K so a lot of shit to respond to:
I'm sorry Mega Altaria need at least A+
The metagame tbh isn't all that kind to Mega Altaria, and the people doing the ranks (i.e. the council, me and a few others) feel that it is not on par with the likes of pinsir-mega and glalie-mega. We feel neither of those are S-rank and that altaria-mega is generally inferior to the other two, and we placed it in A. Im not saying mega altaria is bad or anything of the sort, it is a very good mon, but we feel like its not up to par with the other two -ate megas.
Heatran is definitely viable for Desolate Land sets. It still have that 4x Ground weakness but its definitely viable. I've been running a set like this and it performs quite good so far imo.
Heatran @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Desolate Land
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Eruption
- Solarbeam
- Earth Power/Focus Blast
- Overheat/Fire Blast
Checks Mega Glalie, Mega Pinsir, Refrigerate Weavile and most Primordial Sea users. Earth Power has been kind of useless though, maybe Focus Blast is better.
It doesn't have to run Choice Scarf. Leftovers or Life Orb is usable as well if you want it to switch moves and Rock Polish.
For other Desolate Land users, I haven't used them. Most Fire types are slow (except for Talonflame). Fastest Fire types besides Talonflame is Infernape with 108 Speed and it has kind of underwhelming stats. Delphox is only slower than Infernape by 4 base Speed but has a nice 114 Special Attack. I never see it in battle though.
Seems good enough. Specs Delphox could be a thing, but I think the SR weakness is really holding it back. A slow set for heatran can also use stealth rock, dragon tail, etc. so it could be a very good donor in general and it also counters almost all relevant waters. I'll add it for heatran, this is a nice mix from all the typical defensive sets.
I think Suicune is a little too high, A or A- probably fits it better imho. Another set for Terrakion I have tried out is Guts from Conkeldurr and it has been a great status absorber for my offensive teams with its excellent speed and attack. Infernape also deserves a Rank, probably B/B- as it can run a few sets pretty well, including PrimalDon, Rampardos (for Mold Breaker), Kecleon, and Machamp. Also does Greninja pretty well, as it is pretty fast so it can set spikes up then U-Turn out.
As we have talked about cune, the main thing we felt was that it was actually underrated, but overused. The quiver dance set is not nearly its best set, and unaware doesn't see enough use either. We saw the number of mons it walled and how effective it was and deemed it A+ for its versatility and utility. I'll discuss it again with Adrian.
By far my favorite thing to come out of playing this meta thus far is Quagsire Regirock. It's a hard-stop to all Talonflame variants, it has a neat utility STAB in the form of Rock Tomb, it's in general very bulky and blocks a lot of setup sweepers, it can spread Burns with Scald (I don't care that it lacks STAB and has crap Special Attack, it's still a way to Burn, and in particular a way to get it onto Magic Bouncers), and it's Regirock! As a viable Pokemon! What's not to like?
At first, I thought that it was outclassed by rhypherior, but a closer inspection shows it has a generally better typing while having similar overall bulk. I think that B is a decent place for it, as it has a niche similar to that of Rhyperior but neither outclasses the other (rhyp hits MUCH harder). Also, quagsire has stone edge!
xJownage I think Latios is unquestionably better than A-. Aside from the sets already listed, it can also inherit from reshiram for incredible effect , as I mentioned in this post
Or, another I just thought of,
Mega Lucario (Latios) @ Life orb
Ability: Adaptability
EVs: 252 Spa / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
Psychic
Dragon Pulse
Aura Sphere
Nasty Plot
Lucarios wide movepool can lead to a lot of interesting combinations, many of which have mentioned. With access to adaptability paired with: Espeed for normal types, Aura Spere / focus blast / close combat for fighting types, psychic, dragon pulse, stone edge, crunch and dark pulse, ice punch, etc., it can turn a lot of mons into deadly sweepers / wallbreakers / whatever the heck floats your boat. It also has access to CM, as well as (probably more significantly) NP and SD, to boost your already impressive STABs to ridiculous levels.
Both seem like great sets, but you have to remember the momentum they lose when ranking them, as well as how friendly the metagame is to them. TBH I think the luc-mega set is a bit outclassed by the dragalge set (its not gonna be nasty plotting very often), but the reshiram set is worth the add, and seems like a good set. I can see it in A; will talk to the council.
Terrakion pulls off a great sash Breloom lead
Terrakion @ Focus Sash
Ability: Technician
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Spore
- Swords Dance
- Rock Tomb
- Mach Punch
This set is a lure to the most common Lando answers which are Flash Fire Ferro and Levitate Heatran. This set also doubles as a late game sweeper with Rock Polish (inherited from Ramparados)
Landorus-Therian (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Mold Breaker
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Naughty Nature
- Rock Polish
- Fire Blast
- Stone Edge
- Earthquake
I actually theorymonned the Terrak set about a month ago and will add it, its a pretty good set. Hits decently hard and has nice utility. The lan-t set seems like its not on par with the rest of the S-rank sets, tbh I think its viable but I'm not going to add it since it appears to be a bit less effective than the other sets (remember its not gonna lure anything in when the opp sees moldy).
Greninja @ Life Orb
Ability: Adaptability
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Swords Dance
- Aqua Jet
- Knock Off
- Crabhammer
I am just having a blast with Greninja in Inheritance! This set inherits from Crawdaunt, overcoming its major speed issues in exchange for some less power. It is still very strong with or without a Swords Dance up and the coverage, while not perfect, is still solid with only 2 moves. It has been very successful so far.
Replays:
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/inheritance-222677600
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/inheritance-222681449
This is actually an interesting theorymon and looks good in battle as well, I will add it to greninja as well. It looks like fun to use as well, thanks for sharing.
I kinda hope this becomes an permanent side meta tbh. This is the best OM of the Month I've ever been apart of.
I couldn't agree more :)