Umreon wallz UU

[MistaBurp]

Hi Smogon,

I've entered myself in a UU tournament that's starting out next week. I already have one UU team that is based around Leafeon and that one works just fine, in fact in only has been beaten twice, and that was because I just played bad that two times.

Now, because relying on one team in a tournament in wich I will always face one (or more) opponents twice, doesn't seem a good idea to me. And since the lack of testing time I'd like some help by you guys.

I have the habid to build my teams around Eeveelutions and that works just fine for me. In fact this is the fifth Eeveelution based team I've build so far.

My playstyle as I have noticed playing the past few months of Pokémon is built around Pokémon that can take hits to scout of how my opponent playes (prodicting, overprodicting) and adjust my style to that (in terms of predicting and overpredicting). Witch means I like bulky Pokémon, Pokémon that fit in well together typewise, as wel some stall / set up pokémon, and some revengekillers with priority / scarf.

Allright, lets take a look at my team:

Lol, my team looks kinda gay with all the blue and the pink, anywayz...

So I start out with Umbreon, since he's a great support for my team, and since I'm building a team around Eeveelutions.

Nidoqueen just works awesome with Umbreon, concidering the fact that Nidoqueen eats Fighting and Bug attacks for breakfast. And Umbreon doesn't even know when a Psychic attack is used. So they both Tank and Wall out a lot of Pokémon

A team needs sweepers. And Feraligatr works fine. He can come in on the Water and Ice attacks aimed at Nidoqueen, and Dragon Dance on the switch out, witch ofcourse is awesome. And if threatened by Electric attacks Nidoqueen can come back in.

Like every team this team needs a lead. And Froslass lead just seems awesome. Ambipon is useless against it, and Uxie can't do much either. Spike support fits well for this team as Nidoqueen can set up Stealth Rock.

Toxicroak is just a great addition to this team. It coveres the Water attacks aimed for Nidoqueen as wel the Grass attacks aimed for Feraligatr. Sub on the switch and then just try to take this thing down.

Although Umbreon is immune to Psychic attacks I still have quite a big weak, concidering Toxicroak is 4x weak and Nidoqueen is 2x weak. I figure out Mesprit will do here. He can take hits concidering his solid defenses, ass wel that he can trow some hits at threats for my team. I just might run a Specs set, who would expect that lol.

Allright, an in depth view then:

@ Focus Sash
Timid with 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe EV's
~ Spikes
~ Taunt
~ Destiny Bond
~ Ice Beam

Well yea, this is the standard Suicide Froslass lead, and it works. This set guarantees 2 layers of spikes, with a opponent that sets up even 3. When I'm still alive I can always take down an opponent with me using Desteny Bond.

@ Leftovers
Careful with 252 HP / 92 SpD / 164Def EV's
~ Mean Look
~ Toxic
~ Moonlight
~ Payback

I adjusted the standard set a little bit cuz I just don't know how to play Batom Pass correctly. Toxic on the switch in, Mean Look to prevent him from switching out, and then stall him out with Moonlight. Payback is to do some extra damage if I notice the opponents attack isn't gonna be a 2HKO. Basicly, this set comes in an the Psychic attacks that are aimed for Nidoqueen and Toxicroak, and the Ghost or Dark attacks aimed for Mesprit. If the switch in is a Fighting type or a Bug type, I'll always have to switch out, in that case I have Mesprit or Nidoqueen to go for (as even Toxicroak is an option here). If the switch in is neither of those, I'm pretty sure Umbreon can even take a Bug or Fighting attack (exept for the occasional Rhyperior and other massive Attack / Special Attack Pokémon), so then it's basicly seeing how much damage the opponent does to Umbreon and then I have to deside to stay in or not.

@ Black Sludge
Relaxed with 252 HP / 216 Def / 40 Spe EV's
Poison Point (ability)
~ Earthquake
~ Stone Edge
~ Crunch
~ Stealth Rock

I prefer Black Sludge over leftovers just to screw over trickscarfers (although Mesprit can switch in as wel), basicly there is just no reason to pick Leftovers over Black Sludge. This set can take hits from everything Umbreon is scared of. Earthquake as a great stab move, Stone Edge to hit Flying types super effective, and Cruch to cripple incoming Psychics. Stealth Rock is a great support move, witch is great in addition with the Spikes that Froslass has layed down already. This is entirely optional and I can basicly use this move when there is the time to set up or not.

@ Life Orb
Adamant with 28 HP / 252 Atk / 228 Spe EV's
~ Dragon Dance
~ Waterfall
~ Ice Punch
~ Earthquake

Dragon Dance on the switch out witch alow me to outspeed a decent amount of Pokémon. Waterfall as stab move (witch is only resisted by other Water, Dragon and Grass Pokémon), Ice Punch cripples incoming Grass Pokémon (and the Dragons who resist Water, witch makes it unlikely that a Dragon will switch in to Feraligatr), just like Earthquake cripples Electrics. Can come in on Water attacks trown at Nidoqueen, especially coming from a Choiced Pokémon. Feraligatr is the first of the two "main sweepers" in this team.

@ Leftovers
Adamant with 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe EV's
Dry Skin (ability)
~ Substitute
~ Focus Punch
~ Sucker Punch
~ Ice Punch

Kinda works the same as Feraligatr exept Subsitute in stead of DD. Toxicroak is one of those Pokémon you'd like to get rid of as soon as possible, witch comes to this: the opponent will most likely switch into a Psychic or another Pokémon that can throw some Psychic attacks at Toxicroak. Sucker Punch cripples Phychics before they can even think how the are gonna hurt Toxicroak. Especcialy behind a Sub, witch begs for damage moves. Focus Pucus as a stab move and Ice Punch (over Stone Edge)for the Accuracy, and it will still hurt Flyings. Can, just like Feraligatr, come in on Water attacks, as wel in one the the 6 other types it resists (Grass for Feraligatr, Fighting for Umbreon, bug for Umbreon and Mesprit, Dark for Mesprit,...).

@ Choice Scarf
Modest with 16 HP / 252 SpA / 240 Spe EV's
~ Psychic
~ Thunderbolt
~ Shadow Ball
~ Hidden Power Fighting

Revenge killer and also Special attacker, and combined with tanking abilitys. Can come in on EQ aimed for Toxicroak. If the opponent lacks of Priority, witch I'll probably know by then, witch makes this Mesprit an exelent Revenge Killer, the EV's and the Scarf makes it outspeed everything that isn't scarfed or hasn't got a speed boost (DD for example). I use The moveset is kinda obvious, as for a Choiced Pokémon set-up moves are useless. Psychic is Mesprit main attacking move, since it has stab bonus. Thunderbolt is to his Water types, as well as almost anything for neutral damage. Shadow Ball grants me a super effective move against other Psychics, and Hidden Power Fighting I use when I expect a Dark to come in.

Well, that's it. RMT

 

[Heysup]

Before I rate, I just want to suggest that you add more detailed descriptions of your Pokemon, because it is hard to rate your team without knowing exactly what your Pokemon does.

(this is also a "rule" in the RMT forum)

 

[MistaBurp]

Before I rate, I just want to suggest that you add more detailed descriptions of your Pokemon, because it is hard to rate your team without knowing exactly what your Pokemon does.

(this is also a "rule" in the RMT forum)

Will do so later today or tomorrow, lack of time at the moment

 

[august]

Before I rate, I just want to suggest that you add more detailed descriptions of your Pokemon, because it is hard to rate your team without knowing exactly what your Pokemon does.

(this is also a "rule" in the RMT forum)

This. PM me with updated descriptions and i'll gladly unlock.

 

[MistaBurp]

Allright, unlocked, added some information that might be helpfull wel rating

RMT, thanks!

 

[Azure Demon]

Allright, unlocked, added some information that might be helpfull wel rating

RMT, thanks!

I love this team such great coverage such nice bulk the team work is amazing. One problem though this team is 100%and I mean 100% bulk up hitmonchan weak a bulk up hitmonchan can be used as a lead set up a few pull ups on froslass or any true player will know you use spikes or may taunt out of your confusion because hitmonchan leads are very diffrent but pack bullet punch so lass can go down then he can drain punch some shit then kill off nidoqueen with ice punch and if it dosent kill you can be guarenteed it will be in ko range with iron fist and with gator even if it DDs hitmonchan packs salac berry so
I also noticed kangaskhan lead can kill you
yeah bye bye and more hp for him I reccomend a not so common lead plus something that you can block status with
people forget hitmonchan exist. It never fails you are worrying to much about common pokemon you have to prepare for everything. Then you also will have huge problems with recover curse quagsire


so I reccomend
curse+aqua jet gator or sword dance+aqua jet gator
grumpig magic coat makes it one hell of a lead or noctowl psycho shifting the status they put on you then night shading for 100 damage takes it's toll on a person
heck absol while it has no status or nor any entry hazards magic coat sword dance makes night slash then superpower it very very viable I've used and loves it. Watching roserade sleep itself is so fun

great team still giving 5 out of 5

rmt my team also bro

 

[flashbolt]

This is great, i ran a team near the same. I had Umbreon, Feraligatr, Toxicroak, Mesprit and Nidoking (we were one lead away). It worked great; it may not ladder great but it certainly does well in a one-off-match.

I remember when i played the team Feraligatr had a crucial role in every game. Most people's way to stop him involve status. I recommend using lum berry over life orb, just save him till late game and make sure hes the fastest thing out there, hes gonna be your trump card. Personally i found more success with a Sub DD Feraligatr (Lefties. Waterall/return/sub/dd) as it can reliably set up on registeel and because people dont see whats coming they usually stick around to see Twave hit the Sub. The only things ive found that can reliably stop it are bulky waters like milotic and slowbro. Milotic will pave the way for your Toxicroak, i guess umbreon deals with slowbro.

Just a warning that Nidoqueen will become a status absorber for you. Thunder wave will cripple sweepers and toxic will wreck walls (toxicroak can help out here) and status is really common. Alot of your pokes can't afford to switch into status even once.

Also you are running a suicide lead who gets down spikes but you havnt a ghost to stop them being spun away right away. Staying true to the offensive nature of your team you could replace Scarf Mesprit with a Scarf Rotom (or magius).
If you want a more reliable spin blocker who could also double up as a status absorber try standard Restalk CM Spiritomb, this will keep your psychic resistance (immunity) but will lose the ground immunity which could be bad news with two ground weaknesses.

Actually your ground weakness may be an issue in itself especially as Mesprit is not bulky EVed and , when they realise it is choiced, may become a weak link. But this wouldnt be easy to change in your team, it will just have to something you are mindful of when playing.

Also have you considered trick or u-turn or maybe even sleep talk (so you have a sleep inducer) for mesprit, when they realise it is scarfed they may want to exploit it on the switch. The first two options will ease prediction.

Do you know what would be a real help for people rating this team? If you told us which pokemon you were most attached to and who was negotiable, just a nice thought.

But im sounding overcritical, really i love your team and im sure it will work great. 5/5

 

[MistaBurp]

Really awesome rates, thanks guys. Basicly, this team is for Wifi and not Shoddy.

To answerer some of the questions:
The only Pokémon I wouldn't mind going out of this team, is Froslass. And as I have read in a previous post: this wouldn't be a bad idea.