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NOC Dragon Ball Z NOC - Day 4
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B_T my vote is on you because you most certainly were active lurking in ANOCymous (you were in the lowest third in terms of activity of the playerlist in that game), and were subtly pushing the lynch away from your teammates. Your recent posts don't do much to convince me you aren't doing the same thing for TIK right now.
Can you post more substantive reads on a larger portion of the game please?
Can you post more substantive reads on a larger portion of the game please?
That's actually the opposite of how you should use a vig
You realize you have my thoughts on players and the defense of my wagon in that same post. It's like you didn't even read it.
This post is bad for two reasons:
Putting "easy" lynches as consolidation options - personally I think Sam/Asek are both easy outs in terms of lynching in the sense that there's a lot of obvious reasons why we should lynch them, but not necessarily too many good ones. It feels to me w.r.t sam you're just regurgitating what people like billy have said regarding sam, which is weird considering he's posted so much. i think your read on sam is really weak and not very content based which is strange given the content sam has posted.
Inactivity lynches being contradictory - It's a bit of a stretch how you put me and Steel in the same sentence of inactivity and hypocrtical in the sense that I've been as active and probably moreso than you? Ofc that's arguable and it's not very important but I don't find that to be a very strong reason to lynch me. Steel hasn't posted at all and putting me in the same line as him seems to me like it's just an easy way for you to group me in the inactivity category when that plainly isn't true w.r.t to this specific instance (arguably I am "inactive" compared to those like LW/Yeti/Sam).
Overall I just find your posts to be super lacking and not really adding much (e.g. I think your lurking - maybe you aren't necessarily inactive, but I definitely get the sense that when you do post, you don't have actual opinions about the game - see lynching inactive player, saying "don't talk about androids guys!"). Maybe I missed some of your earlier stuff, but I just generally get the sense that you're drifting by in this game, but it's worse because you aren't role-speccing, but trying to get by on what limited "content" you have about certain players. (and these players happen to be the ones that conveniently ppl have already talked about, and it feels like you're just repeating them). my opinion tho
i have to go to dinner so this isn't as concise/straightforward as i'd like it to be so i'll probably be getting some good replies to respond to later lol
I'm hazy on ANOCymous but I'm pretty sure I was the center of attention on D1. Shrug. Anyway, I don't have a comprehensive opinion on most players I didn't mention, or else I would have mentioned them. Do you expect me to have a read on TIK with what he's posted so far?
I guess I'll ask what you think Town BT would have done differently from what I've been doing up to now. It seems like you're just painting my actions like I'm playing to a scum meta you don't know.
wait what?
THE_IRON_...KENYAN?
Banned deucer.
subbin out
I guess sub me in
How can I be lurking if I havent even been online to read the thread lol
Also agreeing with BT, vig typically shoots scummy inactives or just really strong scum reads, and you ideally lynch people that are active so that you can solidify a read and relations to that player.
Asek
Banned deucer.
I think the most suspicious user based on postings to me is internet / unclesam and through geneneral inactivity it is steeledges / dle / acidephoenix
steeledges / dle both stated they would post their thoughts and catch up on the game but neither have. Avoiding posting in the thread could be seen as a vill role who doesnt want to draw any attention to themselves, but I'm more likely to suspect that a non village would take this course of action for the same reason. Not doing anything to raise suspicion to themselves, not doing anything to make themselves appear clean. I would like to see these 2 make a post with substance before deadline. But I'm guessing one of these 2 are the ones being subbed out in addition to tik. Acidphoenix has only posted once from what ive seen and there wasn't much substance to it, so id like to see more from him.
internet on the other hand hasn't really posted much of substance. Mainly short posts trying to steer discussion away towards other areas other than what is currently being discussed, which is to me a sign of a non village trying to break apart discussion for no reason. Hasn't really presented any original thoughts on any player and seems to be avoiding providing any real reads or arguments which is odd for a circus regular, and a village player would almost certainly want to be making posts relating to whats being discussed as well as brining up other points for others to contend, which internet currently is not. I also think the vote towards unclesam so close to harunos vote as well as flyhns is quite odd, but may just coincidental that all of them decided to speak up at that time.
Unclesam I outlined why I'm suspicious of in my big post. Generally proposing ideas that are to me against the villages best interests. I don't think he is a good cycle 1 lynch however as he is willing to push people for their opinions which is always good for the village.
I'd like to see dle / steel (or whoever subs for them) post their thoughts before I vote, but I think a cycle1 lynch is in the villages best interests as I outlined prior (we have revivier, the risk is quite worth the reward).
e: dle posted whilst i was writing this, but it wasn't really discussion of the current events mainly a meta point so my point stands
steeledges / dle both stated they would post their thoughts and catch up on the game but neither have. Avoiding posting in the thread could be seen as a vill role who doesnt want to draw any attention to themselves, but I'm more likely to suspect that a non village would take this course of action for the same reason. Not doing anything to raise suspicion to themselves, not doing anything to make themselves appear clean. I would like to see these 2 make a post with substance before deadline. But I'm guessing one of these 2 are the ones being subbed out in addition to tik. Acidphoenix has only posted once from what ive seen and there wasn't much substance to it, so id like to see more from him.
internet on the other hand hasn't really posted much of substance. Mainly short posts trying to steer discussion away towards other areas other than what is currently being discussed, which is to me a sign of a non village trying to break apart discussion for no reason. Hasn't really presented any original thoughts on any player and seems to be avoiding providing any real reads or arguments which is odd for a circus regular, and a village player would almost certainly want to be making posts relating to whats being discussed as well as brining up other points for others to contend, which internet currently is not. I also think the vote towards unclesam so close to harunos vote as well as flyhns is quite odd, but may just coincidental that all of them decided to speak up at that time.
Unclesam I outlined why I'm suspicious of in my big post. Generally proposing ideas that are to me against the villages best interests. I don't think he is a good cycle 1 lynch however as he is willing to push people for their opinions which is always good for the village.
I'd like to see dle / steel (or whoever subs for them) post their thoughts before I vote, but I think a cycle1 lynch is in the villages best interests as I outlined prior (we have revivier, the risk is quite worth the reward).
e: dle posted whilst i was writing this, but it wasn't really discussion of the current events mainly a meta point so my point stands
yea that's fair do you think i should switch back to BT?
I mean, beyond any sort of "I know I'm town" sort of reasoning on my end, I don't have any argument for why you should vote for BT over me, although UncleSam's meta read on BT's ANOCymous play is blatantly wrong. BT was definitely not active lurking, dude was active af and was attempting to scumhunt on some level. He just was purposely coming to bad conclusions that would help his teammates.
Why are we vigging at all when the vig suicides on a town hit? (waaaaaaaaay less paranoid than being paranoid about vegeta btw)
DLE can you give a fresh perspective on the stuff that's happened so far? This goes out to the subs too.
I want to hear mills elaborate as well and I don't like that he's waiting until it gets closer to deadline to do that (less of a chance of a good argument or lynch redirect in response?) but I'll save my criticisms until I see the argument itself.
I guess I never really thought about the game like "If LW or Mills are mafia they have to get UncleSam and Yeti lynched so they can dominate discussion and kill the only people capable of finding them out". I guess I understand some thought processes a bit better now but I never would have considered something like that as a real priority for mafia.
BT is getting more active now that he might be on the chopping block but I'm not getting much out of it at the moment. I'll get back on him tomorrow.
DLE can you give a fresh perspective on the stuff that's happened so far? This goes out to the subs too.
I want to hear mills elaborate as well and I don't like that he's waiting until it gets closer to deadline to do that (less of a chance of a good argument or lynch redirect in response?) but I'll save my criticisms until I see the argument itself.
I guess I never really thought about the game like "If LW or Mills are mafia they have to get UncleSam and Yeti lynched so they can dominate discussion and kill the only people capable of finding them out". I guess I understand some thought processes a bit better now but I never would have considered something like that as a real priority for mafia.
BT is getting more active now that he might be on the chopping block but I'm not getting much out of it at the moment. I'll get back on him tomorrow.
Echoing Blazade that I am very wary of Mills waiting until close to deadline to give reasoning. I can't really think of a legitimate reason to wait outside of not allowing US time to respond. I'd much rather him make his post sooner rather than later. That being said, this just seems like a crazy way for mafia Mills to play as it is drawing a ton of attention to himself. He's probably town, I just don't like how he's playing right now.
Pretty against a lynch from any of US/Yeti/LW/Mills currently though, much rather go after internet or Haruno probably (still fleshing this one out though) so my vote is staying where it is.
Big post coming soonish(it will be full of autocorrect you guys, watch out for randomly capitalised letters!) but I gotta post about this.
Stop the vig discussion, this is nor the time or place to give vig orders to kill. Ignoring how its utterly suicidal, we have to remember there is a fucking Transporter, that just guarantees that if the suggested target isn't third party that a village will likely die instead, oh I mean two because Goku will suicide. So no I don't want to hear shit about vigs today or any day will the transporter is alive.
Stop the vig discussion, this is nor the time or place to give vig orders to kill. Ignoring how its utterly suicidal, we have to remember there is a fucking Transporter, that just guarantees that if the suggested target isn't third party that a village will likely die instead, oh I mean two because Goku will suicide. So no I don't want to hear shit about vigs today or any day will the transporter is alive.
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