uburz rain (my first ubers team ever)

[theGforce]

hello everybody
since this is my first rmt it may contain a few mistakes and ever since i'm not good at writing intros, we'll start :)

at a glance

in depth:

Kyogre @ leftovers
252hp/252spatt./4spe, modest
surf
calm mind
ice beam
thunder

surf for stab
calm mind to boost
icebeam for dragons
and thunder just for the funn of it
aah buky kyogre
rain, nuff said

zekrom @ choice scarf
252sp.att/252spe./4hp, modest
volt switch
thunder
draco meteor
focus blast

volt switch for scouting while dealing a great amount of damage
thunder for power and stab
draco for stab and beating the dragons
focus blast for ferros and things like that
this thing is a beast, when i have a safe switch in, i volt switch to a counter and because it is not mixed it is modest and that helps too, he usually doesnt take damage the whole match until he's my last poke

mewto @ expert belt
252sp.att/252pse/4hp, timid
psystrike
icebeam
aura sphere
thunder

psystrike for some powerfull stab
icebeam for dragons
aura sphere for ferro and darkrai
thunder just for fun ^^

awesome, some just die because it is so darn powerful :)others die bcoz they let me set up on them
there is not much to say about it, it's just awesome

forretress @ leftovers
252hp/176def/80sp.def, impish
stealth rocks
rapid spin
volt switch
protect

pretty simple, this thing is there to wall things like zekrom
with spikes for pokes that switch a lot
rapid spin to protect mine from toxic or sr or spikes damage
eq to hurt zekrom
protect for some lefties recovery
this thing is here to wall physical dragons and to rapid spin but that's about it
i guess it could be replaced by ferro but that gives my team a fighting weakness extra, and i don't really want that

arceus @ silk scarf
240hp/252att/16spe, adamant
swords dance
exterme speed
earth quake
shadow claw

extremekiller arceus, my physical dude. simple, sd once and if possible twice then sweep, eq for steels resisting es and shadow claw for ghosts immune to es. the hp investment for some bulk+raw power+some speed for the heck of it.

sableye @ leftovers
252hp/252def/4spdef, timid
will-o-wisp
recover
taunt
night shade

my extremekiller arceus counter. first will-o-wisp when he swords dances. then taunt to prevent it from setting up more SD's. then recover til he switches. night shade for damage(doesnt work on arceus but ah well, he will switch anyways =)

i thank you in advance for commenting and rating this team

i hope you enjoyed

ps english is not my mother tongue so it is possible that it contains grammar or spelling mistakes, sorry for that!

things in red are edited :), things in purple are edited twice ^^

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[asterat]

Definitely make zekrom physical

 

[LighTz911]

hello everybody
since this is my first rmt it may contain a few mistakes and ever since i'm not good at writing intros, we'll start :)

at a glance

in depth:

Kyogre @ leftovers
252sp.att./252spe./4hp, timid
surf
hidden power ground
ice beam
thunder

surf for stab
hp ground for zekroms who dont see it coming (risky but effective )
icebeam for dragons
and thunder just for the funn of it
what seems a bulky kyogre is an offensive one, it helped me a lot on po when i surprizekilled lots of pokes

Replace Hidden Power for Water Spout and make Kyogre Choice Specs. If you don't want to, replace it for Thunderwave. Hidden Power Ground is useless as Ice Beam hits Zekrom anyway.

zekrom @ choice scarf
252sp.att/252spe./4hp, modest
volt switch
thunder
draco meteor
focus blast

volt switch for scouting while dealing a great amount of damage
thunder for power and stab
draco for stab and beating the dragons
focus blast for ferros and things like that
this thing is a beast, when i have a safe switch in, i volt switch to a counter and because it is not mixed it is modest and that helps too, he usually doesnt take damage the whole match until he's my last poke

Make Zekrom physical. 252 Attack / 252 Speed Jolly / Adamant. Use Bolt Strike over Thunder and Outrage over Draco Meteor. Also change Focus Blast to something else such as Dragon Claw. If you don't like Ferrothorns, just Volt Switch out of it and go to your counter.

mewto @ expert belt
252sp.att/252pse/4hp, modest
psystrike
icebeam
aura sphere
grass knot

psystrike for some powerfull stab
icebeam for dragons
aura sphere for ferro and darkrai
grass knot for opposing kyogre or groudon

awesome, some people think he's specs and then die from a move they didn't expect, others just die because it is so darn powerful :)
there is not much to say about it, it's just awesome

Definitely use Life Orb over Expert Belt. Mewtwo kind of needs the power given by it. Also, Calm Mind over Grass Knot. Psystrike hits Kyogre, and Ice Beam kills Groudons. Also Timid, or else Darkrais outspeed you and KO you. If you use Life Orb, the power difference shouldn't matter.

forretress @ leftovers
252hp/176def/80sp.def, relaxed
spikes
rapid spin
gyro ball
protect

pretty simple, this thing is there to wall things like zekrom
with spikes for pokes that switch a lot
rapid spin to protect mine from toxic or sr or spikes damage
gyro ball for damage
protect for some lefties recovery
this thing is here to wall physical dragons and to rapid spin but that's about it
i guess it could be replaced by ferro but that gives my team a fighting weakness extra, and i don't really want that

Use Stealth Rock over Spikes or Protect. If going for Spikes, use Volt Switch over Protect. Volt Switch gives your sweepers a free turn and helps scout better.

arceus @ silk scarf
240hp/252att/16spe, adamant
swords dance
exterme speed
earth quake
shadow claw

extremekiller arceus, my physical dude. simple, sd once and if possible twice then sweep, eq for steels resisting es and shadow claw for ghosts immune to es. the hp investment for some bulk+raw power+some speed for the heck of it.

This is okay.

latias @ soul dew
252hp/4sp.att/252spe, timid
calm mind
recover
dragon pulse
thunder

my somesort of special wall, to be replaced. with soul dew, special attacks won't do anything. (icebeam from deoxys attack, probably max spatt., just 40%, and that without any special defense investment!) calm mind to boost your spdef and spatt even further, recover for healing in the proces dragon pulse for stab and thunder for some coverage
this pokemon needs to be replaced. without this poke i haven't got 2 weaknesses from the same type this one makes that 5 so...

So is this.

i thank you in advance for commenting and rating this team

i hope you enjoyed

ps english is not my mother tongue so it is possible that it contains grammar or spelling mistakes, sorry for that!

and this might be dw ubers. if it is, i'm sorry

Yes thos is DW Ubers. Or else you wouldn't be having Soul Dew Latias; it's not allowed in WiFi Ubers. And I think you should change the Uber tag to Dream World Uber because that's the tier this team belongs to.

All I can really say.

 

[puregenius]

hp ground for zekrom? lets review

ice beam has 95 base power, hidden power has 70

both are se so u have a pretty much useless move

if u still want a scouter used a mixed zekrom with life orb the speed may be unappealing so u can still use a scarf set but dont make him predominantly special attack

 

[theGforce]

Zekrom is purely special because otherwise its SPA has to be lowered(or one of its defenses) and this zekrom is built to come in safe, then hurt anything with volt switch to get the hell outta there,and if there are ferros(which i don't like so i want to kill them immedeatly)i can use focus blast. the others are there for if zekrom is my last poke.

 

[theGforce]

anyone got a good replacement for latias?

 

[Ossyrial]

Kyogre @ leftovers
252sp.att./252spe./4hp, timid
surf
hidden power ground
ice beam
thunder

surf for stab
hp ground for zekroms who dont see it coming (risky but effective )Speed tie with all max speed non-scarf Zekrom's. And well, HP [Ground] does 49%-59% which is by far not enought as an Ice Beam does, having a power of 67%-79% against a Zekrom. Added, a Zekrom's Bolt Strike without Adamant nature easily OHKO's a Kyogre. In my opinion, Calm Mind suits Kyogre better, although I would suggest using a more defensive set with 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 Spe and Modest nature.
icebeam for dragons
and thunder just for the funn of it
what seems a bulky kyogre is an offensive one, it helped me a lot on po when i surprizekilled lots of pokes




zekrom @ choice scarf
252sp.att/252spe./4hp, modest
volt switch
thunder
draco meteor
focus blast

volt switch for scouting while dealing a great amount of damage
thunder for power and stab
draco for stab and beating the dragons
focus blast for ferros and things like that
this thing is a beast, when i have a safe switch in, i volt switch to a counter and because it is not mixed it is modest and that helps too, he usually doesnt take damage the whole match until he's my last poke
Well... It has been said enough times now, use a physical one :P
Normally, I wouldn't give a huge preference to physical over special, however as you have Mewto, Kyogre and Latias which are all three special, I would strongly suggest to take a physical one.




mewto @ expert belt
252sp.att/252pse/4hp, modest
psystrike
icebeam
aura sphere
grass knot

psystrike for some powerfull stab
icebeam for dragons
aura sphere for ferro and darkrai
grass knot for opposing kyogre or groudon.
As previously mentioned, Grass Knot isn't a great move. Replace Grass Knot by Calm Mind. Also, an option is Thunder, as in the rain it becomes a lot of fun. If you, however, decide to run Aura Sphere over Thunder, definitely make Mewtwo Timid, because one of the main reasons to have Aura Sphere is revenge killing Darkrai which is impossible with a Modest nature. Last but not least, Life Orb is better than Expert Belt even without the chance of bluffing a Choice item.

awesome, some people think he's specs and then die from a move they didn't expect, others just die because it is so darn powerful :)
there is not much to say about it, it's just awesome


forretress @ leftovers
252hp/176def/80sp.def, relaxed
stealth rocks
rapid spin
gyro ball
If you want to wall Zekrom, I suggest running EQ over Gyro Ball.
In the sun, the fire weakness is halved, but still I don't really like running Forretress, especially in Ubers where every move is deadly. However, that's just my opinion :).
protect

pretty simple, this thing is there to wall things like zekrom
with spikes for pokes that switch a lot
rapid spin to protect mine from toxic or sr or spikes damage
gyro ball for damage
protect for some lefties recovery
this thing is here to wall physical dragons and to rapid spin but that's about it
i guess it could be replaced by ferro but that gives my team a fighting weakness extra, and i don't really want that




arceus @ silk scarf
240hp/252att/16spe, adamant
swords dance
exterme speed
earth quake
shadow claw

extremekiller arceus, my physical dude. simple, sd once and if possible twice then sweep, eq for steels resisting es and shadow claw for ghosts immune to es. the hp investment for some bulk+raw power+some speed for the heck of it.
Well, I've never liked Arceus. But that's probably because I don't like ultimate power. I just like Shuckle, whose power goes beyond infinity.
Not really anything useful to say, so let's accept that Arceus can wreck things and it shouldn't be changed drastically.



latias @ soul dew
252hp/4sp.att/252spe, timid
calm mind
recover
dragon pulse
thunder

my somesort of special wall, to be replaced. with soul dew, special attacks won't do anything. (icebeam from deoxys attack, probably max spatt., just 40%, and that without any special defense investment!)Calcs:50%-59%. Don't exaggerate :). Basically, a Chansey/Blissey will take care of this thing rather well. However, with the lack of HP [Fire], Ferrothorn will do the job of countering this poke as well. This Latias doesn't like T-Wave at all. I would suggest replacing Latias with calm mind to boost your spdef and spatt even further, recover for healing in the proces dragon pulse for stab and thunder for some coverage
this pokemon needs to be replaced. without this poke i haven't got 2 weaknesses from the same type this one makes that 5 so...

i thank you in advance for commenting and rating this team

i hope you enjoyed

ps english is not my mother tongue so it is possible that it contains grammar or spelling mistakes, sorry for that!

and this might be dw ubers. if it is, i'm sorry
I believe it is. :)
Not sure though.

In short:
Replace Kyogre's HP Ground for Calm Mind,
Make Zekrom Physical for your team's offensive balance,
Replace Mewtwo's Grass Knot for Calm Mind,
Possibly replace Forretress' Gyro over EQ, your preference,
Possibly replace Latias for something else.

 

[theGforce]

@ossyrial
i don't like mixed pokes as it makes their defences lower(or speed)
since it hasn't got a very wide physical movepool and a decent special one
i prefer this one, just because i like to have more power from volt switch
about the forretress thing, thats why it has sturdy :)
i wil make mewto timid and try some other moves. but i don't ralyy like life orb recoil as mewto isnt able to take hits well and 1/10 damage every tunr does certanly not help.
and shuckles power is beyond beyond infinity
as i said b4 i will make some changes

thanks everybody!
ps is still need a replacement for latias (as it is dw which i don't like at all)
maybe sablye as it causes many rq's and cripples a lot of pokes with its status moves -.-

 

[TM13IceBeam]

just use a naive Zekrom, run Volt Switch/Outrage/Bolt Strike/Draco Meteor. I know that's standard, but really by running special Zekrom you are not making use of his biggest asset: 150 Attack. MixKrom is imo the best Zekrom set there is.

Latias... idk. it's generally used for spdef tanking, you might want to try specially defensive jirachi. You can also try Giratina-A for spinblocking.

finally, gyro ball is shit in Ubers. really. even though it hits 150 power rather often forry's offense is just shit pathetic and gyro isn't going to rape anything anytime soon. run Volt Switch, its easily one of two things that distinguishes forry from ferrotroll (the other being spin)

 

[theGforce]

thank you all for saying that i should use mixrom but as i have said i like it this way(the zekrom part)
i dont like defense down natures
and volt switch is some sort of the only move i use until all my other pokes are dead
thats why i want to run a modest fully special
and 120 spatt is notning to laugh at
zekrom is done here, it is what sets my team apart
@tm13, what kind of set were you having in mind for giratina?

 

[Ossyrial]

First of all, the +Def -SAtk nature is Impish
A good normal-formed Giratina moveset is:
- Calm Mind (main move, it becomes nearly impossible to OHKO him with just 1 CM(and even without, it can live a CB'd, Super effective Outrage from an Adamant Zekrom(UNKS!)))
- Rest (Annoying...)
- Sleep Talk (Awesome)
- Dragon Pulse
EV's should look like this:
248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpD, with a Bold nature.
This set is great until Soul Dew is released, as I do think that Latias will beat Giratina over here.
Still, a deadly counter is Darkrai. Even though you have sleep talk, Darkrai can be a complete monster. However you still have Mewtwo with Aura Sphere to revenge those thingies.

 

[Ossyrial]

Also, I've just come up with a new pokemon which might completely not do the job for you, but in the rain it isn't very bad: Metagross.
Talking about your team weaknesses it only adds one extra, being ground (Obviously, fire is not super effective in the rain anymore).
A Choice Banded, Adamant Metagross (135 base Attack without CB or Adamant) with Bullet Punch, Meteor Mash, Pursuit and EQ/Hammer Arm will add another physical attacker to your team, - which you might need because of your stubbornness with Zekrom (Just kidding :D)- and hugely support your team.
Scizor is also an option, but adds a fire weakness to the team.
Metagross will do just fine with Adamant nature and 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD EVs

 

[theGforce]

thanx ossyrial. that giratina helped me out quite a few times
but, the great but, with giratina, i have severe extremekiller arse-eus problems
as my signature sais, i have reachd #70, but the last 50 places were all because i had sableye, it seems a pretty effective counter to arceus.
(and one more zekrom thingy, YEAH. that was it)
i'm still not very happy with cm on mewtwo. i have never had a chance tu really use it so i will try it with something like thunder.

this team is getting pretty good. i almost won a wifi ubers match(cuz sableye was dead and he still had an arceus - -")
thank you all for helping me! i really appreciate it ^^

 

[theGforce]

i indeed should have more physical/special balance in my team, that is why i am suggesting a physical sash deoxys-a instead of mewto

deoxys-a @ sash
4hp/max att/max spe
zen headbutt
brick break/drain punch
fire punch
extremespeed

zhb may not be as strong as psycoboost but is still powerful.
brick break to break screens or dp to get health back(it might even work with the sash thingy, i attack,get knocked to my sash, i dp get knocked to my sash. etc)
fire punch wait, no fire punch.(any suggestions?)
espeed for other espeed pokes like arse-eus

any good replacement for firepunch?
maybe icep for groudon(i somehow have trouble with them) or maybe tpunch for scarf- or specs-ogre
your advise is welcome!

ps my signature sais #70 but it already is #62. yay!

 

[theGforce]

maybe a scarf palkia instead of zekrom, no volt switch but a good revenge killer. as for Deoxys-a, it didnt work, because i made it modest, max spatt max spe... fail...it brought me back to #300 orso... and i still need a physical poke..., any suggestions?, bump!
BUMP! ><

 

[FlamingCaterpie]

haha lol! The day I see Sableye do well in Ubers is the day I stop playing. The Sableye set is good for stopping Arceus Normal and sucks at just about everything else. I recommend switching Sableye with Giratina. Giratina resists all of Arceus' moves like Sableye but then can actually do something when the opponent switches. Giratina can also Wil-O-Wisp if you really wanna cripple Arceus.

Also, never give a Pokemon a move "Just for fun." Pokemon is about fun but, there should be some reason for the moves you choose.