Smogon Usage-Based Tier Update: August 2016

[Hourai]

| 66 | Cloyster | 3.646% |


Wow, RU barely dodged a bullet, though it did take another one with Shaymin

 

[Sylveon.]

And Mega Heracross. Glad MHera finally moved up to OU, though.

Yeah, well it was pretty inevitable as mega hera has taken the role of premier stallbreaker of the tier in last few months, though it will decrease as there are more and more doublades just to stop that in stall teams these days

 

[MemeMeme Island]

Stop complaining about Tangrowth

It's a Pokemon that was good in OU, 100 HP and 125 Defense combined with Regenerator is nothing to laugh at, it walls a lot of OU's top tier threats and it's one of the best Grass types in the tier, with only Ferrothorn being a better defensive Grass type and not really sure if SubSeed Serperior counts as a defensive mon or not but whatever. Tangrowth is really fucking good, therefore it was used. RU, you already have Venusaur, and as for Regenerator mons you have Alomomola and Slowking. Shaymin will be banned before you know it so you won't need to complain about "Tangrowth being the only counter." Tbh I'd rather Tangrowth in OU than Amoonguss, but that's just me.

Shame that RU didn't get Goodra though >:(

also FU changes
Rises:
Dusclops
Volbeat
Drops:
Jumpluff
Lickilicky

also FU stop using Flareon and start using the simi trio >:(

 

[Heavyweapons Mann]

The tier changes weren't implemented on the main Showdown server. It still shows the pre-August tiers, such as Slurpuff in UU, Tornadus in BL2, Mega Heracross in BL, and more errors.

 

[Samoyed]

It will be all correct when the server restarts.

 

[Adamant Zoroark]

OU seems to have some kind of fetish for stealing bulky Grass-types from RU

 

[MaahirMomtaz12]

Tangrowth moved from RU to OU

First Amoonguas, now Tang.

You OU muthafuckas better ban Keldeo just sayin.

Why would Keldeo get banned? It's not overcentralizing at all

 

[MaahirMomtaz12]

Yeah that thing deserves more use, it's a great stallbreaker.

I am stoked that Gurdurr's finally back in NU where it belongs, and finally people have given up the Ghost with Trevenant. Sorry that was a terrible pun. But people, if you're using Trevenant in NU, don't use the SubSeed set.

PU got a lot of good stuff. Cacturne is a solid alternative to Leafeon and Sawsbuck, losing out on Speed but having better typing. Smeargle is pretty much only a Sticky Web lead, and with Pelliper back in the tier, hazard stacking won't be that viable. Muk trades Arbok's Speed for power, although the snake has Intimidate so it can set up more easily.

Shaymin could well break RU in half, although it does have its checks.

Shaymin doesn't have that much checks. I can see that getting quickbanned

 

[MaahirMomtaz12]

Stop complaining about Tangrowth

It's a Pokemon that was good in OU, 100 HP and 125 Defense combined with Regenerator is nothing to laugh at, it walls a lot of OU's top tier threats and it's one of the best Grass types in the tier, with only Ferrothorn being a better defensive Grass type and not really sure if SubSeed Serperior counts as a defensive mon or not but whatever. Tangrowth is really fucking good, therefore it was used. RU, you already have Venusaur, and as for Regenerator mons you have Alomomola and Slowking. Shaymin will be banned before you know it so you won't need to complain about "Tangrowth being the only counter." Tbh I'd rather Tangrowth in OU than Amoonguss, but that's just me.

Shame that RU didn't get Goodra though >:(

also FU changes
Rises:
Dusclops
Volbeat
Drops:
Jumpluff
Lickilicky

also FU stop using Flareon and start using the simi trio >:(

LMAO who plays FU

 

[Samoyed]

MaahirMomtaz12 don't quadruple post, merge it into one.
To make this not irrelevant, I'm going to say that I'm really hyped about Shaymin and Rotom F, this was a great tier shift. Betting that Slurpuff will be quick banned.

 

[ceal]

| 32  | Zapdos            |  6.086% |
| 40  | Charizard-Mega-Y  |  5.204% |
| 41  | Charizard-Mega-X  |  5.151% |
| 51 | Heracross-Mega     | 3.711% |

I hate my tier sometimes.

F

In other news, RU is yet again getting barraged by stupidly broken mons. Unlike Honchkrow, there might be more around to check Shaymin/Slurpuff but if they don't get quickbanned they'll just be suspected and banned anyways. I find it hilarious how shit can leave the tier in late XY/early ORAS, come back, and completely wreck the tier (Abomasnow, anyone?) I understand why, but it's still crazy.

 

[DennisEG]

| 37 | Ambipom | 6.771% |
| 48 | Cinccino | 5.318% |
Can't believe people are still using these. Drop them to NU! They'll perform better there

After steelix and tyrantrum got ban thwy become a little more viable

 

[sin(pi)]

| 1    | Landorus-Therian   | 35.370% |
| 2    | Latios             | 21.268% |
| 3    | Heatran            | 19.132% |
| 4    | Garchomp           | 18.782% |
| 5    | Rotom-Wash         | 18.427% |
| 6    | Keldeo             | 18.031% |

cheers for the new team!

 

[Hourai]

After steelix and tyrantrum got ban thwy become a little more viable

They're still really bad though

 

[churine]

| 59 | Vaporeon | 4.422% |


Can we stop using this thing so it can drop to the tier it deserves to be in.

 

[Complicating]

Slurpuff is gonna break the tier in Ru. Shaymin gets banned like Sharpedo. Muk makes a name for itself by playing dirty. Quagsire is still Quagsire no matter what tier it's in. Gurdurr comes back to smack all of its workers back into shape. Trevenant becomes a dominant force in the NU tier with Phantom Force, Horn Leech, Power-Up Punch, Rest holding Lum/Chesto Berry with Harvest (Idk, I don't use Trev that much, but I know that's my main set for it.) PU also becomes one of the funnest tiers in the following few months until Pokemon Sun and Moon get released.
Predictions made. Discuss. Lol. [insert Donald Trump Meme] [Insert Troll]
But no really, these are some pretty interesting changes in the tiers.

 

[SotheBlacKnight]

So much for RU getting Haxorus, Goodra and Cloyster. Still having Slurpuff back will be an interesting twist.

And now NU has Gurdurr back so now we can debate whose the best fighting type again.

 

[DiscoDucky]

Why would Keldeo get banned? It's not overcentralizing at all

it's a joke ffs.

 

[MemeMeme Island]

So much for RU getting Haxorus

You wanted Haxorus to get into RU in the first place?

 

[Seth_]

HERACROSS FINALLY GETS WHAT IT DESERVE

 

[lockjaw]

Pelipper moved from NU to PU
Tangrowth moved from RU to OU
Muk moved from NU to PU
Cacturne moved from NU to PU

 

[Tace]

I can't wait to use shaymin+slurpuff as an offense core in ru!

 

[ericaroselia]

HERACROSS FINALLY GETS WHAT IT DESERVE

Terrakion deserves the same justice.

 

[Kyora]

I can't wait to use shaymin+slurpuff as an offense core in ru!

Lol they will be banned, thy're too powerful for the RU metagame.

 

[sam-testings]

i really dont understand why ou ladder loves zapdos so much, it aint even that good :/

Really excited to see how shaymin and Slurpuff do in RU meta. Without doublade around this time, slurpuff may be far too hard to handle, and shaymin has really spammable powerful STAB that not many thing enjoy switching in on. Registeel can somewhat counter the two i suppose, but it doesnt have reliable recovery so it has to stay healthy forever. We shall see how they do =)