LC Seel

[sparktrain]

Overview
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While Seel's stats suggest that it'd perform best as a special wall, its general lack of support options leaves it outclassed by other bulky Water-types such as Chinchou. Seel's best niche is as a Perish Trapper, and while the strategy is sometimes regarded as gimmicky, Seel is the best option in Little Cup to pull it off. Seel also has a surprisingly good offensive movepool that includes several priority moves. However, it faces stiff competition from more powerful Water-types such as Carvanha and Corphish. With this in mind, it should be played to its advantages, which include better coverage moves, Fake Out, and higher bulk. Overall, while Seel faces serious competition from other Water-types in Little Cup, it can fill very specific niches that just might fit your team.

Perish Trapper
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name: Perish Trapper
move 1: Whirlpool
move 2: Perish Song
move 3: Rain Dance
move 4: Rest
ability: Hydration
item: Eviolite / Berry Juice
evs: 76 HP / 236 Def / 196 SpD
nature: Bold

Moves
========

Whirlpool allows Seel to trap the opposing Pokemon. Perish Song then puts a three turn counter on both Seel and the foe. The other two moves, Rain Dance and Rest, allow Seel to set up rain and return to full health and instantly wake up due to Hydration. Rain Dance can also be used for team support, ensuring Seel isn't dead weight versus hyper offense and VoltTurn teams.

Set Details
========

A Bold nature and the given EV spread maximize Seel's overall bulk, allowing it to easily trap weaker defensive threats. Hydration lets Seel heal itself with Rest and wake up instantly in the rain. Eviolite maximizes Seel's bulk, but Berry Juice can give Seel more turns to set up and successfully pull off a Perish Trap.

Usage Tips
========

Seel should execute its moves in a specific order: Whirlpool, followed by Perish Song, Rain Dance, Rest, then switch. This allows it to trap certain defensive threats such as Spritzee, Koffing, and Licktung and escape unscathed. It's important to note that if Seel switches out before two turns have ended, Whirlpool's trapping effect ends and the foe can switch out. Seel struggles to trap most offensive Pokemon, so it should stick to trapping defensive threats. If you find yourself up against a team where Seel is unable to trap any opposing Pokemon without being 2HKOed, use it as a Rain Dance setter instead and have some teammates ready to take advantage of the rain.

Team Options
========

Seel is able to both remove walls and provide Rain Dance support, so sweepers that have Swift Swim or are strong Water-types, such as Omanyte, Carvanha, and Anorith, make for good offensive teammates. Fighting-type sweepers such as Scraggy and Timburr are also good teammates, as they appreciate that Seel can remove Spritzee. Finally, Pokemon such as Lickitung and Spritzee can provide cleric support for Seel in the case that it is heavily damaged or asleep from using Rest outside of rain.

Life Orb
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name: Life Orb
move 1: Fake Out
move 2: Aqua Jet
move 3: Waterfall
move 4: Drill Run / Icicle Spear
ability: Thick Fat
item: Life Orb
evs: 236 Atk / 236 Def / 36 SpD
nature: Adamant

Moves
========

Fake Out provides chip damage, while Aqua Jet is a second priority move that has good revenge killing potential alongside Fake Out. Waterfall is Seel's strongest physical STAB move and should be used to hit bulkier foes. Drill Run 2HKOes Croagunk and Chinchou, which are two common switch-ins to Seel. Keep in mind that Chinchou can still outspeed and Volt Switch out to a more favorable matchup. Icicle Spear allows Seel to potentially OHKO Grass-types such as Foongus and Cottonee.

Set Details
========

Life Orb is required to maximize Seel's offensive potential. Thick Fat is a rather lackluster ability considering Seel already resists Fire and Ice, but it's more useful than Seel's other abilities. The given EV spread and an Adamant nature maximize Seel's Attack while also giving it some bulk. Seel doesn't need any Speed investment, although you can run 236 Speed EVs if you want to tie with other 14 Speed Pokemon. HP investment would cause Seel to take 3 damage from Stealth Rock instead of 2, so it should be left alone.

Usage Tips
========

While Seel's Fake Out is weak compared to other users such as Aipom and Meowth, the Fake Out + Aqua Jet combo serves as a nice tool for revenge killing weakened threats. Seel can even take out certain threats such as Abra and Berry Juice Archen that are at full health while only taking Life Orb recoil in the process. With the defensive investments, Seel is able to tank some powerful attacks with HP to spare for Life Orb recoil, such as Pawniard's Knock Off and Fletchling's Acrobatics, allowing it to hit them with powerful Life Orb boosted attacks.

Team Options
========

Fire-types such as Ponyta and Houndour can blast through the bulky Grass-types that trouble Seel. Ponyta in particular can also run Solar Beam to handle bulky Water-types, another problem for Seel. Bulky Grass-types such as Ferroseed and Foongus have excellent type synergy with Seel, easily tanking the Electric- and Grass-type moves that threaten Seel, while also taking on opposing Water-types.

Other Options
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Seel can make use of a few other support options such as Encore, Disable, and Toxic. Ice Shard is another priority option, but it's not terribly useful. Iron Tail can be used to 2HKO Spritzee, but its low accuracy is an issue. A full special attacking set with Surf, Ice Beam, Signal Beam, and Hidden Power Fire is an option, but Seel is heavily outclassed by other special attackers. Finally, Stockpile can be used to boost Seel's defenses, but lack of recovery outside of Rest limits its potential.

Checks & Counters
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**Mienfoo**: Bulky Mienfoo isn't 2HKOed by Waterfall and can recover lost health with Drain Punch and Regenerator. It also has U-turn to escape from the Perish Trapper set.
**Bulky Grass-types**: Bulky Grass-types can easily switch into Seel thanks to their Water resistance. Ferroseed works particularly well because it can punish Seel's contact moves with Iron Barbs, and it only takes neutral damage from Icicle Spear. Cottonee can lock Seel into a non-threatening move with Encore, but should be wary of switching in on Icicle Spear.
**Electric-types**: While they have trouble switching into Seel's attacks, most notably Drill Run, Electric-types such as Magnemite, Elekid, and Chinchou threaten Seel with their STAB moves and can Volt Switch out of the Perish Trapper set.

 

[zeriloa]

you definitely know more about seel than anyone lol so ya 1/3

edit: take out the god core mention LOL i didn't notice that

 

[sparktrain]

thanks nerd, ready for second check

edit: okay :(

double edit: talked to levi, and decided rain dance was oo material

 

[Corporal Levi]

Overview:
I wouldn't consider its special bulk "great", especially without investments. "Good" would probably be more accurate.

Other Options:
Get rid of the belch point.

Checks and Counters:
Replace Spritzee with physical walls in general, with Spritzee as an example of one.

foongus is better
2/3

 

[sparktrain]

thanks levi, updated with your stuff. ready for third check.

foongus is better

o rly

 

[doomsday doink]

Moves:
- Mention how, although Drill Run is a 2HKO on Chinchou, that Chinchou can outspeed and Volt Switch into a more favorable matchup

I think the Perish Trapping set does deserve its own "highlight" set, as Seel is one of the only consistent Perish Trappers in LC and it's a solid niche.

I'll hold off on my QC until the new set is implemented, just to make sure it's all up to par. Good work.

 

[sparktrain]

Moves:
- Mention how, although Drill Run is a 2HKO on Chinchou, that Chinchou can outspeed and Volt Switch into a more favorable matchup

I think the Perish Trapping set does deserve its own "highlight" set, as Seel is one of the only consistent Perish Trappers in LC and it's a solid niche.

I'll hold off on my QC until the new set is implemented, just to make sure it's all up to par. Good work.

edit: implemented

 

[doomsday doink]

Set Details:
- Change the "24 / 24 / 24 after Eviolite" to be "16 / 16 before Eviolite" (also there's only two stats affected by Eviolite)

Team Options:
- Pokemon that appreciate having big threats removed via Perish Trapping

QC 3/3

 

[sparktrain]

Set Details:
- Change the "24 / 24 / 24 after Eviolite" to be "12 / 12 before Eviolite" (also there's only two stats affected by Eviolite)

Team Options:
- Pokemon that appreciate having big threats removed via Perish Trapping

QC 3/3

thanks man
btw eviolite gives a 1.5 boost not double :D

 

[sparktrain]

I wrote it up, yay.

Ready for Final QC.

 

[Yagura]

Give a mention in OO that Seel can run a special attacker set with Surf, Ice Beam, and something like HP Fire but also state that it's outclassed by the physical attacker set that has better options such as priority.

This looks good, it's also cool that you were the one to do Seel's analysis as you have more experience with it more than anyone, great job! QC 4/3

 

[sparktrain]

Thanks Yagura!

Ready for GP

 

[Jetpack]

Heya, here's a am check I did. Other than a few typos here and there I thought this was really well written n_n

add / remove / Capitalize or lowercase

amcheck

Seel is an odd Pokemon. While its Seel's stats suggest that it'd perform best as a special wall, its general lack of support options leaves it outclassed by other bulky Water-types such as Chinchou. Seel's best niche is as a Perish Trapper, and while the strategy is sometimes regarded as gimmicky, Seel is the best option in Little Cup to pull it off. Seel also has a surprisingly good offensive movepool, including several priority moves. However, it faces stiff competition from more powerful Water-types like Carvanha and Corphish,.(RC)(AP) meaning With this in mind it needs should to be played to its advantages including which include better coverage, Fake Out, and higher bulk. Overall, while Seel faces serious competition from other Water-types in Little Cup, it can fill very specific niches that just might fit your team.

Perish Trapper
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name: Perish Trapper
move 1: Whirpool Whirlpool
move 2: Perish Song
move 3: Rain Dance
move 4: Rest
ability: Hydration
item: Eviolite / Berry Juice
evs: 76 HP / 236 Def / 196 SpD
nature: Bold

Moves
========

Whirpool Whirlpool is the primary move,(RC) which that allows Seel to trap the opposing Pokemon. Perish Song then puts a three turn counter on the opposing Pokemon, as well as Seel. The other two moves, Rain Dance and Rest, allow Seel to set up rain and return to full health in an optimal situation, and instantly wake up with Hydration. Rain Dance can also be used for team support, ensuring Seel isn't dead weight versus Hyper Offense and VoltTurn teams.

Set Details
========

A Bold nature with the given EV spread maximizes Seel's overall bulk, letting both of its defenses hit 16. This allows it to easily trap weaker defensive threats. Hydration is the chosen ability since it lets Seel heal itself with Rest and wake up instantly in the rain. Eviolite maximizes Seel's bulk, but Berry Juice is a viable alternative since it can potentially buy give Seel more turns to set up and successfully pull off a Perish Trap.

Usage Tips
========

Seel should execute its moves in a specific order: Whirpool Whirlpool, Perish Song, Rain Dance, Rest, then switch. This allows it to trap certain defensive threats, such as Spritzee, Koffing, and Licktung, and escape unscathed. It's important to note that if Seel switches out too early, Whirpool's Whirlpool's trapping effect ends, and the opponent foe can escape from Perish Song switch out. Seel must stay in battle for two turns after it uses Perish Song in order to successfully pull off a Perish Trap. Seel struggles to trap most offensive Pokemon, so it should stick to trapping defensive threats. If you find yourself up against a team where Seel is unable to trap any opposing Pokemon without being 2HKO'd, use it as a Rain Dance setter instead and have some teammates ready to abuse the Rain.

Team Options
========

Since Seel is able to both remove walls and provide Rain Dance support, sweepers that have Swift Swim or are strong Water-types such as Omanyte, Carvanha, and Anorith make good offensive teammates. Fighting-type sweepers such as Scraggy and Timburr also make good teammates, since they appreciate the removal of Spritzee. Finally, Pokemon such as Lickitung and Spritzee can provide cleric support for Seel in the case that it is heavily damaged or asleep from using Rest outside of rain.

Life Orb
########
name: Life Orb
move 1: Fake Out
move 2: Aqua Jet
move 3: Waterfall
move 4: Drill Run / Icicle Spear
ability: Thick Fat
item: Life Orb
evs: 236 Atk / 236 Def / 36 SpD
nature: Adamant

Moves
========

Fake Out provides chip damage against all non Ghost-type opponents foes. Aqua Jet gives Seel a second form of priority, giving Seel it good revenge killing potential alongside Fake Out. Waterfall is Seel's strongest physical STAB, and should be used to hit bulkier foes. Drill Run is useful to 2HKO Croagunk and Chinchou, which are two common switch ins to Seel. Keep in mind that Chinchou can outspeed and Volt Switch out to a more favorable matchup, though. Icicle Spear allows Seel to heavily damage Grass-types such as Foongus and Cottonee, and can even OHKO them with a bit of luck.

Set Details
========

A Life Orb is required to maximize Seel's offensive and revenge killing potential. The chosen ability is Thick Fat, which is rather niche lackluster considering Seel already resists Fire and Ice, but it's more useful than Seel's other abilities. The given EV spread and an Adamant nature maximize Seel's attack, while also giving it some bulk. Seel doesn't need Speed investment, although you can run 236 Speed EVs if you want to tie with other 14 Speed mons. HP investment would cause Seel to take 3 damage from Stealth Rock instead of 2, so it should be left alone.

Usage Tips
========

While Seel's Fake Out is weak compared to other users such as Aipom and Meowth, the Fake Out + Aqua Jet combo serves as a nice tool for revenge killing weakened threats,.(RC)(AP) Seel and can even take out full health threats such as Abra and Berry Juice Archen while only taking Life Orb recoil in the process. With the defensive investment, Seel is able to tank some powerful attacks with HP to spare for Life Orb recoil, such as Pawniard's Knock Off and Fletchling's Acrobatics, allowing Seel it to hit them with poweful powerful Life Orb boosted attacks.

Team Options
========

Fire-types such as Ponyta and Houndour can blast through the bulky Grass-types which trouble Seel. Ponyta in particular can also run Solar Beam, which handles to handle bulky Water-types, another problem for Seel. Bulky Grass-types such as Ferroseed and Foongus have excellent type synergy with Seel, easily tanking the Electric- and Grass-type moves that threaten Seel, while also taking on opposing Water-types.

Other Options
########

Seel can make use of a few other support options such as Encore, Disable, and Toxic. Ice Shard is another priority option, but it's not terribly useful. Iron Tail can be used to 2HKO Spritzee, but low accuracy is an issue. A full special attacking set with Surf, Ice Beam, Signal Beam, and Hidden Power Fire is an option, but Seel is heavily outclassed by other special attackers, so it should stick to physical attacking. Finally, Stockpile can be used to boost Seel's defenses, but lack of recovery outside of Rest limits its potential.

Checks & Counters
########

**Mienfoo**: Bulky Mienfoo isn't 2HKO'd by Waterfall, and can recover lost health with Drain Punch and Regenerator. It also has U-turn to escape from the Perish Trapper set.
**Bulky Grass-types**: Bulky Grass-types can easily switch into Seel thanks to their Water resistance. Ferroseed works particularly well since it can punish Seel's contact moves with Iron Barbs, and only takes neutral damage from Icicle Spear. Cottonee can lock Seel into a non-threatening move with Encore, but should be wary of switching in on Icicle Spear.
**Electric-types**: While they have trouble switching into Seel's attacks, most notably Drill Run, Electric-types such as Magnemite, Elekid, and Chinchou heavily threaten Seel with their STAB moves, and can Volt Switch out of the Perish Trapper set.

 

[sparktrain]

So much "Whirpool." Thanks Jetpack!

 

[tehy]

Amcheck

Lotta fluff

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Overview
########

While Seel's stats suggest that it'd perform best as a special wall, its general lack of support options leaves it outclassed by other bulky Water-types such as Chinchou. Seel's best niche is as a Perish Trapper, and while the strategy is sometimes regarded as gimmicky, Seel is the best option in Little Cup to pull it off. Seel also has a surprisingly good offensive movepool, including several priority moves. However, it faces stiff competition from more powerful Water-types like Carvanha and Corphish. With this in mind, it should be played to its advantages, which include better coverage, Fake Out, and higher bulk. Overall, while Seel faces serious competition from other Water-types in Little Cup, it can fill very specific niches that just might fit your team.

Perish Trapper
########
name: Perish Trapper
move 1: Whirlpool
move 2: Perish Song
move 3: Rain Dance
move 4: Rest
ability: Hydration
item: Eviolite / Berry Juice
evs: 76 HP / 236 Def / 196 SpD
nature: Bold

Moves
========

Whirlpool is the primary move that allows Seel to trap the opposing Pokemon. Perish Song then puts a three turn counter on the opposing Pokemon, as well as Seel. The other two moves, Rain Dance and Rest, allow Seel to set up rain and return to full health win an thoputima sleep situf ration, and instantly wake up withanks to Hydration, respectively. Rain Dance can also be used for team support, ensuring Seel isn't dead weight versus Hyper Offense and VoltTurn teams.

Set Details
========

A Bold nature withand the given EV spread maximizes Seel's overall bulk, letting both of its defenses hit 16. This allowsing it to easily trap weaker defensive threats. Hydration is the chosen ability since it lets Seel heal itself with Rest and wake up instantly in the rain. Eviolite maximizes Seel's bulk, but Berry Juice is a viable alternative since it can potentially give Seel more turns to set up and successfully pull off a Perish Trap.

Usage Tips
========

Seel should execute its moves in a specific order: Whirlpool, Perish Song, Rain Dance, Rest, then switch. This allows it to trap certain defensive threats, such as Spritzee, Koffing, and Licktung, and escape unscathed. It's important to note that if Seel muswt stay in batchtles for two turns after itoo useas Perlyish Song, or Whirlpool's trapping effect will ends, and the foppone cant switch out. Seell must stay in battle for two turns after it uses Perisch Song in order to successfully pull off a Perish Trapt. Seel struggles to trap most offensive Pokemon, so it should stick to trapping defensive threats. If you find yourself up against a team where Seel is unable to trap any opposing Pokemon without being 2HKO'ed, use it as a Rain Dance setter instead and have some teammates ready to abuse the Rrain.

Team Options
========

Since Seel is able to both remove walls and provide Rain Dance support, sweepers that have Swift Swim or are strong Water-types, such as Omanyte, Carvanha, and Anorith, make for good offensive teammates. Fighting-type sweepers such as Scraggy and Timburr are also make good teammates, since they appreciate the removal of Spritzee. Finally, Pokemon such as Lickitung and Spritzee can provide cleric support for Seel in the case that it is heavily damaged or asleep from using Rest outside of rain.

Life Orb
########
name: Life Orb
move 1: Fake Out
move 2: Aqua Jet
move 3: Waterfall
move 4: Drill Run / Icicle Spear
ability: Thick Fat
item: Life Orb
evs: 236 Atk / 236 Def / 36 SpD
nature: Adamant

Moves
========

Fake Out provides chip damage, agawhinst all non Ghost-type foes. Aqua Jet gives Seel a second form of priority, giving with good revenge killing potential alongside Fake Out. Waterfall is Seel's strongest physical STAB, and should be used to hit bulkier foes. Drill Run is useful to 2HKOes Croagunk and Chinchou, which are two common switch -ins to Seel. Keep in mind that Chinchou can outspeed and Volt Switch out to a more favorable matchup, though. Icicle Spear allows Seel to heavily damage Grass-types such as Foongus and Cottonee, and can even OHKO them with a bit of luck.

Set Details
========

A Life Orb is required to maximize Seel's offensive potential. The chosen ability is Thick Fat, which is rather lackluster considering Seel already resists Fire and Ice, but it's more useful than Seel's other abilities. The given EV spread and an Adamant nature maximize Seel's aAttack, while also giving it some bulk. Seel doesn't need Speed investment, although you can run 236 Speed EVs if you want to tie with other 14 Speed mons. HP investment would cause Seel to take 3 damage from Stealth Rock instead of 2, so it should be left alone.

Usage Tips
========

While Seel's Fake Out is weak compared to other users such as Aipom and Meowth, the Fake Out + Aqua Jet combo serves as a nice tool for revenge killing weakened threats. Seel can even take out full health threats such as Abra and Berry Juice Archen while only taking Life Orb recoil in the process. With the defensive investment, Seel is able to tank some powerful attacks with HP to spare for Life Orb recoil, such as Pawniard's Knock Off and Fletchling's Acrobatics, allowing it to hit them with powerful Life Oarb boosted attacks.

Team Options
========

Fire-types such as Ponyta and Houndour can blast through the bulky Grass-types which trouble Seel. Ponyta in particular can also run Solar Beam to handle bulky Water-types, another problem for Seel. Bulky Grass-types such as Ferroseed and Foongus have excellent type synergy with Seel, easily tanking the Electric- and Grass-type moves that threaten Seel, while also taking on opposing Water-types.

Other Options
########

Seel can make use of a few other support options such as Encore, Disable, and Toxic. Ice Shard is another priority option, but it's not terribly useful. Iron Tail can be used to 2HKO Spritzee, but low accuracy is an issue. A full special attacking set with Surf, Ice Beam, Signal Beam, and Hidden Power Fire is an option, but Seel is heavily outclassed by other special attackers, so it should stick to physical attacking. Finally, Stockpile can be used to boost Seel's defenses, but lack of recovery outside of Rest limits its potential.

Checks & Counters
########

**Mienfoo**: Bulky Mienfoo isn't 2HKO'ed by Waterfall, and can recover lost health with Drain Punch and Regenerator. It also has U-turn to escape from the Perish Trapper set.
**Bulky Grass-types**: Bulky Grass-types can easily switch into Seel thanks to their Water resistance. Ferroseed works particularly well since it can punish Seel's contact moves with Iron Barbs, and only takes neutral damage from Icicle Spear. Cottonee can lock Seel into a non-threatening move with Encore, but should be wary of switching in on Icicle Spear.
**Electric-types**: While they have trouble switching into Seel's attacks, most notably Drill Run, Electric-types such as Magnemite, Elekid, and Chinchou heavily threaten Seel with their STAB moves, and can Volt Switch out of the Perish Trapper set.

 

[Winry]

Going over tehy's amcheck. My comments are in purple.

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Overview
########

While Seel's stats suggest that it'd perform best as a special wall, its general lack of support options leaves it outclassed by other bulky Water-types such as Chinchou. Seel's best niche is as a Perish Trapper, and while the strategy is sometimes regarded as gimmicky, Seel is the best option in Little Cup to pull it off. Seel also has a surprisingly good offensive movepool, (RC) including that includes several priority moves. However, it faces stiff competition from more powerful Water-types like Carvanha and Corphish. With this in mind, (AC) it should be played to its advantages, (AC) which include better coverage, Fake Out, and higher bulk. Overall, while Seel faces serious competition from other Water-types in Little Cup, it can fill very specific niches that just might fit your team.

Perish Trapper
########
name: Perish Trapper
move 1: Whirlpool
move 2: Perish Song
move 3: Rain Dance
move 4: Rest
ability: Hydration
item: Eviolite / Berry Juice
evs: 76 HP / 236 Def / 196 SpD
nature: Bold

Moves
========

Whirlpool is the primary move that allows Seel to trap the opposing Pokemon. Perish Song then puts a three turn counter on both Seel and the foe opposing Pokemon (changed to foe so it doesnt sound too repetitive), (RC) as well as Seel. The other two moves, Rain Dance and Rest, allow Seel to set up rain and return to full health in an thoputima sleep situf ration, and instantly wake up withanks to Hydration (<- I can't really interpret this, so just make the rest of the sentence "return to full health and instantly wake up due to Hydration"). Rain Dance can also be used for team support, ensuring Seel isn't dead weight versus hyper offense and VoltTurn teams.

Set Details
========

A Bold nature with and the given EV spread maximizes Seel's overall bulk, letting both of its defenses hit 16. This allows allowing it to easily trap weaker defensive threats. Hydration is the chosen ability since it lets Seel heal itself with Rest and wake up instantly in the rain. Eviolite maximizes Seel's bulk, but Berry Juice is a viable alternative since it can potentially give Seel more turns to set up and successfully pull off a Perish Trap.

Usage Tips
========

Seel should execute its moves in a specific order: Whirlpool, Perish Song, Rain Dance, Rest, then (this can be left here) switch. This allows it to trap certain defensive threats, such as Spritzee, Koffing, and Licktung, and escape unscathed. It's important to note that if Seel muswt stay in batchtles for two turns after itoo useas Perlyish Song, or Whirlpool's trapping effect will ends, and the foppone cant switch out. (<- I can't really read that either, but say "It's important to note that if Seel switches out before two turns have ended, (AC)" then the rest was fine as is ) Seell must stay in battle for two turns after it uses Perisch Song in order to successfully pull off a Perish Trapt. (<- delete this sentence) Seel struggles to trap most offensive Pokemon, so it should stick to trapping defensive threats. If you find yourself up against a team where Seel is unable to trap any opposing Pokemon without being 2HKO'd 2HKOed, use it as a Rain Dance setter instead and have some teammates ready to abuse the rain.

Team Options
========

Since Because Seel is able to both remove walls and provide Rain Dance support, sweepers that have Swift Swim or are strong Water-types, (AC) such as Omanyte, Carvanha, and Anorith, (AC) make for good offensive teammates. Fighting-type sweepers such as Scraggy and Timburr are also make good teammates, since as they appreciate that Seel can remove the removal of Spritzee. (changed because it wasn't really mentioned before that Seel can remove it) Finally, Pokemon such as Lickitung and Spritzee can provide cleric support for Seel in the case that it is heavily damaged or asleep from using Rest outside of rain.

Life Orb
########
name: Life Orb
move 1: Fake Out
move 2: Aqua Jet
move 3: Waterfall
move 4: Drill Run / Icicle Spear
ability: Thick Fat
item: Life Orb
evs: 236 Atk / 236 Def / 36 SpD
nature: Adamant

Moves
========

Fake Out provides chip damage, (AC) while against all non Ghost-type foes Aqua Jet gives Seel is a second form of priority, (RC) giving move that has good revenge killing potential alongside Fake Out. Waterfall is Seel's strongest physical STAB move, (RC) and should be used to hit bulkier foes. Drill Run is useful to 2HKOes Croagunk and Chinchou, which are two common switch-ins (add hyphen) to Seel. Keep in mind that Chinchou can outspeed and Volt Switch out to a more favorable matchup, though. Icicle Spear allows Seel to heavily damage Grass-types, (AC) such as Foongus and Cottonee, and possibly can even OHKO them with a bit of luck.

Set Details
========

A Life Orb is required to maximize Seel's offensive potential. The chosen ability is Thick Fat, which is a rather lackluster ability considering Seel already resists Fire and Ice, but it's (<- keep it's) more useful than Seel's other abilities. The given EV spread and an Adamant nature maximize Seel's Attack, (RC) while also giving it some bulk. Seel doesn't need any Speed investment, although you can run 236 Speed EVs if you want to tie with other 14 Speed mons Pokemon. HP investment would cause Seel to take 3 damage from Stealth Rock instead of 2, so it should be left alone.

Usage Tips
========

While Seel's Fake Out is weak compared to other users such as Aipom and Meowth, the Fake Out + Aqua Jet combo serves as a nice tool for revenge killing weakened threats. Seel can even take out full health certain threats such as Abra and Berry Juice Archen that are at full health while only taking Life Orb recoil in the process. With the defensive investment, Seel is able to tank some powerful attacks with HP to spare for Life Orb recoil, such as Pawniard's Knock Off and Fletchling's Acrobatics, allowing it to hit them with powerful Life Oarb boosted attacks. (<- this was fine as it was)

Team Options
========

Fire-types such as Ponyta and Houndour can blast through the bulky Grass-types which trouble Seel. Ponyta in particular can also run Solar Beam to handle bulky Water-types, another problem for Seel. Bulky Grass-types such as Ferroseed and Foongus have excellent type synergy with Seel, easily tanking the Electric- and Grass-type moves that threaten Seel, (RC) while also taking on opposing Water-types.

Other Options
########

Seel can make use of a few other support options such as Encore, Disable, and Toxic. Ice Shard is another priority option, but it's not terribly useful. Iron Tail can be used to 2HKO Spritzee, but its low accuracy is an issue. A full special attacking set with Surf, Ice Beam, Signal Beam, and Hidden Power Fire is an option, but Seel is heavily outclassed by other special attackers, so it should stick to physical attacking. Finally, Stockpile can be used to boost Seel's defenses, but lack of recovery outside of Rest limits its potential.

Checks & Counters
########

**Mienfoo**: Bulky Mienfoo isn't 2HKO'd 2HKOed by Waterfall, (RC) and can recover lost health with Drain Punch and Regenerator. It also has U-turn to escape from the Perish Trapper set.

**Bulky Grass-types**: Bulky Grass-types can easily switch into Seel thanks to their Water resistance. Ferroseed works particularly well since because it can punish Seel's contact moves with Iron Barbs, and it only takes neutral damage from Icicle Spear. Cottonee can lock Seel into a non-threatening move with Encore, but should be wary of switching in on Icicle Spear.

**Electric-types**: While they have trouble switching into Seel's attacks, most notably Drill Run, Electric-types such as Magnemite, Elekid, and Chinchou heavily threaten Seel with their STAB moves, (RC) and can Volt Switch out of the Perish Trapper set.

This counts as GP 1/2. Jetpack is not a member of the GP team so his wasn't official.

 

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Overview
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While Seel's stats suggest that it'd perform best as a special wall, its general lack of support options leaves it outclassed by other bulky Water-types such as Chinchou. Seel's best niche is as a Perish Trapper, and while the strategy is sometimes regarded as gimmicky, Seel is the best option in Little Cup to pull it off. Seel also has a surprisingly good offensive movepool that includes several priority moves. However, it faces stiff competition from more powerful Water-types like such as Carvanha and Corphish. With this in mind, it should be played to its advantages, which include better coverage moves, Fake Out, and higher bulk. Overall, while Seel faces serious competition from other Water-types in Little Cup, it can fill very specific niches that just might fit your team.

Perish Trapper
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name: Perish Trapper
move 1: Whirlpool
move 2: Perish Song
move 3: Rain Dance
move 4: Rest
ability: Hydration
item: Eviolite / Berry Juice
evs: 76 HP / 236 Def / 196 SpD
nature: Bold

Moves
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Whirlpool allows Seel to trap the opposing Pokemon. Perish Song then puts a three turn counter on both Seel and the foe. The other two moves, Rain Dance and Rest, allow Seel to set up rain and return to full health and instantly wake up due to Hydration. Rain Dance can also be used for team support, ensuring Seel isn't dead weight versus hyper offense and VoltTurn teams.

Set Details
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A Bold nature and the given EV spread maximize Seel's overall bulk, allowing it to easily trap weaker defensive threats. Hydration lets Seel heal itself with Rest and wake up instantly in the rain. Eviolite maximizes Seel's bulk, but Berry Juice can give Seel more turns to set up and successfully pull off a Perish Trap.

Usage Tips
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Seel should execute its moves in a specific order: Whirlpool, followed by (just in order to establish that you're beginning a progression) Perish Song, Rain Dance, Rest, then switch. This allows it to trap certain defensive threats,(RC) such as Spritzee, Koffing, and Licktung,(RC) and escape unscathed. It's important to note that if Seel switches out before two turns have ended, Whirlpool's trapping effect ends,(RC) and the foe can switch out. Seel struggles to trap most offensive Pokemon, so it should stick to trapping defensive threats. If you find yourself up against a team where Seel is unable to trap any opposing Pokemon without being 2HKOed, use it as a Rain Dance setter instead and have some teammates ready to abuse take advantage the rain.

Team Options
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Because Seel is able to both remove walls and provide Rain Dance support, so sweepers that have Swift Swim or are strong Water-types, such as Omanyte, Carvanha, and Anorith, make for good offensive teammates. Fighting-type sweepers such as Scraggy and Timburr are also good teammates, as they appreciate that Seel can remove Spritzee. Finally, Pokemon such as Lickitung and Spritzee can provide cleric support for Seel in the case that it is heavily damaged or asleep from using Rest outside of rain.

Life Orb
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name: Life Orb
move 1: Fake Out
move 2: Aqua Jet
move 3: Waterfall
move 4: Drill Run / Icicle Spear
ability: Thick Fat
item: Life Orb
evs: 236 Atk / 236 Def / 36 SpD
nature: Adamant

Moves
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Fake Out provides chip damage, while Aqua Jet is a second priority move that has good revenge killing potential alongside Fake Out. Waterfall is Seel's strongest physical STAB move and should be used to hit bulkier foes. Drill Run 2HKOes Croagunk and Chinchou, which are two common switch-ins to Seel. Keep in mind that Chinchou can still outspeed and Volt Switch out to a more favorable matchup, though. Icicle Spear allows Seel to heavily damage potentially OHKO Grass-types,(RC) such as Foongus and Cottonee,(RC) and possibly OHKO them with a bit of luck.

Set Details
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A Life Orb is required to maximize Seel's offensive potential. Thick Fat is a rather lackluster ability considering Seel already resists Fire and Ice, but it's more useful than Seel's other abilities. The given EV spread and an Adamant nature maximize Seel's Attack while also giving it some bulk. Seel doesn't need any Speed investment, although you can run 236 Speed EVs if you want to tie with other 14 Speed Pokemon. HP investment would cause Seel to take 3 damage from Stealth Rock instead of 2, so it should be left alone.

Usage Tips
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While Seel's Fake Out is weak compared to other users such as Aipom and Meowth, the Fake Out + Aqua Jet combo serves as a nice tool for revenge killing weakened threats. Seel can even take out certain threats such as Abra and Berry Juice Archen that are at full health while only taking Life Orb recoil in the process. With the defensive investments, Seel is able to tank some powerful attacks with HP to spare for Life Orb recoil, such as Pawniard's Knock Off and Fletchling's Acrobatics, allowing it to hit them with powerful Life Orb boosted attacks.

Team Options
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Fire-types such as Ponyta and Houndour can blast through the bulky Grass-types which that trouble Seel. Ponyta in particular can also run Solar Beam to handle bulky Water-types, another problem for Seel. Bulky Grass-types such as Ferroseed and Foongus have excellent type synergy with Seel, easily tanking the Electric- and Grass-type moves that threaten Seel,(AC) while also taking on opposing Water-types.

Other Options
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Seel can make use of a few other support options such as Encore, Disable, and Toxic. Ice Shard is another priority option, but it's not terribly useful. Iron Tail can be used to 2HKO Spritzee, but its low accuracy is an issue. A full special attacking set with Surf, Ice Beam, Signal Beam, and Hidden Power Fire is an option, but Seel is heavily outclassed by other special attackers. Finally, Stockpile can be used to boost Seel's defenses, but lack of recovery outside of Rest limits its potential.

Checks & Counters
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**Mienfoo**: Bulky Mienfoo isn't 2HKOed by Waterfall and can recover lost health with Drain Punch and Regenerator. It also has U-turn to escape from the Perish Trapper set.
**Bulky Grass-types**: Bulky Grass-types can easily switch into Seel thanks to their Water resistance. Ferroseed works particularly well because it can punish Seel's contact moves with Iron Barbs, and it only takes neutral damage from Icicle Spear. Cottonee can lock Seel into a non-threatening move with Encore, but should be wary of switching in on Icicle Spear.
**Electric-types**: While they have trouble switching into Seel's attacks, most notably Drill Run, Electric-types such as Magnemite, Elekid, and Chinchou threaten Seel with their STAB moves and can Volt Switch out of the Perish Trapper set.

GP 2/2

 

[sparktrain]

Implemented, thanks Antemortem. Seel is now done!

is seel gud

 

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