several other alts such as Kyle Butler and Brian Moser to test. Its pretty offensive and wins most of its battles vs offense but against stall it struggles a bit. I need help so I can comfortably handle stall and still mantain efficiency
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Brian Moser the Ice truck killer
Modest nature /208 Att/ 252 SpA/ 48 Spe
~ Blizzard
~ Grass Knot
~ Ice Shard
~ Hidden Power Fire 70
This is a lead I conjured up that wont particularly prevent any other leads from setting up Stealth rock but will about 90% of the time put me at 1-0, giving me an advantage in the match, and sometimes with sash in tact. The reason why Aboma is such a good priority lead is because of hail taking 6% of the opposing pokemon. Due to the low number of ice pokemon used in ubers it helps wearing down LO Ray and RP Groudon. Against most bulky leads in the uber tier such as Groudon, Kyogre and Giratina, Aboma will come out on top. Against fragile leads such as Shaymin-S and Deoxys (besides D) he will also come out on top. The only leads I struggle with are Mew sometimes, Darkrai and the bad ass Hariyama lead. Scizor and Foretress are KOed most of the time when switching into Blizzard followed by HP fire.
Changes: I run HP fire and 48 Speed to outspeed no speed Scizor, common switch in. HP fire doesnt KO but after Blizzard switch in and hail it does. I am thinking about using Magic coat to screw around with Darkrai as the steels aren't a major problem for my team.
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sgt. Debra Morgan
Timid nature 4HP/ 252 SpA/ 252 Spe
~ Water Spout
~ Ice Beam
~ Thunder
~ Surf
yep standard specs Ogre, the thing every team has to prepare for. Can 2HKO most things in the game such as Blissey with water spout and 4X resists such as Palkia and Kingdra take like 40%. Wears things down I guess. Very solid answer to Ho-Oh/ Groudon/ Forry teams, because of this if i see a Ho-Oh early I will spam thunder or ice beam expecting a Palkia or Giratina switch in. timid to outspeed max speed groudon and Ho-Oh, however rare they might be, also other Ogre. Its a prediction pokemon pretty much. Gives me a nice steel/ water/ dragon offensive core with Giratina and scizor
Changes: every other kyogre set
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Arthur Mitchell the Trinity killer
Impish nature/ 252 HP/ 56 Att/ 122 Def/ 80 Spe
~ Earthquake
~ Toxic
~ Stone Edge
~ Stealth Rock
So not many people run toxic Groudon nowadays but i think it is a great mon to lure in Lugia and Giratinas w/o rest and cripple them for the rest of the match. EQ + Stone Edge= nice coverage and Stealth Rock is for the team because Groudon is a team playa yo. I forget what 80 speed was for though. Groudon is my check to Lucario, Scizor and 80% of other physical pokemon. the sun helps when dealing with pokemon such as MixedKingdra and sometimes Kabutops.
Changes: not a lot, the EV spread needs fixing
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secret agent Lundy
Timid? /4 HP/ 252 SpA/ 252 Spe
~ substitute
~ calm mind
~ dragon Pulse
~ Aura Sphere
So here is a great stallbreaker, sometimes better than Mixed + Outrage as Forry cant set up on it. Also beats Blissey who only have Seismic toss as an attack and after a sub Ice beam hardly does anything. Aura Sphere is for Tyranitar who has switched in quite a lot. max speed is for other Giratinas and base 90s. Could use a bit less though im not sure. not really using it as a spinblocker, however sometimes I wonder If I should switch it for the original Giratina, it has leftovers recovery and is bulkier, but im not sure. Tend to leave him till late game after sun or rain is set up so I dont lose health each turn. Named after Lundy cos hes a rock star secret agent and stuff and also last one standing (until he is killed by Trinity OH IRONY)
Changes: Original Giratina
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Miguel Prado
Adamant/ 200 hP/ 56 att/ 252 SpD
~ Roost
~ Bullet Punch
~ U-Turn
~ Pursuit
So Roost is the important move you can ever have on a specially defensive Scizor, because there is so much drago Meteors and Spacial Rends flying around and Scizor is who I go to to take them (sometimes Dialga). Bullet Punch weakens Rayquaza and is very useful against shit like Skymin and other stupid things like Abomasnow. Actually really good with Giratina because it easily switches into Scarf Palkia Dragon moves and Giratina can easily switch into physical walls. Pursuit is for Giratina in case he is on -2 and its raining also use it against Mewtwo sometimes and Blissey. U turn is general scouting obviously. Hits Lugia while it roosts. U turns out of Wobb (make sure not at >70%). Scizor is my first switch in to Dragon type attacks from scarfed pokemon aimed at Giratina such as Palkia and Dialga. Because Aboma prevents spikes from being set up most of the time, The only entry hazard that will chip away at scizors health will be SR, and it can comfortably take a hit with >50% remaining.
Changes: Leftovers maybe, Superpower for Bliss and Dialga
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Dexter Morgan
Hasty/ 4 att/ 252 spA/ 252 spe
~ Draco Meteor
~ Thunder
~ Fire Blast
~ Outrage
Dialga is my revenge killer. Usefull in so many ways, for example KOing Lati@s with outrage and 2Hkoing Blissey sometimes. I split the EVs for a few reasons. Number one was Blissey. blissey would switch in easily when i did not have outrage and use toxic on my switch to another pokemon, which was really annoying. Outrage also helps against pokemon that use Calm Mind, such as CM Mewtwo and a lesser extent offensive CM Lugia. Number two is it acts as a lure of sorts. If the opponent knows I have outrage, they might switch to a groudon or steel type, which i can nail with Draco meteor or Fire Blast on the switch (sometimes Thunder). While Dialga has proved useful in the past, he comes with fare share of frustrations. Being the core with MK1 of this team was groudon/ support dialga and Scizor, I was swept by SD Rayquaza with Waterfall. That was before I added Giratina to the team, and now Ray has very little chances to set up, so I am looking for something from raters that can handle the threats that this team faces while still maintaining a revenge killer role of sorts.
bold is what I struggle with
Kyogre: CM rest talk hurts me a bit, although giratina can handle it to an extent. Specs can be played around with Giratina and Dialga, and Dialga can hit it with outrage (for CM) or hit it with Thunder (for Specs, scarf etc.) Abomasnow also fares decently, if he is still alive when Kyogre is revealled.
Groudon: Giratina mostly, he can live a Dragon Claw and hit it with dragon pulse. Kyogre cant come in but can dail it with surf. RP is handled by Giratina, if Dpulse doesnt KO then LO recoil and scizor can finish it off. If it lacks A fire move or Stone edge Aboma is also a shaky check.
Palkia: doesnt cause much problems, choiced versions are played through resistances and if its not choiced then dialga can revenge kill.
Darkrai: ugh I will go to Groudon to take the sleep. Scizor canhandle it decently when sleep clause is up, as of yet I have not seen a sub version. Dalga can also revenge
Rayquaza: Ray is handle by Scizor, Scarfed Dialga and to a lesser extent Groudon. Mixed versions might get a kill off but I usualy go to scizor to scout the dragon move and they SD, then EQ as I BP and what not. Dealt with pretty easily.
Dialga: Groudon handles Bulk up, choiced versions are handled by making a switch on the appropriate move, Support versions handled somewhat by Groudon as they normally lack Draco Meteor and Dpulse cant KO, mixed sets....is smart switching around with Draco meteor and its SpA drops.
Mewtwo: Scizor hates burn and Flamethrower but apart from that its all good, Dialga can revenge, CM cant really set up, If for some reason I know its DS i can go to giratina and set up alongside it kinda if it doesnt have taunt but Dual Screen is a bitch
Deoxys: Ok so if its a lead it dies ti aboma, if its not it dies to scizor
Wobbuffet: eh Scizors U turn, Kyogres water spout (at full health), mind games with encore/ mirror coat/ counter involving Giratina and Dialga. usually comes in on Groudon
Garchomp: garchomp is a threat. Scarfchomp mosty. Can revenge All of my scarfers and Scizor is normally gone when the dragon moves come out. If Aboma is still alive Ice shard for some damage. If its not scarfed, Dialga.
Scizor: too weak offensivley, Groudon stops it cold, also like Kyogre, Giratina and Dialga. not a threat at all.
Lugia: Now this is a defensive threat. lugia can stall out most of my team and annoy me with Whirlwind and Relect. Groudon can nail it with toxic, Scizor can U turn on a roost, kyogre can spam thunder and hope for paralysis, Dialga can do the same to a lesser extent. the main issue is whirlwind.
Blissey: 'tina sets up on it, suprise outrage from Dialga, cant come in on Kyogres Water spout, Groudon and Scizor can handle it somewhat
Giratina: actually its pretty rare outside of stall, Dialga can hit it hard, also Giratina-O can revenge I guess, Groudon can toxic non Rest talk sets but i dont usually due to will-o-wisp. Aboma also to a lesser extent
Forretress: tina spin blocks without payback, Kyogre surfs it, Dialga fore blasts it, but it usualy only comes in on Aboma in which it dies to HP fire
Deoxys-A: scizor revenges, thats just about it, physical versions can be stopped somewhat by Groudon, special versiosn leave me fucked, I really dont know since i never see it out of the lead spot, but most of the time pursuit or bullet punch from scizor
Latias: Dialga revenges, Scizor can handle at full heatlh and if it does not have HP fire, or sometimes if its raining.
Shaymin-s: aaaaaa Scizor usually, and Dialga can revenge, although Subseed is hell without these guys and Aboma can get some damage in with Ice shard and it actually cant KO it with air slash,
Giratina-o: Dialga revenges but sub versions are painful, luckily the only things it is setting up on is Kyogres Thunder. Mixed stes are handled by safe switching between Scizor on the DM then to Dialga on the HP fire. My Giratina is faster than mixed sets.
Latios: see latias just hits harder
Lucario: Groudon can survive a +2 close combat (i think), Giratina hits with Aura Sphere, and Dialga avoids Extreme Speed with that steel typing and can hurt it with Fire Blast. Whenall comes to worst, LO recoil and priority can wear it down. not much of a threat
Tyranitar: Groudon. Kyogre. Aboma changes the weather. Scizor. Cant really hurt much, two aura spheres KO it from giratina
Mew: I hate baton pass mew with a passion. Also lead mew is very annoying. I usually go to groudon and then Giratina when they explode. Giratina is also a nice switch into baton passers but doesnt like taunt. Scizor can uturn out, only to face like a recipient groudon, that duo pissed me of
Metagross: Groudon mosty, can even survive explosion iirc. then giratina to a lesser extent and scarfed Dialga, then Kyogres surf
Ho-oh: Another massive threat. I cant switch anything in at all. Luckily most ho-oh teams are generic. Kyogre is the only one but cant switch in at all. Groudon can take one hit and deliver a Stone Edge
Skarmory: everything pretty much bar Groudon and Skarmory, and maybe Aboma.
Ninjask: Giratina can set up on it, Aboma will beat it as a lead.
Rain Dancers: Groudon can handle Kingdra decently, sun hindles the speed and abilities of water pokemon like Ludicolo
tl;dr rate my team
This is the second ubers team I ever used, the first being a generic Ho-oh team with Groudon and foretress. I got bored of it and moved onto this. I created this team to showcase lead Abomasnow and it got me onto the Ubers leaderboard and used this name and several other alts such as Kyle Butler and Brian Moser to test. Its pretty offensive and wins most of its battles vs offense but against stall it struggles a bit. I need help so I can comfortably handle stall and still mantain efficiency
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Brian Moser the Ice truck killer
Modest nature /208 Att/ 252 SpA/ 48 Spe
~ Blizzard
~ Grass Knot
~ Ice Shard
~ Hidden Power Fire 70
This is a lead I conjured up that wont particularly prevent any other leads from setting up Stealth rock but will about 90% of the time put me at 1-0, giving me an advantage in the match, and sometimes with sash in tact. The reason why Aboma is such a good priority lead is because of hail taking 6% of the opposing pokemon. Due to the low number of ice pokemon used in ubers it helps wearing down LO Ray and RP Groudon. Against most bulky leads in the uber tier such as Groudon, Kyogre and Giratina, Aboma will come out on top. Against fragile leads such as Shaymin-S and Deoxys (besides D) he will also come out on top. The only leads I struggle with are Mew sometimes, Darkrai and the bad ass Hariyama lead. Scizor and Foretress are KOed most of the time when switching into Blizzard followed by HP fire.
Changes: I run HP fire and 48 Speed to outspeed no speed Scizor, common switch in. HP fire doesnt KO but after Blizzard switch in and hail it does. I am thinking about using Magic coat to screw around with Darkrai as the steels aren't a major problem for my team.
sgt. Debra Morgan
Timid nature 4HP/ 252 SpA/ 252 Spe
~ Water Spout
~ Ice Beam
~ Thunder
~ Surf
yep standard specs Ogre, the thing every team has to prepare for. Can 2HKO most things in the game such as Blissey with water spout and 4X resists such as Palkia and Kingdra take like 40%. Wears things down I guess. Very solid answer to Ho-Oh/ Groudon/ Forry teams, because of this if i see a Ho-Oh early I will spam thunder or ice beam expecting a Palkia or Giratina switch in. timid to outspeed max speed groudon and Ho-Oh, however rare they might be, also other Ogre. Its a prediction pokemon pretty much. Gives me a nice steel/ water/ dragon offensive core with Giratina and scizor
Changes: every other kyogre set
Arthur Mitchell the Trinity killer
Impish nature/ 252 HP/ 56 Att/ 122 Def/ 80 Spe
~ Earthquake
~ Toxic
~ Stone Edge
~ Stealth Rock
So not many people run toxic Groudon nowadays but i think it is a great mon to lure in Lugia and Giratinas w/o rest and cripple them for the rest of the match. EQ + Stone Edge= nice coverage and Stealth Rock is for the team because Groudon is a team playa yo. I forget what 80 speed was for though. Groudon is my check to Lucario, Scizor and 80% of other physical pokemon. the sun helps when dealing with pokemon such as MixedKingdra and sometimes Kabutops.
Changes: not a lot, the EV spread needs fixing
secret agent Lundy
Timid? /4 HP/ 252 SpA/ 252 Spe
~ substitute
~ calm mind
~ dragon Pulse
~ Aura Sphere
So here is a great stallbreaker, sometimes better than Mixed + Outrage as Forry cant set up on it. Also beats Blissey who only have Seismic toss as an attack and after a sub Ice beam hardly does anything. Aura Sphere is for Tyranitar who has switched in quite a lot. max speed is for other Giratinas and base 90s. Could use a bit less though im not sure. not really using it as a spinblocker, however sometimes I wonder If I should switch it for the original Giratina, it has leftovers recovery and is bulkier, but im not sure. Tend to leave him till late game after sun or rain is set up so I dont lose health each turn. Named after Lundy cos hes a rock star secret agent and stuff and also last one standing (until he is killed by Trinity OH IRONY)
Changes: Original Giratina
Miguel Prado
Adamant/ 200 hP/ 56 att/ 252 SpD
~ Roost
~ Bullet Punch
~ U-Turn
~ Pursuit
So Roost is the important move you can ever have on a specially defensive Scizor, because there is so much drago Meteors and Spacial Rends flying around and Scizor is who I go to to take them (sometimes Dialga). Bullet Punch weakens Rayquaza and is very useful against shit like Skymin and other stupid things like Abomasnow. Actually really good with Giratina because it easily switches into Scarf Palkia Dragon moves and Giratina can easily switch into physical walls. Pursuit is for Giratina in case he is on -2 and its raining also use it against Mewtwo sometimes and Blissey. U turn is general scouting obviously. Hits Lugia while it roosts. U turns out of Wobb (make sure not at >70%). Scizor is my first switch in to Dragon type attacks from scarfed pokemon aimed at Giratina such as Palkia and Dialga. Because Aboma prevents spikes from being set up most of the time, The only entry hazard that will chip away at scizors health will be SR, and it can comfortably take a hit with >50% remaining.
Changes: Leftovers maybe, Superpower for Bliss and Dialga
Dexter Morgan
Hasty/ 4 att/ 252 spA/ 252 spe
~ Draco Meteor
~ Thunder
~ Fire Blast
~ Outrage
Dialga is my revenge killer. Usefull in so many ways, for example KOing Lati@s with outrage and 2Hkoing Blissey sometimes. I split the EVs for a few reasons. Number one was Blissey. blissey would switch in easily when i did not have outrage and use toxic on my switch to another pokemon, which was really annoying. Outrage also helps against pokemon that use Calm Mind, such as CM Mewtwo and a lesser extent offensive CM Lugia. Number two is it acts as a lure of sorts. If the opponent knows I have outrage, they might switch to a groudon or steel type, which i can nail with Draco meteor or Fire Blast on the switch (sometimes Thunder). While Dialga has proved useful in the past, he comes with fare share of frustrations. Being the core with MK1 of this team was groudon/ support dialga and Scizor, I was swept by SD Rayquaza with Waterfall. That was before I added Giratina to the team, and now Ray has very little chances to set up, so I am looking for something from raters that can handle the threats that this team faces while still maintaining a revenge killer role of sorts.
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thats my team. rate away. i know that some of the EVs, movesets and items need help. Threat list is down
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Threat list like promisedthats my team. rate away. i know that some of the EVs, movesets and items need help. Threat list is down
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bold is what I struggle with
Kyogre: CM rest talk hurts me a bit, although giratina can handle it to an extent. Specs can be played around with Giratina and Dialga, and Dialga can hit it with outrage (for CM) or hit it with Thunder (for Specs, scarf etc.) Abomasnow also fares decently, if he is still alive when Kyogre is revealled.
Groudon: Giratina mostly, he can live a Dragon Claw and hit it with dragon pulse. Kyogre cant come in but can dail it with surf. RP is handled by Giratina, if Dpulse doesnt KO then LO recoil and scizor can finish it off. If it lacks A fire move or Stone edge Aboma is also a shaky check.
Palkia: doesnt cause much problems, choiced versions are played through resistances and if its not choiced then dialga can revenge kill.
Darkrai: ugh I will go to Groudon to take the sleep. Scizor canhandle it decently when sleep clause is up, as of yet I have not seen a sub version. Dalga can also revenge
Rayquaza: Ray is handle by Scizor, Scarfed Dialga and to a lesser extent Groudon. Mixed versions might get a kill off but I usualy go to scizor to scout the dragon move and they SD, then EQ as I BP and what not. Dealt with pretty easily.
Dialga: Groudon handles Bulk up, choiced versions are handled by making a switch on the appropriate move, Support versions handled somewhat by Groudon as they normally lack Draco Meteor and Dpulse cant KO, mixed sets....is smart switching around with Draco meteor and its SpA drops.
Mewtwo: Scizor hates burn and Flamethrower but apart from that its all good, Dialga can revenge, CM cant really set up, If for some reason I know its DS i can go to giratina and set up alongside it kinda if it doesnt have taunt but Dual Screen is a bitch
Deoxys: Ok so if its a lead it dies ti aboma, if its not it dies to scizor
Wobbuffet: eh Scizors U turn, Kyogres water spout (at full health), mind games with encore/ mirror coat/ counter involving Giratina and Dialga. usually comes in on Groudon
Garchomp: garchomp is a threat. Scarfchomp mosty. Can revenge All of my scarfers and Scizor is normally gone when the dragon moves come out. If Aboma is still alive Ice shard for some damage. If its not scarfed, Dialga.
Scizor: too weak offensivley, Groudon stops it cold, also like Kyogre, Giratina and Dialga. not a threat at all.
Lugia: Now this is a defensive threat. lugia can stall out most of my team and annoy me with Whirlwind and Relect. Groudon can nail it with toxic, Scizor can U turn on a roost, kyogre can spam thunder and hope for paralysis, Dialga can do the same to a lesser extent. the main issue is whirlwind.
Blissey: 'tina sets up on it, suprise outrage from Dialga, cant come in on Kyogres Water spout, Groudon and Scizor can handle it somewhat
Giratina: actually its pretty rare outside of stall, Dialga can hit it hard, also Giratina-O can revenge I guess, Groudon can toxic non Rest talk sets but i dont usually due to will-o-wisp. Aboma also to a lesser extent
Forretress: tina spin blocks without payback, Kyogre surfs it, Dialga fore blasts it, but it usualy only comes in on Aboma in which it dies to HP fire
Deoxys-A: scizor revenges, thats just about it, physical versions can be stopped somewhat by Groudon, special versiosn leave me fucked, I really dont know since i never see it out of the lead spot, but most of the time pursuit or bullet punch from scizor
Latias: Dialga revenges, Scizor can handle at full heatlh and if it does not have HP fire, or sometimes if its raining.
Shaymin-s: aaaaaa Scizor usually, and Dialga can revenge, although Subseed is hell without these guys and Aboma can get some damage in with Ice shard and it actually cant KO it with air slash,
Giratina-o: Dialga revenges but sub versions are painful, luckily the only things it is setting up on is Kyogres Thunder. Mixed stes are handled by safe switching between Scizor on the DM then to Dialga on the HP fire. My Giratina is faster than mixed sets.
Latios: see latias just hits harder
Lucario: Groudon can survive a +2 close combat (i think), Giratina hits with Aura Sphere, and Dialga avoids Extreme Speed with that steel typing and can hurt it with Fire Blast. Whenall comes to worst, LO recoil and priority can wear it down. not much of a threat
Tyranitar: Groudon. Kyogre. Aboma changes the weather. Scizor. Cant really hurt much, two aura spheres KO it from giratina
Mew: I hate baton pass mew with a passion. Also lead mew is very annoying. I usually go to groudon and then Giratina when they explode. Giratina is also a nice switch into baton passers but doesnt like taunt. Scizor can uturn out, only to face like a recipient groudon, that duo pissed me of
Metagross: Groudon mosty, can even survive explosion iirc. then giratina to a lesser extent and scarfed Dialga, then Kyogres surf
Ho-oh: Another massive threat. I cant switch anything in at all. Luckily most ho-oh teams are generic. Kyogre is the only one but cant switch in at all. Groudon can take one hit and deliver a Stone Edge
Skarmory: everything pretty much bar Groudon and Skarmory, and maybe Aboma.
Ninjask: Giratina can set up on it, Aboma will beat it as a lead.
Rain Dancers: Groudon can handle Kingdra decently, sun hindles the speed and abilities of water pokemon like Ludicolo
tl;dr rate my team
