Im really hyped about cotests, they were really fun, but I dont actually remember how to play them because I was a little kid back then ,so I always lost at the first one xD
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How would an expanded Hoenn dex take up data space...?
I highly doubt that a bunch of little secret base objects take up that much room. XY were 1.7 GB so even on the standard 2 GB 3ds cart they've got a lot of wiggle room, ignoring any optimization they might do
I wonder if diancie and (possibly)zygarde are introducing a trend of mega evolving legends(minor and major). Sorta "I have found you worthy of seeing my true power" and all that shit. I honestly won't be surprised if box legends have 600bp with a mega form from now on. After all they did break a trend with zygarde....
Um...yeah, it probably wouldn't since all 721 Pokemon and their various forms/Mega Evolutions/shiny appearances would be coded in regardless if they're available in the Hoenn Dex or not. Forget I said that...-.-;
I don't think that it'll become a big trend with box legends (besides Zygarde, probably) – that would get old fast. However, the probability is high that in the future, lesser legendaries (maybe Regigigas or Mew) will get Megas with a lot of hype.
This.
A short little story about why I want this so badly.
About a decade ago, when I was playing Ruby for the first time as a kid, I just beat the Mossdeep gym and was on my way to Sootopolis. I had played for about 5 days, 3 hours each after my after school but before bedtime, at this time.
I had no internet or player's guide at the time, but I knew enough to know that I was looking for a town with an underwater entrance. Sounded easy enough--how many underwater cities can there be? So I dove. At first, the spots I chose were isolated and empty, save for an item or two. I found a bunch of Shards and a few Pearls and Heart Scales along the way. I spent about an hour wandering around these spots before I came across one that didn't have anything in it. That was strange. Even with the Itemfinder, I couldn't find anything nearby. Shrugging it off as some sort of mislead, I surfaced and surfed around for a bit until I came across the next circular diving hole. I dove. Nothing there. This kept happening and happening, and I couldn't for the life of me figure out why. Why would this game put dozens of empty diving holes next to each other? By the time my three hours were up and it was time to go to bed, I must have checked out at least 70 or so diving spots, with the majority of them turning out empty, especially torwards the end. I was thoroughly perplexed.
The next day, the same thing happened: dive down, find nothing, surf to another spot, repeat (and every so often use a Repel to drive off those pesky Tentacool). It must have taken at least another hour of surfing before I finally found something. Except this diving hole was different. It wasn't a circle with a few rocks that led nowhere--it was a path! I had finally triumphed, making my grueling way through the hundred diving spots between Mossdeep and Sootopolis, before finally reaching civilization. I giddily began swimming my way through the path, but after a mere two steps...
Repel's effect wore off! No big deal, just use another one, right? I checked my bag to replenish my steps, but much to my surprise, I had none. In my tenuous trek through the vast sea between the two cities, I managed to use up all 70 of my Max Repels. Glorious. What's worse is that I couldn't fly back to Mosdeep, since I had just switched out my Swellow for a newly-caught Trapinch I was trying to train. But it shouldn't matter, I thought. I was almost at Sootopolis already. I was wrong. Terribly wrong.
I began swimming my way through the path--more of a trench, really, given the canyon-like appearance of the trail. It was much shorter than I thought it was; I made it to the other side within a few seconds. On the other side was a light patch, where I could surface. Sootopolis City, here I come! ...except when I surfaced, I was still stranded in the middle of the ocean. But it looked a bit different. Rather than the splotches of dark waters I had seen on the other side of the trail, the darkened areas here took more elongated shapes. Swimming around a bit (and running into my first Pelipper of many), I noticed there were quite a few of them. I chose one at random and dived into it. The first thing that hit me was that this trench had grass at the bottom of the sea. Grass! I took a second to think about it, and then realized it probably was more likely seaweed or something similar. I swam into it eagerly--after seeing only Tentacool and Pelipper in other water routes, what diverse range of Pokemon could one possibly find underwater?
My first encounter was a Clamperl. My first reaction to it was thinking, "It's a clam. That's it?" But in my quest to catch 'em all, I caught it anyways. It didn't seem very useful, but at least it was different. The next thing I found was another Clamperl. No need for another one when I just caught one. Then another Clamperl. And another. "That's my fourth one in a row," I thought. "Is this gonna be worse than regular surfing?" Luckily, my prayers were answered with my next encounter. It was a Chinchou, a familiar face from Gold and Silver. I gladly caught this one, seeing that Lanturn had one of my favorite designs from Johto. I found another Chinchou next. Then three more Clamperl. Then a Chinchou, then a Clamperl, then two Chinchou. Then came something different--Relicanth. Three Pokemon? That's already better than what it's like on the surface! And just like that, i was sold. What else could I find down here in the depths? By the time I found a few more Clamperl, my time was up, but I was eager to find out what else I could catch beneath the sea.
I spent my entire third day in that single trench, scouring back and forth to see what I could find. Clamperl, Clamperl, Chinchou, Clamperl, Clamperl, Clamperl, Chinchou, Relicanth, Clamperl, Clamperl. I started keeping a tally of each of my encounters on a sheet of paper. I gave myself 100 encounters to see what I could find--if I couldn't find something in 100 tries, then it statistically has less than a 1% chance of appearing, so it's probably not there. Of course, young me had no idea about that principle, and was just following a rule of thumb an older cousin gave to me. So I gave it a hundred shots. Clamperl, Chinchou, Clamperl, Clamperl, Relicanth. Over and over again. On my hundredth try, all I found was another Clamperl. These things were worse than Zubats. But I still had about 15 minutes of play left, and I had a gut feeling that there was something special here. A patch of seaweed underwater where you can find Pokemon? I was sure I stumbled upon a mystery area equivalent of catching Safari Zone Pokemon off the coast of Cinnabar Island back in Red and Blue. By now, I had memorized the underwater music, and was humming along as I played. Every once in a while, you could hear a Pokemon's cry within the music, like you could in all the routes of Hoenn. Most of the time it was Clamperl. I might have heard Chinchou once or twice. I don't think I ever heard Relicanth. But the vast majority of the time, it was Clamperl. Nevertheless, by the time my 15 minutes were up, I found nothing new. I surfaced and saved the game.
The next day I chose to dive in a nearby trench, hoping to find an item or two. To my vast surprise, there was more seaweed in this trench! How fortunate of me to find two underwater patches of grass within surfing distance of each other. I didn't hesitate to explore this patch as well. The first thing I found was a Clamperl. I shrugged it off. "They're probably like Zubats," I thought. "In every cave to get in the way of all of the actual rare stuff." So I spent the whole fourth day in this trench. Clamperl. Clamperl. Clamperl. Clamperl. Maybe a Chinchou every once in a while. Clamperl. Clamperl. Clamperl. During the whole three hours I spent in that trench, I found one Relicanth. One. At this point I started playing a game where I would look away when I encountered a Pokemon and would guess what it was before it appeared. If I guessed right, I would eat a marshmallow from a bag of Jet Puffs. I guessed Clamperl every time. There were three Jet Puffs left by the time I finished. In the last five minutes or so of the time I had, I had already given up on trying to find anything new, but I felt uneasy about exploring another trench without being able to finish--what if I went to bed and forgot where I went the next day, and then ended up going backwards and having to start over? So I just relented to continuing to swim back and forth in the trench I was already in, waiting agonizingly for the next day.
I blazed through the rest of the trenches within an hour on the fourth day. At this point I had given up on finding any new Pokemon underwater, and instead decided to refocus on my orignal goal: finding Sootopolis. After I scoured the remaining trenches clean of items, I went about searching for another potential dive spot. I hated surfing on water; it wasn't like a land route, where there was more or less a straight path to follow to get to your destination. The water routes were wide and open, with shallow water that fooled you into thinking you found land and dead ends that you think are paths but really only have items. After some surfing, however, I came across the familiar shape of a circular diving hole in the middle of the ocean. I dove into it and found nothing. Then I had a horrible realization--that whole day I spent checking out diving holes? What if they were all the same ones, and I had just been taking a giant circular route this whole time? I felt stupid after that. How could I think the game would put a hundred diving spots in a row and still expect to keep people who aren't as meticulous as me attentive? And the seaweed? That wasn't a reward for sticking it out through the so-called "path" or diving spots. It was just a regular old area that I happened to take a very, very long time to get to. But now I felt proud; I had figured out my mistake, and now I would be able to find Sootopolis in a breeze.
How wrong I was. The next two days were spent doing nothing but diving, realizing i had dove here before, and then surfacing to find another place to dive before realizing that I had already been there, too. The worst part was the stupid seaweed. Sometimes, in order to get to the other diving spot, I would have to swim through it, and much to my chagrin, spend tme encountering and fleeing from a wild Pokemon. Only at this point, it wasn't so much a "wild Pokemon" as it was "a Clamperl." In what must have been the shittiest luck on earth, every single underwater encounter I had for the next 12 hours of gameplay was a run-in with a Clamperl (admittedly, I did my best to avoid seaweed, but still). While there were Tentacool and Pelipper above the water, it was nothing compared to the nightmare that was diving. I was absolutely sick of the music, sick of the slow movement, sick of the lighting, and so, so sick of the Clamperl. The Clamperl. Even when I managed to thankfully evade any encounters with seaweed while diving, the game felt the sadistic need to further taunt me by playing that sickening cry over the music. Perlperl, I would hear every so often, even when I wasn't even in battle. The game was out to get me.
After three days of grueling search, I finally gave in and told my aunt to find Sootopolis for me. She obliged, but I felt as if my will to play the game had been sucked out of me. Not just my will to play the game, in fact, but also my soul. Clamperl had mocked me relentlessly with its saccharine cry, and now, it had taken my soul as well. To this day I haven't beaten Pokemon Ruby, and I have dutifully KO'd every Clamperl I have encountered in every game since. Sometimes, when I'm surfing in Emerald or Diamond or Black or Y, I still hear the sickening sound of perlperl ringing in my ears, and my spirit dies just a little bit more inside.
I had no internet or player's guide at the time, but I knew enough to know that I was looking for a town with an underwater entrance. Sounded easy enough--how many underwater cities can there be? So I dove. At first, the spots I chose were isolated and empty, save for an item or two. I found a bunch of Shards and a few Pearls and Heart Scales along the way. I spent about an hour wandering around these spots before I came across one that didn't have anything in it. That was strange. Even with the Itemfinder, I couldn't find anything nearby. Shrugging it off as some sort of mislead, I surfaced and surfed around for a bit until I came across the next circular diving hole. I dove. Nothing there. This kept happening and happening, and I couldn't for the life of me figure out why. Why would this game put dozens of empty diving holes next to each other? By the time my three hours were up and it was time to go to bed, I must have checked out at least 70 or so diving spots, with the majority of them turning out empty, especially torwards the end. I was thoroughly perplexed.
The next day, the same thing happened: dive down, find nothing, surf to another spot, repeat (and every so often use a Repel to drive off those pesky Tentacool). It must have taken at least another hour of surfing before I finally found something. Except this diving hole was different. It wasn't a circle with a few rocks that led nowhere--it was a path! I had finally triumphed, making my grueling way through the hundred diving spots between Mossdeep and Sootopolis, before finally reaching civilization. I giddily began swimming my way through the path, but after a mere two steps...
Repel's effect wore off! No big deal, just use another one, right? I checked my bag to replenish my steps, but much to my surprise, I had none. In my tenuous trek through the vast sea between the two cities, I managed to use up all 70 of my Max Repels. Glorious. What's worse is that I couldn't fly back to Mosdeep, since I had just switched out my Swellow for a newly-caught Trapinch I was trying to train. But it shouldn't matter, I thought. I was almost at Sootopolis already. I was wrong. Terribly wrong.
I began swimming my way through the path--more of a trench, really, given the canyon-like appearance of the trail. It was much shorter than I thought it was; I made it to the other side within a few seconds. On the other side was a light patch, where I could surface. Sootopolis City, here I come! ...except when I surfaced, I was still stranded in the middle of the ocean. But it looked a bit different. Rather than the splotches of dark waters I had seen on the other side of the trail, the darkened areas here took more elongated shapes. Swimming around a bit (and running into my first Pelipper of many), I noticed there were quite a few of them. I chose one at random and dived into it. The first thing that hit me was that this trench had grass at the bottom of the sea. Grass! I took a second to think about it, and then realized it probably was more likely seaweed or something similar. I swam into it eagerly--after seeing only Tentacool and Pelipper in other water routes, what diverse range of Pokemon could one possibly find underwater?
My first encounter was a Clamperl. My first reaction to it was thinking, "It's a clam. That's it?" But in my quest to catch 'em all, I caught it anyways. It didn't seem very useful, but at least it was different. The next thing I found was another Clamperl. No need for another one when I just caught one. Then another Clamperl. And another. "That's my fourth one in a row," I thought. "Is this gonna be worse than regular surfing?" Luckily, my prayers were answered with my next encounter. It was a Chinchou, a familiar face from Gold and Silver. I gladly caught this one, seeing that Lanturn had one of my favorite designs from Johto. I found another Chinchou next. Then three more Clamperl. Then a Chinchou, then a Clamperl, then two Chinchou. Then came something different--Relicanth. Three Pokemon? That's already better than what it's like on the surface! And just like that, i was sold. What else could I find down here in the depths? By the time I found a few more Clamperl, my time was up, but I was eager to find out what else I could catch beneath the sea.
I spent my entire third day in that single trench, scouring back and forth to see what I could find. Clamperl, Clamperl, Chinchou, Clamperl, Clamperl, Clamperl, Chinchou, Relicanth, Clamperl, Clamperl. I started keeping a tally of each of my encounters on a sheet of paper. I gave myself 100 encounters to see what I could find--if I couldn't find something in 100 tries, then it statistically has less than a 1% chance of appearing, so it's probably not there. Of course, young me had no idea about that principle, and was just following a rule of thumb an older cousin gave to me. So I gave it a hundred shots. Clamperl, Chinchou, Clamperl, Clamperl, Relicanth. Over and over again. On my hundredth try, all I found was another Clamperl. These things were worse than Zubats. But I still had about 15 minutes of play left, and I had a gut feeling that there was something special here. A patch of seaweed underwater where you can find Pokemon? I was sure I stumbled upon a mystery area equivalent of catching Safari Zone Pokemon off the coast of Cinnabar Island back in Red and Blue. By now, I had memorized the underwater music, and was humming along as I played. Every once in a while, you could hear a Pokemon's cry within the music, like you could in all the routes of Hoenn. Most of the time it was Clamperl. I might have heard Chinchou once or twice. I don't think I ever heard Relicanth. But the vast majority of the time, it was Clamperl. Nevertheless, by the time my 15 minutes were up, I found nothing new. I surfaced and saved the game.
The next day I chose to dive in a nearby trench, hoping to find an item or two. To my vast surprise, there was more seaweed in this trench! How fortunate of me to find two underwater patches of grass within surfing distance of each other. I didn't hesitate to explore this patch as well. The first thing I found was a Clamperl. I shrugged it off. "They're probably like Zubats," I thought. "In every cave to get in the way of all of the actual rare stuff." So I spent the whole fourth day in this trench. Clamperl. Clamperl. Clamperl. Clamperl. Maybe a Chinchou every once in a while. Clamperl. Clamperl. Clamperl. During the whole three hours I spent in that trench, I found one Relicanth. One. At this point I started playing a game where I would look away when I encountered a Pokemon and would guess what it was before it appeared. If I guessed right, I would eat a marshmallow from a bag of Jet Puffs. I guessed Clamperl every time. There were three Jet Puffs left by the time I finished. In the last five minutes or so of the time I had, I had already given up on trying to find anything new, but I felt uneasy about exploring another trench without being able to finish--what if I went to bed and forgot where I went the next day, and then ended up going backwards and having to start over? So I just relented to continuing to swim back and forth in the trench I was already in, waiting agonizingly for the next day.
I blazed through the rest of the trenches within an hour on the fourth day. At this point I had given up on finding any new Pokemon underwater, and instead decided to refocus on my orignal goal: finding Sootopolis. After I scoured the remaining trenches clean of items, I went about searching for another potential dive spot. I hated surfing on water; it wasn't like a land route, where there was more or less a straight path to follow to get to your destination. The water routes were wide and open, with shallow water that fooled you into thinking you found land and dead ends that you think are paths but really only have items. After some surfing, however, I came across the familiar shape of a circular diving hole in the middle of the ocean. I dove into it and found nothing. Then I had a horrible realization--that whole day I spent checking out diving holes? What if they were all the same ones, and I had just been taking a giant circular route this whole time? I felt stupid after that. How could I think the game would put a hundred diving spots in a row and still expect to keep people who aren't as meticulous as me attentive? And the seaweed? That wasn't a reward for sticking it out through the so-called "path" or diving spots. It was just a regular old area that I happened to take a very, very long time to get to. But now I felt proud; I had figured out my mistake, and now I would be able to find Sootopolis in a breeze.
How wrong I was. The next two days were spent doing nothing but diving, realizing i had dove here before, and then surfacing to find another place to dive before realizing that I had already been there, too. The worst part was the stupid seaweed. Sometimes, in order to get to the other diving spot, I would have to swim through it, and much to my chagrin, spend tme encountering and fleeing from a wild Pokemon. Only at this point, it wasn't so much a "wild Pokemon" as it was "a Clamperl." In what must have been the shittiest luck on earth, every single underwater encounter I had for the next 12 hours of gameplay was a run-in with a Clamperl (admittedly, I did my best to avoid seaweed, but still). While there were Tentacool and Pelipper above the water, it was nothing compared to the nightmare that was diving. I was absolutely sick of the music, sick of the slow movement, sick of the lighting, and so, so sick of the Clamperl. The Clamperl. Even when I managed to thankfully evade any encounters with seaweed while diving, the game felt the sadistic need to further taunt me by playing that sickening cry over the music. Perlperl, I would hear every so often, even when I wasn't even in battle. The game was out to get me.
After three days of grueling search, I finally gave in and told my aunt to find Sootopolis for me. She obliged, but I felt as if my will to play the game had been sucked out of me. Not just my will to play the game, in fact, but also my soul. Clamperl had mocked me relentlessly with its saccharine cry, and now, it had taken my soul as well. To this day I haven't beaten Pokemon Ruby, and I have dutifully KO'd every Clamperl I have encountered in every game since. Sometimes, when I'm surfing in Emerald or Diamond or Black or Y, I still hear the sickening sound of perlperl ringing in my ears, and my spirit dies just a little bit more inside.
TL;DR: I had my soul broken and PTSD from Clamperl in Pokemon Ruby and would very much appreciate it if GF increased underwater diversity so that future generations do not have to endure what I had to so many years ago.
Well mewtwo, groudon kyogre &(possibly) rayquaza already have them so i'm not so sure..
And speaking of mega groudon and kyogre, does anyone think they're getting new abilities? Or will their mega stones extend their weather?
11/10 would read again because yolswag420 long stories = epic
Remember the beginning of the Manaphy movie? That's what we need to see underwater. Seriously.
You're aunt plays Pokemon? She must be awesome.
But yeah, we need way more diversity in the Dive areas. I want to see stuff like Elektross, Jellicent, Skrelp, etc. so we have some variety from several regions.
Nothing worse than Lance talking about everything you couldn't do with Pokémon in GSC, and BOOM, he has 3 Dragonites under lv. 55
I believe it'll be an extended version of Drizzle or Drought, that puts everything permanently in Sun or Rain again. But I hope it's something new.
I just imagine how strong P. Kyogre's Water Spout is gonna be.
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Every Rock/Ground type just cried out in horror...then was suddenly silenced.
I love Shiftry and Leaf Blade was needed, but Power Whip or Wood Hammer could have been better :D At least, good accuracy, no recoil, and high critical
To all of you who think Shiftry might have Leaf Blade just because it was shown in the trailer, Fairy Wind Gardevoir says hello.
Reminds me of when I was playing Pokemon Pearl and I couldn't find the Team Galaxy grunt at Pastora City... I talked to EVERY SINGLE NPC I found, but somehow missed that one guy. So I asked my cousin and he found it for me. He also gave me an Hippowdon from the Dessert Route, which I tried using and I couldnt couldn't control it until the sixth badge ._. Still nice though.
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GSC Onix to beat the first gym. It was really nice...when he obeyed you. I was there really happy I traded a Bellsprout for an Onix, and that it would be a breeze to defeat Falkner, and I almost lost due to he not obeying me.
Mewtwo's not a box legend, and Groudon/Kyogre/maybe Rayquaza are getting Primal Reversions (which are Megas with special flavor attached). I think the fact that GF felt a need to give this trio special Megas shows that Megas won't become a trend with the story-centric box legendaries. Then again, you never know.
Plus, in perhaps the most influential generation since Gen 2 what with Fairies and Mega Evolution, they really needed something for the Weather Trio to stand out in the remakes...
In addition, Power Gem is in Carbink's level up movepool so it could easily have been a Beta move for Diancie, while Fairy Wind was a completely new move along with it's type.
I see no reason for them to put Leaf Blade in Shiftry's movepool in the beta of a later game in the generation when this is an old Pokémon, type and move, and then suddenly remove it.
Leaf Blade Shiftry is gonna happen guys just believe in it.
By the way do you guys think we will see new legendary Pokemon introduced after generation 3 in ORAS similar to being able to catch new legendaries in Jotho remakes. I mean Regigigas seems obvious as it's the leader of the regi trio but what other Pokemon could be there.
By the way do you guys think we will see new legendary Pokemon introduced after generation 3 in ORAS similar to being able to catch new legendaries in Jotho remakes. I mean Regigigas seems obvious as it's the leader of the regi trio but what other Pokemon could be there.
Easily. I've noted this before; but I think the most likely in order from most likely to least likely are:-
Legendary Beasts
Creation Trio
Tower Duo
Regigigas
Kami Trio
All the other legends are either catchable in Gen 6 or were in BW2.
looking at this it looks like you have to face elite four in order again
Dat black chair next to Sidney, "Pls, I don't even have to stand to beat you"
I like the elite four better this way
Regigigas is very likely to reappear, and I would be surprised if it doesn't. Also, I think because of the volcano we cant count out Heatran, since it's appeared in Volcanos the past two gens. Maybe they'll try to shoehorn Cress in for the VGC crowd as well, but that doesn't seem as likely. Other than that, The Legendary beasts seem more possible than the others, maybe with the exception of the Tower Duo as a nod to the weather trio being in HGSS
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