Just wanted to pop in and say that jas61292 and Mario with Lasers' last couple of posts were actually exactly what I meant with my post from several pages ago. I blame the fact that I was angry, tired from a 10-hour work shift at my worst job site, hyped up on caffeine, and typing it at about 6:30-7 in the morning for any misrepresentation of my thoughts in that last post.
I'm going to press my luck and make a more thought-out metaphor than my terrible last one on the Drizzle situation. Let's talk football, even though I'm not really interested in it myself. Say the players are the coach, the Pokemon are the players, and Drizzle is a sexy, sexy cheerleader, who became a cheerleader because her boyfriend is on the team. The cheerleader obviously cheers her boyfriend's team on, and they get confidence (Drizzle's boosts) that makes them play better. The other team, on the other hand, gets a moral boost because they're horny young adults (did I mention this is college football? Cause it is) and think, "Man, that sexy sexy teenager is pretty hot, I'll impress her so that she might want me so bad". Even though both teams are getting a boost, the cheerleader's boyfriend's team gets a bigger boost because she came with them, and is cheering them on directly, rather than just being gratified with it's presence.
Now, on the team with the cheerleader, there are different types of players. There are some who aren't very good players, and only the cheerleader's boosts make them even average players. Then there are the average players, who become really good because of the cheerleader. After that, there are the players who are like the last two, only they become so good thanks to the cheerleader that they run circles around the other players, and break bones when they tackle the other team. Finally, there are the all-star players who are already that good without the cheerleader, and she just makes them even better. Now, with these different players getting boosted by this cheerleader, who do you think should be signed to the pros? The cheerleader? No, because she's not the one making plays. You would try to get those last two types of players to sign, since they are a league above the college players.
Also, I'm quite disappointed that nobody said a single thing about the only point I actually cared about, the first hide tag. I mean, it didn't have to be agreement, hell it could have been an embarrassingly harsh criticism for all I cared, I just wanted opinions on it. Maybe it isn't quite topical atm, but oh well.
Ninja_13 said:
For the whole "Testing the individual Swift Swimmers back into OU" thing, I was kinda thinking about this for a while, and was wondering if we might be able to test them backwards at a quicker pace while continuing Suspect Testing (if we would need to at all). What I mean is, we take all the Pokemon that we know are shitty even with Swift Swim, like Magikarp and Luvdisc, and we throw them back into OU. We wait a week, and then have a quick vote on whether anything is too overpowering somehow. If not, then we add in the next-weakest Pokemon in the line and repeat the above. We continue until we reach a point where the newly-added Pokemon breaks OU, at which point we keep that Pokemon in Ubers, and we can either skip to the next one to check if it's broken too, or just preempt how that will end up and keep the other Pokemon above said broken Pokemon in Ubers as well. Either way, Aldaron's Proposal is repealed and the Pokemon found broken are banned as a whole. As far as I can tell, here are some Pros and Cons:
Pros:
1. Can relatively quickly get through SSers
2. Doesn't overwhelm us with shit we are already 99% certain are broken
3. With a list made beforehand, players looking to abuse the more possibly-broken Pokemon can prepare for their temporary unban before it happens.
4. Can be done alongside any standard Suspect testing that may need to be done.
Cons:
1. Said weakest-to-strongest list would have to be made, and even then might not be accurate thanks to being mostly theorymon.
2. Shorter period may not be enough to accurately size each Pokemon up metagame-wise.
3. Would have to assume that Drizzle stays in the metagame, or to prevent that, would have to make Drizzle exempt from suspect testing (which I'm guessing some would not like that).
There are more that I thought of, but I'm such a scatterbrain that I already forgot them.
Thoughts?