Usage Stats for each round of the Tour

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I feel that sometimes the ladder stats that we are so kindly and thoughtfully given every month are not entirely representative of the most competitive battlers and their metagame, the smogon tour however is. I for one would find it extremely interesting to see any discrepancies that arise between stats gained in each round of the tour and the ladder stats and from this see what the "more" competitive side of the community favours as oppose to the ladder which is used for testing and by beginners. This way we would see a streamlined depiction of the state of the metagame.

As for how this would be done it would be quite simple. All participants send their teams to the tournament host or an admin (X-Act) and then the stats are sifted through, tinkered with and subsequently released. It may not be the best solution, and it may take a lot of administration but i think the resulting stats would be well worth the effort.

Thoughts, opinions?
 
This would involve the logs from the tour to all be easily identifiable, in addition to all being on the same server and what round of the tour they were in. They could be collected manually, but the people with access to the logs have better things to do with their time I would imagine.
 
I've noted your concerns RBG but i propose that it be done daily (weekly) and with minimal effort by simply asking everyone to pm their teams via export to text after the tourney (to prevent cheating).
From there, assuming there are a 128 participants the stats could be released as they are in a notepad file. Or simply the pokemon and the sets used tallied up and released. I dont see how, if done like this it would be a huge time suck.

Edit: Looking at the time you posted RBG I dont know if you saw what i added. I've reposted most of it anyway.
 
of course, we could just collect weighted stats in addition to the regular ones to see what the REAL pros use...
 
No matter how it was done, it'd probably be a time suck, though I agree it'd be cool. gliscor #1 imo

As for weighted stats, Doug has said repeatedly on IRC generating extra stats is a huge pain in the ass given the extraordinary volume of logs anything he runs has to parse (like 500k per month or something similarly impressive), and with X-Act missing in action, I can't see that being feasible... you know, in any semblance of meaningful.
 
Regarding the usage stats specifically for the tour, it seems as though it wouldn't be THAT much work to do that, and there are certainly things being done right now that are less useful. I think that knowing what the top players are using is very valuable, and tour statistics are an easy way to get a good sample for this as opposed to using ladder battles, which contain worse data and would be harder to do anyway. It seems as though if we got a few people to look at the logs for each tour, write down the 12 pokes they see in each one, and give it to someone to compile the stats in their entirety that it wouldn't be incredibly difficult. Unfortunately I am fairly busy right now so I can't volunteer. The only thing that the people with access to the logs would have to do is post them publicly somewhere, (which would be interesting also, but I digress).
 
jumpluff said:
As for weighted stats, Doug has said repeatedly on IRC generating extra stats is a huge pain in the ass given the extraordinary volume of logs anything he runs has to parse (like 500k per month or something similarly impressive), and with X-Act missing in action, I can't see that being feasible... you know, in any semblance of meaningful.
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Only parse battles of users over an arbitrary rank cutoff then. :D
 
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