Virizion (suggestions welcome)

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Water Drone

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Overview
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-Good Overall Stats
-Extremely versatile
-Can go either physical, special, or mixed
-Very fast
-Arguably one of the best Offensive Grass types around.
-Decent special bulk
-90/90 attacking stats are underwheling, and therefore requires setting up to be effective
-Crippling typing defensively; weak to Poison, Fire, Ice, Flying (4x), Psychic, and Fairy


Swords Dance
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name: Swords Dance
move 1: Swords Dance
move 2: Close Combat
move 3: Leaf Blade
move 4: Zen Headbutt / Stone Edge
ability: Justified
item: Lum Berry / Life Orb
evs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
nature: Jolly

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Calm Mind
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name: Calm Mind
move 1: Calm Mind
move 2: Giga Drain
move 3: Focus Blast
move 4: Substitute / Synthesis
ability: Justified
item: Leftovers
evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
nature: Timid

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Work Up
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name: Work Up
move 1: Work Up
move 2: Giga Drain
move 3: Close Combat
move 4: Zen Headbutt / Stone Edge
ability: Justified
item: Lum Berry / Life Orb
evs:
nature:

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Other Options
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-Stallbreaker (toxic taunt synthesis)
-Sacred Sword

Checks & Counters
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**Crobat**:

**Psychic types**:

**Flying types**:

**Faster Physical Attackers**: Victini Darmanitan etc (scarfs ofc)
 
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The stallbreaker set looks iffy at best and downright bad at worst. Giga Drain + Toxic is not the best move combination - even when behind a sub there are a slew of defensive and offensive threats that will give 0 shits about anything you can do. This includes Roserade, Crobat, Mega-Aggron, Forretress with Gyro Ball, Jirachi, Lucario, and Aromatisse. At best, this set should go into Other Options.


For the Work Up set, you have Hidden Power yet don't specify which Hidden Power it is. I'm not entirely convinced that it's even worth it to run Hidden Power over something like Stone Edge, but I can't make a judgement call on that until I know which Hidden Power you're talking about.

I don't have much experience with it, but similar pokes would imply that the CM set should at least have Sub slashed with Synthesis - and possibly go first. I'm also not entirely convinced that this should even have a set - there are just too many things that hard counter it even when it has boosts (see list from before, plus every scarfed fire type, plus mega aerodactyl with aerial ace, plus psyshock zam. Infiltrator crobat is especially troll)

My instinct is telling me that only the SD set and _maybe_ the work up set are even good enough to warrant their own sets, but I don't have enough experience to say for sure.
 
Thanks Kitten Milk. Im not gonna remove Calm Mind, its really good. The mons you listed check Viriz period, not just the CM set so yeah. Thanks for your input.

Tagging Meru because apparently they can help.
 
Work Up seems OO, to be honest, as Virizion's offensive stats are already so low that going Mixed will make it a total pushover. Speaking of which, you should probably mention that in the overview, as 90/90 is fairly unimpressive for UU. I would also make Lum Berry the first slash on the SD set, as you're commonly going to be switching in and/or setting up on Bulky Waters like Suicune and Alomomola as well as Blissey so having that one time immunity to Status, especially Burn, really helps you nab that boost as well as preventing things like Sableye from ruining your sweep, who you OHKO after SD. Calm Mind's EVs should also be 252 SpA/252 Spe, and you should slash HP Rock on there to hit Fire- and Flying-types. Not too sure how I feel about Substitute and Synthesis on those sets. Otherwise looks pretty good. Hope I helped.
 
You call its special bulk decent but in reality it is almost as bulky as florges given the same investment and its probably the most specially bulky of all the offensive (and some defensive lol) pokemon in the Tier and I'd put it as a perk in the overview. You should also stresss that unlke most Sd sweepers it hits the main physical wall for super effective damage with a STAB movr and that its physical bulk is not trash either and it really helps in taking priority.
I am not really sure about work up as it has more troubles with walls than the SD set making it kinda useless, what's the point of going mixed (and thus hindering Virizion's wonderful bulk) when your STAB move hits the main physical wall for Super Effective damage?
 
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