But if the usage stats are the only thing we're going off of, shouldn't bad pokemon that get tons of use like cloyster be in OU?
Given that two of your attackers are Choiced, a good set-up sweeper would probably be useful. SD Bisharp might be a good fit; Talonflame and Staraptor can remove many of his counters including Mach Punch users and some physically defensive Ground types, and your U-Turn core can help bring him in safely. If you want some more possible candidates, you can check out the OU Teambuilding OP here for some more ideas.ReadyToRoll said:
Actually, while tiering does go off of usage stats, it goes off the usage stats of players with an ELO of 1760 or higher to avoid the very problem you mentioned. You can find the specific details in this thread. As for the mega stones, I would imagine the issue would have to do with tracking extra stats that would make the lives of the data miners difficult, but somebody who knows more about data mining or the intricacies of tiering should probably explain this.BigBand said:
Usage is the easiest and most reliable way to tier pokemon, assuming, as Dygenguar said, it goes off the usage of more experienced players. It runs on different logic than Ubers does, because Ubers (even though it has its own metagame) is basically just a banlist for OU and so does not run off usage stats. Basically the usage-based logic is, experienced players will naturally gravitate toward the better pokemon. If a pokemon gets used a lot, it may move up a tier. If it gets used hardly at all, it drops down a tier. If it gets used a certain amount and stays in a certain tier, but is too OP for that tier, it goes to that tier's ban list, i.e. Ubers for OU, BL for UU, BL2 for RU, and BL3 for NU.
It's 1760 Glicko, not ELO. Also, RU and NU are based off of 1695 stats.
Oops, my bad on the tiering thing.Magnemite said:
Why does it say fat ginganinja? Why does it say fat before his/her name?
iirc using "fat" while quoting had something to with a joke a long time ago? and it was supposed to be a sort of complimentary thing...not sure heheh but i kinda like it
That's just a humorous little addition to the site. It can't be all business, can it?
If they have, it hasn't been revealed to the public yet. I'm sure they will try to update us when they are fully sure on the decision.
Final Gambit does activate Sucker Punch. Not sure if it affects Ghosts but I would assume not. And if your last Pokemon uses it, you will lose, as it faints your Pokemon first.
Smogon still operates on 6v6 level 100 Singles for most tiers.
Level 50 3v3 is only standard for wifi battles on the cartridge. GF made this change primarily probably so that you did not feel pressured to level all the way to 100. (Many moves that are learned after about level 55 are now also learned at level 1, and so can be learned via the move relearner.)
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Hmm... Support Scizor has always been a bit useless as a pokemon, but I'll see.
There's not really anything. So few pokemon get the move, and the ones that do can't use their Gen V hidden abilities. The trouble is all the viable defoggers are bulky rather than offensive, and primarily physically bulky at that. Not to mention, they're pretty much all flying types (except Scizor and a few unviable mons) who die to t-bolt. Gliscor is immune to t-bolt but dies to surf (not to mention it loses poison heal and can't KO Lati@s anyway).
