Its for when obvious shadow sneak is obvious. I lead with mega gengar. So people always go for the Shadow Sneak guaranteed.
Lead SubDance Bisharp handles Breloom nicely with Iron Head. Although sometimes, sometimes, you just gotta switch to something else.
How many boosts are needed to OHKO it in shield form from full HP/what item? (any calcs for gen 6 made yet?)
+2 252+ Atk Bisharp Night Slash vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Aegislash (Shield): 342-403 (105.55 - 124.38%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Great contribution. Added to OP! Thanks!
Name: Bisharp
Type: Dark / Steel
Ability: Defiant / Inner Focus / Pressure (DW)
Base Stats: 65 / 125 / 100 / 60 / 70 / 70
Notable Move Pool:
Iron Head
Swords Dance
Substitute
Low Kick
Knock Off
Night Slash
Thunder Wave
Power Up Punch
Stealth Rocks
Sucker Punch
Notable Movesets:
It's Morph'n Time
Ability: Defiant
Nature: Adamant
Evs: 200 Hp / 252 Atk / 52 Spe
Item: Life Orb / Leftovers
Moveset:
Swords Dance / Power Up Punch
Sucker Punch
Iron Head
Knock Off
With the introduction of the new type chart Bisharp is truly blessed endowed with 11 resistances and only 3 weaknesses. If that was not enough the new knock off mechanics allow him to neuter opposing pokemon while hitting with a STAB base 98 power move. Additionally he can now use his dark type attacks to punish steel types that had previously given him trouble. He maintains the same sets as he did last generation but has become inherently better. The boost set seeks to do what Bisharp does best punish pokemon if they attack with Sucker Punch or maim them with knock off if they try to prolong their demise. Power Up punch could be used for coverage although Sword Dance is probably better to get more power while Steel and Dark provide pretty neutral coverage. Knock Off is superior to Night Slash in almost every single case.
Feel free to copy and paste into the OP!
"Potentially always" sounds weird. Also, it is definitely not a counter to aegislash. It is a check.
LO 252 Attack Adamant Bisharp can OHKO Shield Forme Aegislash with Night Slash if it comes in on Sticky Web, which could very well be present if the opponent's using stuff that isn't Aegislash. That is taken from earlier in the thread. I don't remember exactly how much Sticky Web lowers Speed, but I can figure out how many Speed EVs an Adamant Bisharp would have to run to outspeed a standard Brave 0/0 Aegislash for certain values. Aegislash's Speed is 112, so we want to solve for 113 in our stat formula.
For pokemon A to be a "counter" for pokemon B pokemon A has to be able to switch in on common moves from and reliably beat pokemon B. Bisharp cannot do that to aegislash and is therefore not a counter. Bisharp will not even check aegislash unless it is at +2 or if night slash crits. It can therefore not even be considered a reliable check to aegislash. There are other pokemon that reliably counters aegislash, such as hippo and gliscor. Bisharp doesn't.
Bisharp can come in on Shadow Sneak and OHKO Blade Form with Night Slash.
Absolutely, but it needs to be wary of sacred sword. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that bisharp can't beat aegislash, but calling it a counter is too much.
You're right, but it's not available yet.
I agree 100%
I'd like to point out that this is assuming that someone runs Gyro Ball + Sticky Web on the same team for some reason. Yes, some might decide to do it, but it weakens Aegislash's Gyro Ball.
Aegislash doesn't give a crap about King's Shield. He can just spam Night Slash because Defiant will raise his attack if it drops.
Fixed. Just a typo im sure
Whoops, thanks man! Anyways, is Pursuit possible on this Mon?
I wish. But for real it sucks that Bisharp doesnt get Pursuit. But then again is he fast enough to be able to pull it off? Plus it will be pretty hard to replace any of his 4 moves.
How viable is a Choice Band Set on Bisharp?
It might have a strong use as no one wants to switch into a STAB Choice Banded 97.5 BP move that ALSO removes that item. Pursuit would be excellent on that for gengars that lack focus blast. Now that steel no longer resists dark. It's also perfect against sticky web, as a +2 STAB Choice Banded 97.5 BP move that ALSO removes that item is even scarier coming off from 125 base attack.
