VGC VGC Reg I - Koraidon/Lunala Team (Looking for help finishing)

[phantom_isle]

I posted something in the Reg I Metagame forum, but somebody suggested I come here for more help finalizing the last spot on my team.
This is what I've been using in Battle Stadium: https://pokepast.es/228d9c7fb0cd9875 I've been having fun, and went 8-3 so far. I feel like it's overall pretty good, but I have a few kinks I want to iron out. I'm thinking about replacing Gholdengo or Flutter Mane since it feels a bit redundant to have both, but I'm really not sure which. My precious string cheese man has come in super clutch the few times that I've brought him, thanks to the extra bulk EVs, but it usually takes a Nasty Plot if I want to OHKO anything.

Staples:

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Koraidon @ Clear Amulet
Ability: Orichalcum Pulse​

Level: 50
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 140 HP / 188 Atk / 4 Def / 44 SpD / 132 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Collision Course
- Flare Blitz
- Dragon Claw
- Protect​

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One of my favorite mons to battle with, does great damage but also has great support as a sun setter. I went with a slightly bulkier set that still does big damage. I've still been running Clear Amulet from Reg G, but I feel like I haven't run into as many Incins, so I've been considering swapping it out, potentially for Life Orb if I end up removing Gholdengo. I'm also kinda iffy on Dragon Claw, I like having the STAB dragon move to deal with other Koraidon/Miraidon, but it can be pretty underwhelming damage sometimes, especially after being used to 252 Atk Outrage doing much more damage in singles. I know it would be even less damage, but I have seen some people running Breaking Swipe for the speed control. Other than that, I've been very happy with Koraidon.​

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VS 252 SpA / 252 Spe : 188 Atk Orichalcum Pulse Koraidon Dragon Claw vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Miraidon: 182-216 (103.4 - 122.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO)​

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VS 252 HP / 252+ Def : 188 Atk Orichalcum Pulse Koraidon Dragon Claw vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Miraidon: 132-156 (63.7 - 75.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO​

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VS 252 Atk / 252 Spe : 188 Atk Orichalcum Pulse Koraidon Dragon Claw vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Koraidon: 162-192 (92 - 109%) -- 50% chance to OHKO​

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VS 252 HP / 252+ Def : 188 Atk Orichalcum Pulse Koraidon Dragon Claw vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Koraidon: 116-140 (56 - 67.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO​

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Lunala @ Power Herb
Ability: Shadow Shield
Level: 50
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 220 HP / 180 SpA / 108 SpD
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk / 0 Spe
- Moongeist Beam
- Meteor Beam
- Wide Guard
- Moonblast​

Lunala has been a great pick as my other restricted alongside Koraidon. The Wide Guard protection is great, it hits really hard even before the Meteor Beam SpA boost, just a good pick alongside Koraidon. The only tweak that I've made to the typical sets is running Moonblast as my last move. I like having another answer for Dragon types if I don't have Koraidon or Flutter available, but I've been running into problems vs Trick Room teams. I've been considering replacing Moonblast with Trick Room to have the option of reversing it if my opponents manage to set it up after Tornadus is gone. I've gotten screwed a few times where they set TR up while I have Tailwind active and I just lose the game on the spot. I could potentially also make whatever my last mon I'm replacing a Trick Room focused mon, but I'm not sure.​

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VS 252 SpA / 252 Spe : 180+ SpA Lunala Moonblast vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Miraidon: 106-126 (60.2 - 71.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO​

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VS 252 Atk / 252 Spe : 180+ SpA Lunala Moonblast vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Koraidon: 236-280 (134 - 159%) -- guaranteed OHKO​

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VS 252 HP / 252 SpD+ AV : 180+ SpA Lunala Moonblast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Assault Vest Koraidon: 116-140 (56 - 67.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO​

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Tornadus @ Covert Cloak
Ability: Prankster
Level: 50
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Dark
EVs: 204 HP / 36 Def / 4 SpA / 12 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Tailwind
- Taunt
- Bleakwind Storm
- Protect​

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There really isn't too much I can say here, this is very standard Tornadus set, I just wanted the Prankster Tailwind and Taunt, Bleakwind Storm for chip and speed control, Covert Cloak for Fake Out immunity, and Tera Dark for Prankster immunity if needed.​

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Ogerpon-Cornerstone (F) @ Cornerstone Mask
Ability: Sturdy
Level: 50
Tera Type: Rock
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Ivy Cudgel
- Power Whip
- Follow Me
- Spiky Shield​

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Another very standard set, I went with Cornerstone mainly for the Rock type Ivy Cudgel to hit Fire and Flying types without having to worry about Meteor Beam shenanigans . I don't need to explain to anyone how good Follow Me is, and I went with Power Whip for the highest damage Grass move without the recoil from Wood Hammer potentially breaking my Sturdy (to be fair, I think I've only had Sturdy activate like once, Ogerpon is just so naturally bulky it barely ever gets OHKO'd lol)​

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VS Bulky : -1 252 Atk Cornerstone Mask Ogerpon-Cornerstone Ivy Cudgel vs. 244 HP / 188+ Def Incineroar: 104-126 (51.7 - 62.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO​

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VS 252 HP / 252+ Def : 252 Atk Cornerstone Mask Ogerpon-Cornerstone Power Whip vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Kyogre: 180-212 (86.9 - 102.4%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO​

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VS My after Tera: 252 Atk Cornerstone Mask Ogerpon-Cornerstone Ivy Cudgel vs. 140 HP / 4 Def Tera Fire Koraidon: 170-204 (88 - 105.6%) -- 31.3% chance to OHKO​

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VS Offensive : 252 Atk Cornerstone Mask Ogerpon-Cornerstone Ivy Cudgel vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Calyrex-Ice: 138-164 (66.6 - 79.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO​

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VS Leech Seed : 252 Atk Cornerstone Mask Ogerpon-Cornerstone Ivy Cudgel vs. 252 HP / 212+ Def Calyrex-Ice: 110-132 (53.1 - 63.7%) -- 62.5% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery and Leech Seed recovery​

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VS Tera Water Leech Seed : 252 Atk Cornerstone Mask Ogerpon-Cornerstone Power Whip vs. 252 HP / 212+ Def Tera Water Calyrex-Ice: 132-156 (63.7 - 75.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery and Leech Seed recovery​

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Potential Changes:

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Flutter Mane @ Focus Sash
Ability: Protosynthesis
Level: 50
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Grass
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Moonblast
- Icy Wind
- Shadow Ball
- Energy Ball​

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This set needs some tweaking, I remember going Tera Grass + Energy Ball for some surprise OHKOs in Reg G but I can't remember what the matchups were lol, at least it still looks pretty with the shiny :3. Flutter is an insane glass cannon, and I wanted to have at least one Protosynthesis mon on my team still, since I removed my AV Raging Bolt to add Lunala for Reg I. Sash is nice to guarantee at least one hit, or to force a double into Flutter so my partner can do something.​

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Gholdengo @ Life Orb
Ability: Good as Gold
Level: 50
Tera Type: Normal
EVs: 212 HP / 52 Def / 52 SpA / 100 SpD / 92 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Make It Rain
- Shadow Ball
- Nasty Plot
- Protect

As much as I love Gholdengo, it feels like it's getting left behind between Lunala and Flutter. Its bulk has allowed me to live usually a few hits and get some great damage back in return, especially if I can catch them off guard with a Tera Normal to block a Ghost attack. I've rarely been bringing it to my games though, usually the core 4 does well into most matchups, and if I feel like I need another CSR answer than just Lunala I usually bring Flutter rather than Gholdengo, since I can outspeed after a Proto boost or with Tailwind.​

Replacement Options?

I've been considering Chi-Yu as one of the options. It would get extra boost from Koraidon's sun, and help out Flutter/Gholdengo (which ever one I keep) and Lunala, plus it would be an inherent Prankster immunity without having to Tera, not that it matters as much on Christopher Yusef , but having a switch in to a Taunt or something could be useful. Plus I'd probably run Snarl for another check for CSR.​

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The other option I'm thinking about would be some sort of mon that's either good inside Trick Room, or is a Trick Room setter themselves, since I've lost every matchup I've had if my opponent successfully gets the dimensions twisted. Like stated above I've been considering putting Trick Room on Lunala, but that would only be if my last mon wasn't a good TR counter.​

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If you read all this and have any ideas, please let me know <3
Thank you so much! I spent a few hours writing all this up, this is my first time ever trying any sort of written thing about Pokemon, I've always been more of a casual fan, that's just watched and appreciated competitive battling from a distance, but now I really want to get into VGC :))

 

[Pengu]

Heyo phantom_isle ! Nice team you got here, I do really enjoy anything Koraidon, especially with Lunala. Don't want to yap too much, so I'll get right into the rate lol;

• Specifically Assault Vest sets, without big damage from Koraidon (gets beat by their most common Tera, being Tera Fairy) or Ogerpon-C or Flutter Mane(which dies to two Thunderclaps), this Pokemon can truly be a nuisance.
• OHKOs Koraidon, ignores Gholdengo, OHKOs Tornadus, removes Lunala's boosts with Snarl, also benefits from your own Sun.
• While I wouldn't say it's super problematic, it is definitely troublesome (I'd assume)

• Another just difficult Pokemon, forces Tera on a lot of your Pokemon

CHANGES

Dragon Claw --> Flame Charge / Breaking Swipe

I did notice you were talking about potentially swapping to a Life Orb set. I think k on this team, Clear Amulet is better, especially since Incineroar is just really good and has a solid MU into your team. Just because you don't see it often doesn't mean its not good!!! Also try bo3s, should help you practice more into Incineroar.

Anyways, onto this change. Dragon Claw is just mediocre and you'd much rather have something like Flame Charge which lets you outspeed Miraidon, Chien-Pao, and opposing Koraidon. You can also try Breaking Swipe if you feel like you have issues with physical attackers or just like the Dragon-type damage.


FIX YOUR EVS!!!

I don't really understand no speed Lunala (unless it is for a specific reason, if so, notify me!) and why 0 Speed IVs but no Trick Room?

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I think this is a pretty basic swap. Whimsicott is generally better for this team since it does really well into Raging Bolt with a bit better of a Chien-Pao matchup. You also can easily fit on Sunny Day with Encore providing overall more utility than Taunt. Here is a set for you to try, but feel free to experiment:

Whimsicott @ Covert Cloak
Ability: Prankster
Level: 50
Tera Type: Dark
EVs: 180 HP / 108 SpD / 220 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Moonblast
- Tailwind
- Encore
- Sunny Day


Looks solid!


Tera Grass --> Tera Fairy / Stellar
Energy Ball --> Protect

While I think Tera Grass Energy Ball is cool tech, it just doesn't feel very necessary since you already have Ogerpon-C. Tera Fairy might be better here for you, but Stellar works for a general damage boost. And, of course, Protect should be slotted here for positioning.

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Yeah get this fraud out of here. Gholdengo just isn't good right now due to the really high power level. Chi-Yu helps into Chien-Pao and is just broken under Sun, so use that. Set for you to use:

Chi-Yu @ Choice Scarf
Level: 50
Ability: Beads of Ruin
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Tera Type: Ghost
Modest Nature
- Heat Wave
- Snarl
- Overheat
- Dark Pulse

New Paste: https://pokepast.es/6bae3769402f668e

glhf trainer!