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Old Sep 4th, 2009, 11:08:19 PM   #8
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The combination of Substitute and Leech Seed allows it to beat most types of stall, aswell as drain the HP of stat-uppers such as Calm Mind Giratina-O and Bulk Up Dialga.
With the EVs you mentioned, Pyroak hits 206 speed which isn't enough to outrun Giratina-O. This means that Gira will just sub up to avoid Leech Seed and start CMing with resistances to both Grass and Fire. As for Bulk-up Dialga, he resists Grass Knot and doesn't take much damage from Lava Plume. All he has to do is start using Bulk Up and then recover with Rest and start Sleep Talking and rape your whole team, Leech Seed damage isn't stopping him from doing that. In your words:

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Anything that resists Pyroaks STABs, does not mind getting Burned, outspeeds Pyroak and can break his Substitutes is good.
subCM gira-o and bulk up Dialga both fall into this category, so..?????

In my opinion I don't think Pyroak needs max speed. He resists Scizor's Bullet Punch and if you invest some EVs into Defense then he won't take much at all from U-turn, same thing goes for Groudon pretty much. I think you need to focus more on his defenses than his speed and special attack.

Anyway, I'll be posting some more sets for Fidgit and possibly Kitsunoh soon.
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