Wish For Mercy (RMT)

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Kirby119

My newest RMT Special thanks to Arp1 for helping me make this team.
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Gengar @ Focus Sash
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 6 HP/252 Spd/252 SAtk
Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Hypnosis
- Shadow Ball
- Thunderbolt
- Energy Ball/ Focus Blast

Comments - Basically meant to use hypnosis. Energy ball is to kill Swampert or other water types with the ability to resist electric. Focus blast over Energy Ball my be a good idea but energy ball is also good too. Focus Sash also helps you live many attacks that will ohko you then come back and kill them; like Salamence without Dragon Dance that have sash, but if they do have Dragon Dance they would have wasted there time because I have sash to protect from the ohko. Some counters are Azelf and Aerodactyl with taunt and sash. Ruining the Hypnosis.
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Blissey @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/6 SDef
Calm nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Seismic Toss
- Thunder Wave
- Softboiled
- Aromatherapy

Comments - Basically the average Blissey from emerald. Except the fact it walls anything Zapdos can't due to the fact it has no SDef Evs. Also it cures all the statuses problems there are with Aromatherapy. Thunder wave is for the paralazation halfing the foes speed and then switching in or seismic tossing them if my Blisseys Hp gets to low then Softboil. Or if I need to switch, switch to Zapdos or Gengar predicting there gonna use Earthquake or a fighting type move. Also meant to counter the common Latias of today
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Scizor @ Choice Band
Ability: Technician
EVs: 200 HP/252 Atk/58 Spd
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Bullet Punch
- Superpower
- Pursuit
- X-Scissor
Well I have gotten a BUNCH of people telling me that a CB Scizor would work on this team so here it is. Bullet Punch is to break sashes and go first, Also a Really common move for him. Superpower is to kill pokes like Snorlax, Blissey and others. Pursuit is for the pediction switch. X-Scizzor for a STAB and dark/psycic types

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Pikachu @ Light Ball
Ability: Static
EVs: 4 HP /252 Spd/252 SAtk
Naive nature (+Spd, -Def)
- Thunderbolt
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Grass Knot
- Substitute

Pikachu may be uu, but he has a decent ammount of Speed and SpAtk and After 1 Nasty Plot he gets about 597 Sp Atk. HP Ice is to kill dragons that come in and Earthquake. Thunderbolt is Pikachus Main attack and does alot after Nasty Plot + STAB. Grass Knot is For Hevey Pokemon and Swampert.

Personal Comments: Yes I like using Pikachu but i know how to Use him and He can be good at the right time. I almost got 5-0d without pikachu and ended up 2-0ing him. I like to use Raikou but I don't use him alot because he get killed before I can set up or kill a poke with him. Even Though calm minding Incresses 2 stats It takes longer to set up but with Pikachu he Will have 597 Sp Atk after 1 Nasty Plot (I think). In my opinion Pikachu is Better then Raikou. I don't care what you think. Go ahead and block my because of my personal opinion I don't care.


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Latias @ Choice Specs
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 138 HP/252 Spd/120 SAtk
Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Draco Meteor
- Grass Knot
- Thunderbolt
- Surf

Comment:
After you switch to Latias then use Draco Meteor with Specs and Ohko whatever pokemon they send out next. Latias is used mostly in the beggining and end of the game. You'll just have to make sure its not your lat pokemon alive or you could be in trouble. Grass Knot is for Swampert and other Water types that resist Electricity. Thunder Bolt is for Any Flying types. Draco Meteor is meant to just ohko any Dragons and other pokemon that can't live a Draco Meteor. Surf is Meant to 2hko any Tyranitars to switch in and Pursuit you predicting that Surf would 3hko them. Also Surf is used to fire types like Heatran and Infernape.
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Gyarados @ Leftovers
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 158 HP/108 Atk/24 Def/144 Spd/76 SDef
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Dragon Dance
- Waterfall
- Stone Edge
- Taunt

Dragon Dance is always on Gyarados. The bulkyness of this Gyarados is lets it live a couple attacks and get some Dragon Dances up. Taunt is meant to keep Skarmory or other pokemon with Roar/Whirlwind from using it. Taunt also keeps Scizors from setting up. Waterfall is for the obvious stab on Gyarados's move pool. Stone Edge is for other Gyrados and Flying types.

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I really don't think you should use Pikachu if you really want your team to be highly competitive and win you games. Despite the surprise factor and chance of gaining a Nasty Plot, Pikachu really isn't quick enough to make the most use of it. I also think you're relatively weak to Scizor, despite having Gyarados. If your opponent gets Stealth Rock on the field, which is obviously very likely, Gyarados will be worn down quickly by powerful U-turns, Stealth Rock damage and any other damage it will take as I'd imagine it's also your primary switch-in to most Fighting-types (namely Lucario, Heracross).

I'm also not a fan of haivng no Rock- or Dragon-type resist or Steel-type on a team these days. Choice Band Tyranitar is going to maul you every time it gets a switch-in on Blissey, Pikachu or Latias and Heracross locked into an ill-effective attack (such as Pursuit, Thunderbolt or a weakened Draco Meteor). A Steel-type is going to aid you incredibly, as the majority can take everything Scizor throws at them rather well (and you can get to Gyarados, Gengar or even Latias or Heracross on predicted Superpowers). Also, it'll add a Rock-, Dragon-, Ice- and potential Dark-, Ghost-, and Flying-type resist and Poison immunity to the team.

Picking which Steel-type to use to replace Pikachu could be difficult as you'll probably want something moderately defensive as I'd expect it to have to take a few hits. But due to the nature of your team, I'd expect you to want to do some damage as well. I'd imagine you may try to sweep late game with Gyarados more often than not, rather than any other member of your team. So this is something you'll want to be able to hit hard, and take a lot of hits Gyarados might've had to risk prior to its addition.

Metagross is the one that stands out as an ideal candidate. You can avoid Tyranitar's Stone Edge thanks to your Steel-type and high Defence. Crunch is still going to hurt, but you really have no way around that anyway unless you can risk Heracross switching in or you want to change another team member (possibly Machamp over Heracross). Earthquake hurts even more, but you do have Gengar, Heracross, Latias, and Gyarados to help avoid Earthquake if you predict correctly. If they're running Aqua Tail over Earthquake (which I feel most people should even if the statistics don't show that completely) that just means Metagross, Gyarados and Latias have more of a chance to hurt it.

Metagross can play a few different roles for you, so it's your decision on which one you want the most. You can give it Stealth Rock and play more of a support game (but still with three attacking moves) if you really want those rocks in play (which I'd advise since Salamence could give you a bit of trouble if it Dragon Dances). You can just go for four attacks, probably making use of Explosion or Bullet Punch to eliminate big threats, or even try to allow Metagross to sweep in the mid- or late-game utilizing an Agility set.

I'd really suggest trying out all three versions to see which gives you the best results. Good luck.
 
I suggest changing Heracross's item into a Scarf so it can actually revenge kill stuff that could potentially sweep your team. Togekiss, Dragonite, and Gyarados are the only OU fliers that are slower than you. Two of them will likely have a Dragon Dance under their belt anyway. Scarf allows you to outspeed the faster fliers and KO them.
 
I'm just going to make a quick suggestion but Pikachu is out of place and if you want a more competitive team you might want to consider another pokemon. If you really want an electric type with more offensive threat, I suggest SubCM Raikou.

Raikou @ Leftovers
Timid
EV: 68 HP / 116 SpA / 72 SpD / 252 Spe

-Substitute
-Calm Mind
-Thunderbolt
-Hp [Ice]

The EV's are ripped out straight from the analysis because it is the most successful one. This guy adds more threat offensively on your special side and the electric pokemon you desire. The set is simply you Sub on a predicted switch out and you presume to CM. Back to your team, your lead needs some tweaking, I won't suggest another pokemon because it might upset you but you need Focus Blast in place of Hypnosis which is a really shaky accuracy (almost like Fissure, Sheer Cold, etc.) Focus Blast allows you to OHKO 252 HP Tyranitar almost all the time and it gives you a chance to beat it. Latias needs Draco Meteor / Dragon Pulse / Surf / Trick and max attack. With Grass knot it won't be doing much to your common switch ins. If you want to keep thunderbolt replace Dragon Pulse if you like. The EV's need max SpA for more raw power. Timid 6 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Speed is the EV spread you need for SpecsLatias. As a whole I didn't change much because I would be fixing the entire team, it seems like you need some tweaking on some parts but I just fixed some major ones, good luck with this team.
 
Dude I WIN my Games and I use this team comptetively.

Havak said:
I really don't think you should use Pikachu if you really want your team to be highly competitive and win you games. Despite the surprise factor and chance of gaining a Nasty Plot, Pikachu really isn't quick enough to make the most use of it. I also think you're relatively weak to Scizor, despite having Gyarados. If your opponent gets Stealth Rock on the field, which is obviously very likely, Gyarados will be worn down quickly by powerful U-turns, Stealth Rock damage and any other damage it will take as I'd imagine it's also your primary switch-in to most Fighting-types (namely Lucario, Heracross).

I'm also not a fan of haivng no Rock- or Dragon-type resist or Steel-type on a team these days. Choice Band Tyranitar is going to maul you every time it gets a switch-in on Blissey, Pikachu or Latias and Heracross locked into an ill-effective attack (such as Pursuit, Thunderbolt or a weakened Draco Meteor). A Steel-type is going to aid you incredibly, as the majority can take everything Scizor throws at them rather well (and you can get to Gyarados, Gengar or even Latias or Heracross on predicted Superpowers). Also, it'll add a Rock-, Dragon-, Ice- and potential Dark-, Ghost-, and Flying-type resist and Poison immunity to the team.

Picking which Steel-type to use to replace Pikachu could be difficult as you'll probably want something moderately defensive as I'd expect it to have to take a few hits. But due to the nature of your team, I'd expect you to want to do some damage as well. I'd imagine you may try to sweep late game with Gyarados more often than not, rather than any other member of your team. So this is something you'll want to be able to hit hard, and take a lot of hits Gyarados might've had to risk prior to its addition.

Metagross is the one that stands out as an ideal candidate. You can avoid Tyranitar's Stone Edge thanks to your Steel-type and high Defence. Crunch is still going to hurt, but you really have no way around that anyway unless you can risk Heracross switching in or you want to change another team member (possibly Machamp over Heracross). Earthquake hurts even more, but you do have Gengar, Heracross, Latias, and Gyarados to help avoid Earthquake if you predict correctly. If they're running Aqua Tail over Earthquake (which I feel most people should even if the statistics don't show that completely) that just means Metagross, Gyarados and Latias have more of a chance to hurt it.

Metagross can play a few different roles for you, so it's your decision on which one you want the most. You can give it Stealth Rock and play more of a support game (but still with three attacking moves) if you really want those rocks in play (which I'd advise since Salamence could give you a bit of trouble if it Dragon Dances). You can just go for four attacks, probably making use of Explosion or Bullet Punch to eliminate big threats, or even try to allow Metagross to sweep in the mid- or late-game utilizing an Agility set.

I'd really suggest trying out all three versions to see which gives you the best results. Good luck.
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If you wanted advice you should take it. Pikachu is utterly useless, his Speed is pathetic for a stat up sweeper, and he has no instant threat factor. Metagross would really help you out. If I posted an RMT containing Charmeleon and said 'this is my opinion I don't care what you think' what would you say to that?
 
Thank You. Someone that respects my opinion.

MummyFish said:
I'd think you were a dick.

But cut the man a break -- if he wants use pikachu it's his prerogative. I would recommend the mixed-sub punch set though, as overall this one does more damage, plus without it you are easily walled by blissey. (who keeps bliss in on a heracross?
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Some quick advice: drop Hypnosis on Gengar, it's accuracy has dropped to a lousy 60 in Platinum. Either run Energy Ball and Focus Blast together or drop EB (the only things it hits hard are Swampert and Rhyperior) for Destiny Bond, which can net some unexpected KOs.
 
I agree with not using pikachu. If I were u I would make gengar the special sweeper. He has higher speed and far better typing. Try using this moveset:

Gengar@Life Orb
Timid
4 HP/ 252 SAtk/ 252 Spd
-T-Bolt
-Shadowball
-Focus Blast
-Energyball/ Explosion/ Hypnosis

This set lets him sweep fairly easily. Energyball or explosion are prefered but hypnosis can still be used. If you go for explosion then remove about 20 EVs from SAtk and move them to Atk.

For a lead I would highly recomend using metagross. He will provide your team with a much needed SR and being your outrage counter. Explosion is prefered and so is bullet punch. You can go with meteor mash as the last move slot but i would recommend earthquake. Bullet does decent damage and you usually won't get too many oppurtunities to sweep with meteor mash due to low accuracy and the common Flamethrower/ Fire Blast.
As for item I would have occa if you choose to run earthquake to hit infernape. Leftovers works for meteor smash.
 
You're right, he can use whatever he wants. However, when posting a Rate My Team thread, what exactly is the point if you're not going to take any advice on board? If you were expecting something along the lines of "9/10 would rate again" you're sorely mistaken in coming to this board. Pikachu is an extremely situational Pokemon to use - if you don't want to take any advice, then fine, but don't waste everybody's time in the process.
 
Right, we keep Pikachu. Now DDMence rips through your team. So does Kingdra. The only remotely replaceable member is your Heracross. Latias already poses enough of a threat to Celebi as it is. Heracross can be traded in for a CB Scizor. You retain the ability to revenge stuff with Bullet Punch, but you can stop stat up sweepers now with a strong priority. Bullet Punch/Superpower/U-Turn/Pursuit works fine. Scizor is a good initial switchin to Outrage. You could opt for the even more reliable Metagrosss, but then you'll need Bullet Punch (a weaker one too).
 
Just a real quick question, how do you plan on getting Pikachu in, subing up, nasty plotting, then attacking?

I use pikachu on a UU team that is basically built on getting him a free switch and I run a mixed set. He's a great pokemon but you bette have a way to get him in and set a sub up. past that, you wont be able to do anything as fat as nasty plot goes.
 
I just got out of a Battle and 4-0 with NP Pikachu. I admit he can be bad on a team and could be replaced anytime. I have tooken these advices and used them on shoddy. But 1 thing is WHY ARE YOU PEOPLES SPAZING OUT because I use Pikachu. So Far Pikachu has been the most effective on my team.

Mister Militia said:
Just a real quick question, how do you plan on getting Pikachu in, subing up, nasty plotting, then attacking?

I use pikachu on a UU team that is basically built on getting him a free switch and I run a mixed set. He's a great pokemon but you bette have a way to get him in and set a sub up. past that, you wont be able to do anything as fat as nasty plot goes.
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You Have a Point with CB Scizor. He is Better the Hera in typing and Sweeping lol. Scizor also has Technition (<- My Spelling Sucks). My Team is good if you can use it. I don't use NP a lot on Pika and could be replaced with Brick Break or Focus Punch.

Thorns said:
Right, we keep Pikachu. Now DDMence rips through your team. So does Kingdra. The only remotely replaceable member is your Heracross. Latias already poses enough of a threat to Celebi as it is. Heracross can be traded in for a CB Scizor. You retain the ability to revenge stuff with Bullet Punch, but you can stop stat up sweepers now with a strong priority. Bullet Punch/Superpower/U-Turn/Pursuit works fine. Scizor is a good initial switchin to Outrage. You could opt for the even more reliable Metagrosss, but then you'll need Bullet Punch (a weaker one too).
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I have token these advices well and they work out on shoddy. On Shoddy Pikachu does really good.

Blue Kirby said:
You're right, he can use whatever he wants. However, when posting a Rate My Team thread, what exactly is the point if you're not going to take any advice on board? If you were expecting something along the lines of "9/10 would rate again" you're sorely mistaken in coming to this board. Pikachu is an extremely situational Pokemon to use - if you don't want to take any advice, then fine, but don't waste everybody's time in the process.
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Kirby119 said:
So Far Pikachu has been the most effective on my team.
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Your team must suck pretty bad then. Basically the only reason you post a team for rating is to take the suggestions and use them. We're here to help you make the best team possible, not to make it bad. Again, We're here to help, and if you keep doing this, we'll just stop rating your team, ok. Be nice about it, and if the suggestion doesn't work, we'll just keep helping you until its as good as can be ^_^

Anyways, now to help you. First I suggest changing Heracross to a Choice Scarfer to give you team an effective revenge killer. Secondly I also suggest replacing pikachu with metagross, but as a sweeper:

Metagross @ Life Orb
Clear Body
Evs: 48 HP/ 252 Atk/ 12 Def/ 196 spe
Adamant (+Atk, -Def)
- Meteor Mash
- Earthquake
- Thunderpunch
- Agility

This thing is an amazing sweeper, the only thing that walls this is the rotom forms, and even the most defensive of them will take alot of damage. This set is designed to outspeed the Scarfed base 100s like flygon after an agility, and destroy with the desired move. Amazing.

Hope i helped and take in mind what I said earlier.
 
I did take the advices you dumbass read my other comments people like you need to learn how to read and handle your attitude bitch. Plus how does it suck if I said: I 4-0ed them? I just didn't use the advices because they didn't do as good as my pikachu. The only thing that could be as good as pikachu would be Raikou. But I prefer to get x2 Moves

joshe said:
Your team must suck pretty bad then. Basically
the only reason you post a team for rating is to take the suggestions and use them. We're here to help you make the best team possible, not to make it bad. We're here to help, and if you keep doing this, we'll just stop rating your team, ok. Be nice about it, and if the suggestion doesn't work, we'll just keep helping you until its as good as can be ^_^

Anyways, now to help you. First I suggest changing Heracross to a Choice Scarfer to give you team an effective revenge killer. Secondly I also suggest replacing pikachu with metagross, but as a sweeper:

Metagross @ Life Orb
Clear Body
Evs: 48 HP/ 252 Atk/ 12 Def/ 196 spe
Adamant (+Atk, -Def)
- Meteor Mash
- Earthquake
- Thunderpunch
- Agility

This thing is an amazing sweeper, the only thing that walls this is the rotom forms, and even the most defensive of them will take alot of damage. This set is designed to outspeed the Scarfed base 100s like flygon after an agility, and destroy with the desired move. Amazing.

Hope i helped and take in mind what I said earlier.
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Kirby119 said:
I did take the advices you dumbass read my other comments people like you need to learn how to read and handle your attitude bitch. Plus how does it suck if I said: I 4-0ed them? I just didn't use the advices because they didn't do as good as my pikachu. The only thing that could be as good as pikachu would be Raikou. But I prefer to get x2 Moves
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Did you even read my suggestions!?!...It's not even worth it.

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.
 
I would definitly recommend destiny bond in the final slot for your gengar as its a great move that can get you a free KO. I also think the team would really benefit from a steel type to resist outrage. If you go with Choice Band Scizor (probably over heracross) you may be able to use U-Turn to get free pika switch ins.
 
Maybe but IDK, I'll try it on shoddy

Wolfie92 said:
I would definitly recommend destiny bond in the final slot for your gengar as its a great move that can get you a free KO. I also think the team would really benefit from a steel type to resist outrage. If you go with Choice Band Scizor (probably over heracross) you may be able to use U-Turn to get free pika switch ins.
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Right now, Pikachu is utterly, completely walled by Blissey. Brick Break isn't actually a bad option, since Light Ball doubles Pikachu's attack too.
 
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