"WTF is that plant thing, how can I batle a poke I dont know, I cant even look it up"

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The name is a quote from R.O.B. from when I battled him with my new team, I actually lol'ed when he said it, sorry bout grammer, I had to cut it short to fit it in. Anyway My new team is based arround curse cradilly, a forgotten yet amazing pokemon in the sand, who got a new toy, in HGSS and I was shocked to see how few people knew what it was, even less know about suction cups, and most people use special attacks against it.

OK, Team building, I'll keep it short:
- Smeargle, he started the whole thing off, with the belly passer set
- Cradilly, orrginally to take wirlwinds so that smeargle didn't waste his set up and is now my favourite poke.
- Lead Hippowdon to bring the sand, so that cradilly could work effectively
- CB Scizor, Need I say more
- Scarf Latias, for the lati scizor revenge kill combo
- Lucario, for late game sweeping and reciveing the belly drum
- Slowbro, replaced smeargle as I needed a bulky water and a figthing type counter, most notably machamp, and slowbro also handles mence, gyrados and kingdra and others and he also has thunderwave an underatted move that cripple walls and sweepers, while surf keeps off the ground types.
- Gyrados for slowbro, as he has a better typing and more useful ability for my team, I apoligise if slowbro is still mentioned in places.

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Lets start with:
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Lead Hippowdon @ Leftovers
Nature: Relaxed
Ability: Sandstream
Ev's: 252 Hp, 168 Def, 88 sp.def
Moves:
- Stealth rock
- Roar / toxic
- Earthquake
- Slack off

Hippowdon is a great lead because he is very capable of comming in latter on as he has a instant recovery, anothing thing I like about him is base 112 attack, combined with the best stab move, with no drawbacks, 100 base power and suppereffective against five types. Then stealth rocks hits most EQ resistors hard and therfore roar can hurt them by making them take rock damadge again. Toxic is mentioned as with the threat of roar and EQ, most switch ins will likely not sub up, and will likely not be imune to poisen, this combined with sandstorm does make hippowdon one of the best toxic stallers in the game.


Next my second physical wall, the rest talker.
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Gyrados @ Leftovers
Impish
Intimidate
252 Hp, 252 def, 4 spd
- Waterfall
- Stone edge
- Rest
- Sleeptalk
Intimidate stops many physical attackers form sweeping, even if gyrados can't handle them it allows someone else to, it allows gives curse cradilly and lucario a chance to set up on some oponents. Waterfall and stone edge have great type coverage and hits salamence and heatran for super effecive damadge. I don't need dragon dance as this set is not meant for sweeping. Rest allows gyrados to abosrb status and sleep talk makes up for stone edges bad pp, while gyrados's bulkyness makes up for the low accuracy. Aqua tail is an option as gyrados can afford to miss and the extra power could be useful while flinch is not as needed without access dragon dance. I know many teams that relly on stealth rocks and status to beat gyrados but rest and sleep talk solves this problem and this is a great adition to my team thanks dark scizor for the sugestion.


he needs no introduction:
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Scizor @ Choice band
Adamant
252 atk, 248 hp, 8 speed
- Bullet punch
- U-turn
- Supperpower
- Pursuit

A standard scizor and not much can change to it. I always feel the choice of pursuit should be quick attack as standard and pursuit if you need it. I feel this team could do with pursuit for starmie, gengar etc and bullet punch nearly does as much as quick attack against infernape and foes. I often embrace the moto if in doubt u-turn out, but I am quite good with superpower predictions and I have hit many a scizor counter for the OHKO before now, but im not so well experence with pursuit predicting and I useually get the decision wrong, but pursuit is useful for the getting 100% checkmate on some foes. Scizor also scouts out lucario counters such as gliscor and can u-turn into latias for the KO and is very useful for planning a Lucario sweep.

The revenger
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Latias @ choice scarf
Modest (for sweeping)
Levitate (I chose for Eq, oh wait I don't get a choice)
252 sp.atk, 252 speed, 4 hp
- Dracco meteor / trick
- Thunderbolt / trick
- Surf /trick
- Dragon pulse / trick

I couldn't decide which move should be replaced with trick so I have all of them. Dracco meteor is such a powerful move and is why latias is a great scarfed poke, T-bolt is for water tybes who threaten hippowdon, Surf is for heatran amoungst others, and dragon pulse is for late game scarf sweeps, and helps deter revenge killers as it doesn't lower my special attack. I don't feel I need trick on this team as billsey does not threaten me, but I am always open to suggestions and any move on the set can be switched with trick. Latias is very good at eradicating lucario counters

The plant poke
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HGSS Splat (nickname)
Careful
Suction cups
252 hp, 160 def, 96 sp.def
- Curse
- Rock slide
- Recover
- EQ
Cradilly is probably the best curser in the game, being the only one who can set up in the face of zapdos and skarmory with an imunity to roar/wirlwind, with a great duel typing from its attacks and an instant recovery move, although status hurts, I can easily switch out cradilly and set up again latter. Cradilly only has 3 weaknesses, most people know the fighting weakness, but with no curses I can take an infernape CC and OHKO with EQ, and Gyrados can handle fighting types well. The second is ice and is often remebred but with uber special defence, the common icebeamers like cresselia, blissey have low special attack and lefties almost negates the damdge and the third steel weakness is nearly allways forgotten, I face a metagross who use EQ, because he thought Meteor mash was resisted. Cradily also has better defences than curselax. Although cradilly cannot function without sand, I personally think with curse she will make it BL, she is the top KO scorer on my team so far. Cradily is very effective at tearing through the midgame and opeoning it up for a lucario sweep

With the ev's and SS boost cradily reaches 376 hp, 270 defence (better defences than bold 252 vaporeon and bold 252 milotic), with 451 special defence. Also cradilly with 252 hp, 252 spdef actually takes special hits better than a bold blissey with 252 hp, 252 defence, while it may not seem like much she is the only pokemon I know capable of doing that with access to instant recovery.

Although she is lacking natural cure/imunity cradily definately rivals snorlax and suction cups is arguably a better ability, and with the addition of curse in my opinion she beats blissey as a special wall on an SS team.

The SS sweeper
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Lucario @ Life orb
Adamant
Inner focus
252 atk, 252 speed, 4 hp
- Sword dance
- Close combat
- Extreame speed
- Crunch

The best late game sweeper, he had not seen any action until gyrados came on. I think its gyrados's typing and move pool allowing me to take on many Lucario counters and bring in the steel jackle for some pawning time. This pokemon is so unbelivebly powerful, and with the rest of my team handleing his counters after 1 sword dance, it really is GG.

Here's a list of his counters (Blue needs weakening, red needs killing):
Zapdos: Cradilly, latias and stealth rocks, even if he has hp ice (scouted by scizor, u-turn into counter)
Gliscor: Gyrados and latias (scouted by scizor, u-turn into counter)
Salamence: Takes an ES on full health, Latias, scizor, cradilly, gyrados and hippowdon (depending on the set)
Hippowdon: Weaken to 80%
Donphan: Weaken to 90%
Cress: Weaken to 60% (if it has t-wave or physchic)
Gyrados: Weaken allot, SR, gyrados, latias, cradily after 1 curse (scouted by scizor, u-turn into counter)
Spiritomb: Scizor, gyrados, latias, hippowdon cradilly weaken
Scarftran: Take's an ES, Gyrados, Latias, Cradilly, even hippowdon (scouted by scizor, u-turn into counter)
Jirachi: Takes ES, hippowdon, cradilly, (maybe gyrados once whole movepool is known)
Scarf Magnezone: Hippowdon, latias, cradilly (depends on locked in move) (scouted by scizor, u-turn into counter)
Scarf Rotom H: Latias, cradilly, crunch earlygame switch in (scouted by scizor, u-turn into counter)

As you can see, gyrados and scizor play a big part in drawing in and defeating most of lucario's counters. The list may seem extream, but SR handles most of the blue threats, and the red threats can be extreame speeded on low health (or pray to hax gods).


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The team has issues
- Gyrados solves the old issues, testing on shoddy and in real battle for new issues

I shall add other issues to the list when I find them and can someone give me a link to pictures on the back of pokes, and a link to a red gyrados as myne is red. Thank you for reading and please rate
 
Thunder Wave isn't that effective on those pokemon you mentioned with Slobro. Both have Natural Cure, so they're not really crippled except right that moment, and both can take Slobro easily.

You're better off, I think, with a ghost-type, to block Explosions and whatnot. Rotom-H is pretty good, since you don't have any Fire attackers for Steels and whatnot, and it also covers Starmie and Celebi. Rotom-C is a possibility too.

Alternatively, Zapdos is decent as you mentioned. Stealth Rock weakness is not that much of a problem with a Roost Zapdos, especially since You have two 4x Resists, one 2x Resist and two Neutrals.

You do have a problem with Dragons, though. Scizor is going to get worn down too quickly to be a reliable switch in to outrage, and if you're trying to save Luke for the endgame where he's most effective, he's not a great switch-in either. Perhaps a Jirachi or Metagross would be usable.
 
Thank you!

Someone finally features a Cradily, which are the best UU walls under sandstorm in my opinion, next to Registeel of course. Im not sure if you would wanna use this set because I think your current Cradily works well with the team, but this set has won me countless matches when battling with my sandstorm team.

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Cradily @ Leftovers
Suction Cups
Calm Nature
232 HP 116 Def 156 SpD
-Barrier
-Toxic
-Recover
-Rock Slide

The sandstorm created by Hippowdon already boosts the Special Defense and after one barrier, Cradily's defenses are through the roof. So then you just rock slide away and toxic stall anything you cant hit with rock slide.
Good Game.
 
Thank you!

Someone finally features a Cradily, which are the best UU walls under sandstorm in my opinion, next to Registeel of course. Im not sure if you would wanna use this set because I think your current Cradily works well with the team, but this set has won me countless matches when battling with my sandstorm team.

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Cradily @ Leftovers
Suction Cups
Calm Nature
232 HP 116 Def 156 SpD
-Barrier
-Toxic
-Recover
-Rock Slide

The sandstorm created by Hippowdon already boosts the Special Defense and after one barrier, Cradily's defenses are through the roof. So then you just rock slide away and toxic stall anything you cant hit with rock slide.
Good Game.

That Calm nature isn't doing rockslide any good. If you want to try this set, change it from Calm to Sassy. You lose a little bit of speed, but Cradily isn't known for that anyways.
 
I Suggest Gyarados over Slowbro, not only for you shared grass weakness with hippowdon, but it does a better job (intimidate) as physical wall. It can also learn T-wave.

I suggest:

Gyarados @ leftovers/ Impish/ intimidate
252 HP, 252 Def, 6 SDef

- Thunder Wave/ Bounce
- Waterfall
- Earhquake/ Stone edge/ Sleep talk
- Rest/ roar

--> Physical wall Gyara. Bounce could also work since it has a 30% chance of paralysing an opponent. Waterfall is for those immune to T-wave, and so you can go with the paraflinch technique. With Earthquake this makes a very good Lucario counter. You can also choose for Stone edge for Salamence/ other Gyarados'. Rest makes it possible to let Gyardos staying around longer. While roar makes it an exellent Phazer.

PS: it Superpower, not Supperpower ^^

Hope I helped!
 
Thunder Wave isn't that effective on those pokemon you mentioned with Slobro. Both have Natural Cure, so they're not really crippled except right that moment, and both can take Slobro easily.

You're better off, I think, with a ghost-type, to block Explosions and whatnot. Rotom-H is pretty good, since you don't have any Fire attackers for Steels and whatnot, and it also covers Starmie and Celebi. Rotom-C is a possibility too.

Alternatively, Zapdos is decent as you mentioned. Stealth Rock weakness is not that much of a problem with a Roost Zapdos, especially since You have two 4x Resists, one 2x Resist and two Neutrals.

You do have a problem with Dragons, though. Scizor is going to get worn down too quickly to be a reliable switch in to outrage, and if you're trying to save Luke for the endgame where he's most effective, he's not a great switch-in either. Perhaps a Jirachi or Metagross would be usable.

I agree with that, cradily can take on mix mence as brick break/ outrage won't OHKO, while stabed rock slide after rocks should do a large chunk and latias can revenge kill any form bar, jolly dd mence, who will be locked into outrage and KOed by sizor/lucario. Zapdos brings in a fourth ice weakness, in stead of resistor. Slowbro can take on mence as he can take an outrage.

Possiblilities:
- Hippowdon could have ice fang/ stone egde over roar?
- EDIT: Blackscizor, thats a brilliant idea, gyrados handles allot of threats and compliments my team nicely, I will go for a rest talk set for taking status aswell, bounce is nice, but return I think is better for walling as pokes will already be trying to set up on a sleeping gyrados and bounce doesn't work when you use sleep talk I think.

Also the double p in superpower is a typing error lol, thanks for pointing it out, I have just checked through myself and spotted some others, but there are probably some other errors in there that are not accidents, but just me being stupid.
 
Hi.

This is the second time you've been in violation of rule 13.

13. You are only permitted to have one active RMT thread open at any given time. Don't post a new team every 2 weeks, wait some time before posting another RMT.

The last post in your other RMT was just 5 days ago. I am locking this and will open it in 9 days.

TAY Edit: lol 'batle'
 
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