A little while before the games came out, the data was leaked and people saw that there was a Water/Poison type with Regenerator, Recover and 50/152/142 bulk, and some people said “that needs to be banned”.But Landorus does have a number of reliable counters, as listed a number of times in even just this thread. Also HP Ice is a 60BP move and Koko has only 95 base SpAtk, and it still has an 81.3% chance to KO.
Also ban Toxapex has been around since before Sun and Moon? Whut?
It is false Typhosion didn't get banned it just rose to NU by usage.Typhlosion was pu earlier in the gen, but it got banned so this one doesn’t matter that much. Good post though.
Oops yeah you’re right. It probably would have been banned if it didn’t move up by usage, but yeah, that was my bIt is false Typhosion didn't get banned it just rose to NU by usage.
Low ladder RU be like:Stuff I'd like to drop.
Drapion: With Mega Steelix running rampant, this thing has next to no niche. Salazzle can do offensive sets better as it's faster and more powerful; Nidoqueen can do defensive sets better as it can also set up Stealth Rock. In NU this thing was great, so just let it fall again people.
Blastoise: When you're outclassed by Donphan and Dhelmise, that's a sign to move out.
FFS stop complaining. It's PokémonTrue the low RU ladder is terrible - second only to Ubers IMO. Is it that hard for people to read the analyses before plunking unviable stuff on their team?
It's just aggravating to know these Pokemon could be doing so much better in a lower tier, but yet are stuck somewhere they don't belong because some people don't know how to play. In order to get the insane usage RU Donphan has, it can't just be because of young children: There are teens and adults actively using a Pokemon that is by all means terrible.FFS stop complaining. It's Pokémon
They obviously grew up using Donphan in multiple gens so they're attached to it. Keep in mind Donphan was like common in OU back in Gen 5 and I think early Gen 6It's just aggravating to know these Pokemon could be doing so much better in a lower tier, but yet are stuck somewhere they don't belong because some people don't know how to play. In order to get the insane usage RU Donphan has, it can't just be because of young children: There are teens and adults actively using a Pokemon that is by all means terrible.
The analyses don't say anything about any RU Pokemon being completely unviable. In fact, this is the opening sentence of Donphan's RU analysis.True the low RU ladder is terrible - second only to Ubers IMO. Is it that hard for people to read the analyses before plunking unviable stuff on their team?
Donphan is one of the few viable Rapid Spin users in the tier thanks to its great Defense and ability to easily beat the most popular spinblocker in the tier, Doublade.
You do realize it's an old analysis, right?The analyses don't say anything about any RU Pokemon being completely unviable. In fact, this is the opening sentence of Donphan's RU analysis.
My point is that the analysis is part of the problem, not the solution. If the analysis is old, then that's even more of a reason to treat it as unreliable.You do realize it's an old analysis, right?
And do you know why it's old? Because nobody can be bothered to write a new one for such a bad Pokémon. Like, Donphan was once OU in Gen 5, but that was also because of bad players. It even became a meme for some time.My point is that the analysis is part of the problem, not the solution. If the analysis is old, then that's even more of a reason to treat it as unreliable.
That was Ambipom's Generation 6 RU analysis. The first set was literally named "DON'T USE AMBIPOM". I can totally, and would like to, see it happening again.Couldn’t someone just write an analysis saying “don’t use Donphan”? It’s been done with other Pokémon before (albeit ones far less viable).
Edit: Seconds after posting this, I realized that this idea is kinda dumb considering the analyses are supposed to be a serious look at a Pokémon’s role in the meta.
At least Metang eventually dropped from RU.I think the reason they stopped is because they realized how ineffective they were.
I mean hell, at least you're just using Parasect for fun to shake an admittedly somewhat boring tier up a bit, even if it's actually completely unviable. That's pretty different from using Donphan in RU because "it H@s RaP1d SP1n aND ROCKS SO IT OP1e"And te sad thing is, only low ladder uses those unviable mons, and they work quite well low-ladder since everyone there sucks...
Then again, I'm the guy that uses Parasect in OU, so maybe I have no mouth to speak.
Blastioise at least has a chance to spin more than once, which is more than Dhelmise has. Don't know where the "outclassed" bit is coming from.Blastoise: When you're outclassed by Donphan and Dhelmise, that's a sign to move out.
out of the d rank ru spinner trio, dhelmise is probably the least shitty, at least it has some interesting resistances, a nice offensive presence, and can healBlastioise at least has a chance to spin more than once, which is more than Dhelmise has. Don't know where the "outclassed" bit is coming from.
it's also so slow that it's going to be missing quite a bit of health by the time it can do anything.out of the d rank ru spinner trio, dhelmise is probably the least shitty, at least it has some interesting resistances, a nice offensive presence, and can heal
I never said it was good - just that it was better than Blastoise.Blastioise at least has a chance to spin more than once, which is more than Dhelmise has. Don't know where the "outclassed" bit is coming from.