Oh, you're one of
those people are you, Spiffy? The guy who cuts out half the post you're responding to, taking things out of context, making defences seem half-baked and hoping that no one notices? Making their own arguments seem stronger in a bid to garner votes by not giving other players reading all of the info and all of the defense which they really need to know? The guy who's inevitably going to pick a fight regardless of alignment because he thinks that it might help? When people do that on my other site people basically disregard their whole post, so I'm going to do the same. Try again. I don't not want to respond to you because I've been getting votes for my unfortunate active lurking, but please give me complete arguments to respond to! That'd be great :)
As for your tl;dr:
Spiffy said:
Bottom line: Your entire defense is to make fun of one throwaway, trolly post I made about you.
No?
You're rewriting history to make it seem like my only argument against you was that you viewed the thread and didn't post.
No?
You are proving the point I have made against you this whole time.
It looks like, now that you've clarified, your point that "you have made against me this whole time" is that I didn't flesh out my opinions. True, I didn't.
This entire post was you explaining yourself.
That's generally how defending yourself in this game works.
You only seem concerned with how everyone views you, and you offer no insight into anything else.
I have been offering insight into everything else, I just haven't been able to back it up with tons of quotes and evidence. You yourself were at a loss of topics for me to talk about which I hadn't already earlier on beyond "what do you think about x user?" I was keeping up to date on discussions and giving my opinions, which is basically what active lurking is and all you can really expect from a player. Sunny, do this please.
Seems to me that you are trying to perpetuate this argument to make it seem like you are contributing to discussion, when you're actually not. You should know this tactic very well, because this was my strategy Day 1 of Mario Kart NOC, where I was mafia, and you were the person I picked the fight with!
You're saying I'm trying to pick a fight? What's lead you to that conclusion? You were the one who actually attacked me, I merely defended. The fact that you attacked me is also very interesting, because like you said, you've picked a fight with me before, and it worked. I'm actively lurking, which I've already acknowledged a few times because while you tried to make it sound like a bad thing it's an absolutely fine playstyle early game. Other users like sunny and Haunted are creating the illusion of contribution through multiple posts with no content and rarely posting with little insight respectively. If you actually believed your words, you would be gunning for either of them.
You have done nothing but defend yourself and try to get everyone to forget my REAL argument against you (which you even acknowledged in this post but didn't address at all).
I didn't notice it was a real argument. it seemed more like a brief comment to me, especially since you actually back other points up with evidence and the like, whereas this was basically a short sentence in a fairly long post. You now claim this is your main point because you'd also said it fleetingly a couple of pages back, again being a couple of words long and only being part of a much longer point which then contradicted this point anyway. I'm sure that before Spiffy outright said "oh btw, this is the main reason why we should lynch Celever!" none of you guys would have known either.
Anyway, like I said at the top of my post, try again to build a case on me. Your case seems to be that I was actively lurking, which I have admitted to several times and which also isn't an inherently bad thing. It's not exactly my preferred playstyle, but I was forced into it and I think it's actually gone pretty well.
Also if you want my opinions, even though I've said them multiple times already, sunny is the main target, and Spiffy is also on my radar. His early attempts to lead and his random aggressiveness and infidelity with his lynch votes is rather suspicious for me. Village leaders need to gain my trust in NOC, because in Twilight Princess mafia (or I guess it's called RNG NOC now), my first game, Aura_Guardian led the village, and he lead it well. I read him as scum for basically the whole game, but the mafia eventually won because he got to the endgame by being the leader and having high trust while still pushing lynches on town indirectly. He did get lynched in the end because of my FUCK TIGER! though! :3
Also, I'm good at reading, but bad at making cases. You know this, Spiffy. In the last OC game, for whatever reason I knew that you were scum the whole game, and later on I figured out that von was too. Could I get either of you lynched, though? No. There's no point having me build huge cases because they'll probably be shit anyway. If I notice something that other people don't though, I'll obviously give it a try.
