120/108/95/60/80/64 (BST: 527) by IronTemplar
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85/110/125/70/85/40 (BST: 510) by Scepticskep
85/110/125/70/85/40 (BST: 510) by Scepticskep
85/110/125/70/85/40 (BST: 510) by Scepticskep
120/108/95/60/80/64 (BST: 527) by IronTemplar
85/110/125/70/85/40 (BST: 510) by Scepticskep
And with a whopping 6 votes, Scepticskep has won for AT Venomicon-P's stats! Now onto Venomicon-E's stats...
I shall give about ~88 hours for y'all to submit some stats for AT Venomicon-E.
P.S. No one has submitted flavor art for the previous AT, but voting goes up when the stats go up for the current AT if anyone has something they are willing to cook up.
Another note is that the BST MUST match Scepticskep's 510 from their Venomicon-P stats.
I shall give about ~88 hours for y'all to submit some stats for AT Venomicon-E.
P.S. No one has submitted flavor art for the previous AT, but voting goes up when the stats go up for the current AT if anyone has something they are willing to cook up.
Dipetroldon
The Tar Sail Pokemon
Poison/Dark
Based on Dimetrodon and fossils from tar pits. (And partially based on an idea I had during CAP 34 that I never posted.)
85/136/85/55/55/94 (BST: 510)
PS: 133.88
SS: 72.57
PT: 89.46
ST: 65.14
BSR: 534.82
Defining moves: Iron Head, Close Combat, Bullet Punch
OK so I know this attack stat with Steelworker looks stupid. This mon was really tough because not only do I have the BST constraint, I also can't give it moves that would ruin the game plan of AT Veno-P as envisioned by Skepticskep. That mon was built around Gyro Ball, and my fear was that if I give this thing higher-power STAB moves (especially something like Gigaton), they risk being run over Gyro Ball on that mon for more consistent damage output / higher PP in the case of heavy slam. I also felt like building around Gyro Ball for this variant would end up with one mon outclassing the other quite quickly. That's why I stuck with Iron Head here. However, it's worth noting that Steelworker Iron Head is just equal in power to Close Combat, which means if we're actually gonna compete with shit like Zamazenta and do anything vs. mons like Gholdengo we need a crazy attack stat (and this mon is still not beating shit like pex, molt and fat ghold, or Kitsunoh realistically).
Speed is really for Lando and shit and to hit 510 while looking nice ish. Defenses are mostly so you die fast cuz the offense is a little stupid lol
PS: 133.88
SS: 72.57
PT: 89.46
ST: 65.14
BSR: 534.82
Defining moves: Iron Head, Close Combat, Bullet Punch
OK so I know this attack stat with Steelworker looks stupid. This mon was really tough because not only do I have the BST constraint, I also can't give it moves that would ruin the game plan of AT Veno-P as envisioned by Skepticskep. That mon was built around Gyro Ball, and my fear was that if I give this thing higher-power STAB moves (especially something like Gigaton), they risk being run over Gyro Ball on that mon for more consistent damage output / higher PP in the case of heavy slam. I also felt like building around Gyro Ball for this variant would end up with one mon outclassing the other quite quickly. That's why I stuck with Iron Head here. However, it's worth noting that Steelworker Iron Head is just equal in power to Close Combat, which means if we're actually gonna compete with shit like Zamazenta and do anything vs. mons like Gholdengo we need a crazy attack stat (and this mon is still not beating shit like pex, molt and fat ghold, or Kitsunoh realistically).
Speed is really for Lando and shit and to hit 510 while looking nice ish. Defenses are mostly so you die fast cuz the offense is a little stupid lol
252 Atk Iron Plate Steelworker Cobalion Iron Head vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Dragapult: 309-364 (97.4 - 114.8%) -- 81.3% chance to OHKO
252 Atk Iron Plate Steelworker Cobalion Iron Head vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Pecharunt: 160-190 (42.1 - 50%) -- 0.4% chance to 2HKO
252 Atk Iron Plate Steelworker Cobalion Iron Head vs. 244 HP / 36 Def Gliscor: 195-229 (55.3 - 65%) -- 96.9% chance to 2HKO after Poison Heal
252 Atk Iron Plate Steelworker Cobalion Iron Head vs. 104 HP / 0 Def Kitsunoh: 139-164 (42.5 - 50.1%) -- 0.4% chance to 2HKO
252 Atk Iron Plate Steelworker Cobalion Iron Head vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Multiscale Cresceidon: 111-131 (30.4 - 35.9%) -- 45.4% chance to 3HKO
252 Atk Iron Plate Steelworker Cobalion Iron Head vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Great Tusk: 192-226 (51.7 - 60.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Iron Plate Steelworker Cobalion Iron Head vs. 40 HP / 0 Def Hemogoblin: 273-322 (82.4 - 97.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Iron Plate Steelworker Cobalion Iron Head vs. 252 HP / 16 Def Slowking-Galar: 288-339 (73 - 86%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Iron Plate Steelworker Cobalion Iron Head vs. 248 HP / 248+ Def Moltres: 94-111 (24.5 - 28.9%) -- 99.8% chance to 4HKO
252 Atk Iron Plate Steelworker Cobalion Iron Head vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Gholdengo: 127-150 (40.3 - 47.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252 Atk Iron Plate Steelworker Cobalion Iron Head vs. 252 HP / 196+ Def Gholdengo: 95-112 (25.1 - 29.6%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
252 Atk Iron Plate Steelworker Cobalion Iron Head vs. 248 HP / 0 Def Mollux: 141-167 (35.8 - 42.4%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252 Atk Iron Plate Steelworker Cobalion Iron Head vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Landorus-Therian: 264-312 (69.1 - 81.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Iron Plate Steelworker Cobalion Bullet Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Dragapult: 154-183 (48.5 - 57.7%) -- 94.5% chance to 2HKO
252 Atk Iron Plate Steelworker Cobalion Bullet Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Kyurem: 266-314 (68 - 80.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Iron Plate Steelworker Cobalion Bullet Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Darkrai: 133-157 (47.3 - 55.8%) -- 78.5% chance to 2HKO
252 Atk Fist Plate Cobalion Close Combat vs. 248 HP / 224+ Def Arghonaut: 186-219 (45 - 53%) -- 0.4% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 Atk Fist Plate Cobalion Close Combat vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Ogerpon-Wellspring: 280-331 (93 - 109.9%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO
252 Atk Fist Plate Cobalion Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Alomomola: 204-240 (38.2 - 44.9%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252+ SpA Protosynthesis Raging Bolt Thunderclap vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Cobalion: 274-324 (87.8 - 103.8%) -- 25% chance to OHKO
0 SpA Pecharunt Hex (65 BP) vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Cobalion: 102-121 (32.6 - 38.7%) -- 99.3% chance to 3HKO
+2 252+ Atk Supreme Overlord 5 allies fainted Kingambit Sucker Punch vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Cobalion: 221-261 (70.8 - 83.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Iron Plate Steelworker Cobalion Iron Head vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Pecharunt: 160-190 (42.1 - 50%) -- 0.4% chance to 2HKO
252 Atk Iron Plate Steelworker Cobalion Iron Head vs. 244 HP / 36 Def Gliscor: 195-229 (55.3 - 65%) -- 96.9% chance to 2HKO after Poison Heal
252 Atk Iron Plate Steelworker Cobalion Iron Head vs. 104 HP / 0 Def Kitsunoh: 139-164 (42.5 - 50.1%) -- 0.4% chance to 2HKO
252 Atk Iron Plate Steelworker Cobalion Iron Head vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Multiscale Cresceidon: 111-131 (30.4 - 35.9%) -- 45.4% chance to 3HKO
252 Atk Iron Plate Steelworker Cobalion Iron Head vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Great Tusk: 192-226 (51.7 - 60.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Iron Plate Steelworker Cobalion Iron Head vs. 40 HP / 0 Def Hemogoblin: 273-322 (82.4 - 97.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Iron Plate Steelworker Cobalion Iron Head vs. 252 HP / 16 Def Slowking-Galar: 288-339 (73 - 86%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Iron Plate Steelworker Cobalion Iron Head vs. 248 HP / 248+ Def Moltres: 94-111 (24.5 - 28.9%) -- 99.8% chance to 4HKO
252 Atk Iron Plate Steelworker Cobalion Iron Head vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Gholdengo: 127-150 (40.3 - 47.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252 Atk Iron Plate Steelworker Cobalion Iron Head vs. 252 HP / 196+ Def Gholdengo: 95-112 (25.1 - 29.6%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
252 Atk Iron Plate Steelworker Cobalion Iron Head vs. 248 HP / 0 Def Mollux: 141-167 (35.8 - 42.4%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252 Atk Iron Plate Steelworker Cobalion Iron Head vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Landorus-Therian: 264-312 (69.1 - 81.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Iron Plate Steelworker Cobalion Bullet Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Dragapult: 154-183 (48.5 - 57.7%) -- 94.5% chance to 2HKO
252 Atk Iron Plate Steelworker Cobalion Bullet Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Kyurem: 266-314 (68 - 80.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Iron Plate Steelworker Cobalion Bullet Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Darkrai: 133-157 (47.3 - 55.8%) -- 78.5% chance to 2HKO
252 Atk Fist Plate Cobalion Close Combat vs. 248 HP / 224+ Def Arghonaut: 186-219 (45 - 53%) -- 0.4% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 Atk Fist Plate Cobalion Close Combat vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Ogerpon-Wellspring: 280-331 (93 - 109.9%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO
252 Atk Fist Plate Cobalion Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Alomomola: 204-240 (38.2 - 44.9%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252+ SpA Protosynthesis Raging Bolt Thunderclap vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Cobalion: 274-324 (87.8 - 103.8%) -- 25% chance to OHKO
0 SpA Pecharunt Hex (65 BP) vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Cobalion: 102-121 (32.6 - 38.7%) -- 99.3% chance to 3HKO
+2 252+ Atk Supreme Overlord 5 allies fainted Kingambit Sucker Punch vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Cobalion: 221-261 (70.8 - 83.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
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Okay so it has been a good minute (I got sick and then had been extremely busy irl) but it looks like there has only been 1 submission for AT Venom-E's stats so by default congrats to viol and bass and also congrats to YamiTheYin for the art for AT Chuggalong 2.
Now for some sad news (yet I feel like some knew this was coming)...I think for now this project is gonna be put on hiatus. Loads of people have participated and had fun over the last 5 months but I think to kinda build up some interest back into this, it is time I take a step away and give this some time to breathe and marinate before picking it back up/reviving it.
I will leave this thread open for any art/flavor that one would want to submit for AT Venomicon for about a week or so but after that, I will close it for the foreseeable future. Thank y'all for a good time and I hope one day this can come back strong and we can have some more fun with it ;~; <3
Now for some sad news (yet I feel like some knew this was coming)...I think for now this project is gonna be put on hiatus. Loads of people have participated and had fun over the last 5 months but I think to kinda build up some interest back into this, it is time I take a step away and give this some time to breathe and marinate before picking it back up/reviving it.
I will leave this thread open for any art/flavor that one would want to submit for AT Venomicon for about a week or so but after that, I will close it for the foreseeable future. Thank y'all for a good time and I hope one day this can come back strong and we can have some more fun with it ;~; <3
Ready for the finale (or so)
Flavour Abilities: Cheek Pouch | Thermal Exchange
CAP: It concocts intoxicating poisons by fermenting berries in its gut which it then belches. This Pokémon is a prehistoric relative to Salandit.
1 Scratch
1 Tar Shot
4 Power Trip
8 Stuff Cheeks
16 Poison Fang
21 Recycle
26 Thief
31 Venoshock
40 Poison Jab
47 Foul Play
54 Toxic
61 Meteor Beam
69 Belch
1 Tar Shot
4 Power Trip
8 Stuff Cheeks
16 Poison Fang
21 Recycle
26 Thief
31 Venoshock
40 Poison Jab
47 Foul Play
54 Toxic
61 Meteor Beam
69 Belch
Amorphous, Monster
Fake Out
Stockpile
Swallow
Spit Up
Fake Out
Stockpile
Swallow
Spit Up
TM001: Take Down
TM006: Scary Face
TM007: Protect
TM008: Fire Fang
TM009: Thunder Fang
TM013: Acid Spray
TM018: Thief
TM020: Trailblaze
TM023: Charge Beam
TM025: Facade
TM026: Poison Tail
TM030: Snarl
TM031: Metal Claw
TM044: Dragon Tail
TM045: Venoshock
TM047: Endure
TM056: Bullet Seed
TM057: False Swipe
TM061: Shadow Claw
TM062: Foul Play
TM063: Psychic Fangs
TM066: Body Slam
TM070: Sleep Talk
TM071: Seed Bomb
TM078: Dragon Claw
TM079: Dazzling Gleam
TM080: Metronome
TM083: Poison Jab
TM085: Rest
TM087: Taunt
TM091: Toxic Spikes
TM094: Dark Pulse
TM095: Leech Life
TM100: Dragon Dance
TM101: Power Gem
TM102: Gunk Shot
TM103: Substitute
TM108: Crunch
TM114: Shadow Ball
TM115: Dragon Pulse
TM117: Hyper Voice
TM130: Helping Hand
TM133: Earth Power
TM134: Reversal
TM148: Sludge Bomb
TM152: Giga Impact
TM156: Outrage
TM157: Overheat
TM163: Hyper Beam
TM165: Flare Blitz
TM171: Tera Blast
TM172: Roar
TM175: Toxic
TM179: Smack Down
TM181: Knock Off
TM182: Bug Bite
TM183: Super Fang
TM184: Vacuum Wave
TM185: Lunge
TM189: Heat Crash
TM191: Uproar
TM195: Burning Jealousy
TM199: Lash Out
TM202: Pain Split
TM204: Double-Edge
TM207: Temper Flare
TM209: Muddy Water
TM214: Sludge Wave
TM220: Meteor Beam
TM221: Throat Chop
TM222: Breaking Swipe
TM226: Dragon Cheer
TM006: Scary Face
TM007: Protect
TM008: Fire Fang
TM009: Thunder Fang
TM013: Acid Spray
TM018: Thief
TM020: Trailblaze
TM023: Charge Beam
TM025: Facade
TM026: Poison Tail
TM030: Snarl
TM031: Metal Claw
TM044: Dragon Tail
TM045: Venoshock
TM047: Endure
TM056: Bullet Seed
TM057: False Swipe
TM061: Shadow Claw
TM062: Foul Play
TM063: Psychic Fangs
TM066: Body Slam
TM070: Sleep Talk
TM071: Seed Bomb
TM078: Dragon Claw
TM079: Dazzling Gleam
TM080: Metronome
TM083: Poison Jab
TM085: Rest
TM087: Taunt
TM091: Toxic Spikes
TM094: Dark Pulse
TM095: Leech Life
TM100: Dragon Dance
TM101: Power Gem
TM102: Gunk Shot
TM103: Substitute
TM108: Crunch
TM114: Shadow Ball
TM115: Dragon Pulse
TM117: Hyper Voice
TM130: Helping Hand
TM133: Earth Power
TM134: Reversal
TM148: Sludge Bomb
TM152: Giga Impact
TM156: Outrage
TM157: Overheat
TM163: Hyper Beam
TM165: Flare Blitz
TM171: Tera Blast
TM172: Roar
TM175: Toxic
TM179: Smack Down
TM181: Knock Off
TM182: Bug Bite
TM183: Super Fang
TM184: Vacuum Wave
TM185: Lunge
TM189: Heat Crash
TM191: Uproar
TM195: Burning Jealousy
TM199: Lash Out
TM202: Pain Split
TM204: Double-Edge
TM207: Temper Flare
TM209: Muddy Water
TM214: Sludge Wave
TM220: Meteor Beam
TM221: Throat Chop
TM222: Breaking Swipe
TM226: Dragon Cheer
Time for a Finale!
Couldn’t leave this wonderful thread without doing some flavor for AT Venom!!
Broilbaron-Scrapper
The Furnace Pokemon
Steel/Fighting
Ability: Well-Baked Body
Broilbaron-Smelted
The Furnace Pokemon
Steel/Fighting
Ability: Steelworker
Based on crabs and mantis shrimp, forges and robots!
I also designed the transformation item I named the Igneous Iron.
P.S: This thread has been one of the best things I participated in all year. I’ve been able to make so many designs I’m proud of and improve as a CAP contributor. To kenn , thank you immensely for this project, I hope this parting gift was worth the wait. I await this project’s inevitable return :D.
Couldn’t leave this wonderful thread without doing some flavor for AT Venom!!
Broilbaron-Scrapper
The Furnace Pokemon
Steel/Fighting
Ability: Well-Baked Body
Broilbaron-Smelted
The Furnace Pokemon
Steel/Fighting
Ability: Steelworker
Based on crabs and mantis shrimp, forges and robots!
I also designed the transformation item I named the Igneous Iron.
P.S: This thread has been one of the best things I participated in all year. I’ve been able to make so many designs I’m proud of and improve as a CAP contributor. To kenn , thank you immensely for this project, I hope this parting gift was worth the wait. I await this project’s inevitable return :D.
And now my turn to furnish the finale.
CAP: It smashes rocks with its robust, club-like claws, which it then consumes and heats up to a molten state inside its shell to produce rare alloys.
1 Vise Grip
1 Bullet Punch
6 Harden
9 Rock Smash
13 Flame Charge
17 Iron Defense
21 Incinerate
25 Scorching Sands
29 Smart Strike
35 Body Press
39 Wide Guard
45 Reversal
51 Crabhammer
57 Overheat
63 Hard Press
1 Bullet Punch
6 Harden
9 Rock Smash
13 Flame Charge
17 Iron Defense
21 Incinerate
25 Scorching Sands
29 Smart Strike
35 Body Press
39 Wide Guard
45 Reversal
51 Crabhammer
57 Overheat
63 Hard Press
TM001: Take Down
TM006: Scary Face
TM007: Protect
TM021: Pounce
TM025: Facade
TM027: Aerial Ace
TM031: Metal Claw
TM038: Flame Charge
TM043: Fling
TM047: Endure
TM049: Sunny Day
TM051: Sandstorm
TM053: Smart Strike
TM055: Dig
TM057: False Swipe
TM058: Brick Break
TM061: Shadow Claw
TM062: Foul Play
TM064: Bulk Up
TM066: Body Slam
TM067: Fire Punch
TM068: Thunder Punch
TM070: Sleep Talk
TM073: Drain Punch
TM079: Dazzling Gleam
TM080: Metronome
TM082: Thunder Wave
TM085: Rest
TM088: Swords Dance
TM089: Body Press
TM093: Flash Cannon
TM099: Iron Head
TM103: Substitute
TM104: Iron Defense
TM105: X-Scissor
TM107: Will-O-Wisp
TM116: Stealth Rock
TM117: Hyper Voice
TM118: Heat Wave
TM121: Heavy Slam
TM130: Helping Hand
TM134: Reversal
TM136: Electric Terrain
TM147: Wild Charge
TM152: Giga Impact
TM157: Overheat
TM158: Focus Blast
TM163: Hyper Beam
TM167: Close Combat
TM170: Steel Beam
TM171: Tera Blast
TM179: Smack Down
TM180: Gyro Ball
TM181: Knock Off
TM185: Lunge
TM188: Scald
TM189: Heat Crash
TM191: Uproar
TM192: Focus Punch
TM205: Endeavor
TM207: Temper Flare
TM210: Supercell Slam
TM215: Scorching Sands
TM219: Skitter Smack
TM221: Throat Chop
TM223: Metal Sound
TM224: Curse
TM225: Hard Press
TM229: Upper Hand
TM006: Scary Face
TM007: Protect
TM021: Pounce
TM025: Facade
TM027: Aerial Ace
TM031: Metal Claw
TM038: Flame Charge
TM043: Fling
TM047: Endure
TM049: Sunny Day
TM051: Sandstorm
TM053: Smart Strike
TM055: Dig
TM057: False Swipe
TM058: Brick Break
TM061: Shadow Claw
TM062: Foul Play
TM064: Bulk Up
TM066: Body Slam
TM067: Fire Punch
TM068: Thunder Punch
TM070: Sleep Talk
TM073: Drain Punch
TM079: Dazzling Gleam
TM080: Metronome
TM082: Thunder Wave
TM085: Rest
TM088: Swords Dance
TM089: Body Press
TM093: Flash Cannon
TM099: Iron Head
TM103: Substitute
TM104: Iron Defense
TM105: X-Scissor
TM107: Will-O-Wisp
TM116: Stealth Rock
TM117: Hyper Voice
TM118: Heat Wave
TM121: Heavy Slam
TM130: Helping Hand
TM134: Reversal
TM136: Electric Terrain
TM147: Wild Charge
TM152: Giga Impact
TM157: Overheat
TM158: Focus Blast
TM163: Hyper Beam
TM167: Close Combat
TM170: Steel Beam
TM171: Tera Blast
TM179: Smack Down
TM180: Gyro Ball
TM181: Knock Off
TM185: Lunge
TM188: Scald
TM189: Heat Crash
TM191: Uproar
TM192: Focus Punch
TM205: Endeavor
TM207: Temper Flare
TM210: Supercell Slam
TM215: Scorching Sands
TM219: Skitter Smack
TM221: Throat Chop
TM223: Metal Sound
TM224: Curse
TM225: Hard Press
TM229: Upper Hand
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