Ok, since he's doing i nuzlocke i think he needs some back up pokemon (if not, ignore this post). Your first back up will be a goldeen named "FlyingFish". since this fish thinks its flying type, the only attacking move it may ever use is peck. To proove itslef to its flying brethren, it must solo one of winona's pokemon to evolve with ONLY peck (you can normally use non attacking moves, but it must prove its flying-ness in the Winnona fight by only using peck to solo a pokemon). If you get it after Winnona, your shit out of luck, it must be a goldeen untill victory road. To keep this thing from being an hm slave you have to solo one e4/champion's pokemon with it, just to keep you honest. Have fun!
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Challenge The Scramble Challange
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@Death incarnate
this pokemon may only be used IF and ONLY IF, all of your pokemon die and all your backups are dead.
you get a trapinch named "LastResort". in order to train it, you are only allowed to fight pokemon in one route of your choosing (e.g. route 111), or when you travel to mt pyre. you must train LastResort until it has gained at least 30 levels in that route in order to get strong enough to avenge his fallen brethren, and only then may it evolve into vibrava. every 6 levels you must travel to the top of mt pyre to pay respects to your dead party. immediately after getting to the top you must travel back to whatever route you chose to train in. gaining exp while not in that route or mt pyre means that trapinch may not evolve.
vibrava may only evolve into flygon after completely obliterating whoever defeated your last party member (if it was a wild pokemon then kill like 50 of the species i guess xD), or if you beat glacia. whichever comes first.
this pokemon may only be used IF and ONLY IF, all of your pokemon die and all your backups are dead.
you get a trapinch named "LastResort". in order to train it, you are only allowed to fight pokemon in one route of your choosing (e.g. route 111), or when you travel to mt pyre. you must train LastResort until it has gained at least 30 levels in that route in order to get strong enough to avenge his fallen brethren, and only then may it evolve into vibrava. every 6 levels you must travel to the top of mt pyre to pay respects to your dead party. immediately after getting to the top you must travel back to whatever route you chose to train in. gaining exp while not in that route or mt pyre means that trapinch may not evolve.
vibrava may only evolve into flygon after completely obliterating whoever defeated your last party member (if it was a wild pokemon then kill like 50 of the species i guess xD), or if you beat glacia. whichever comes first.
Death Incarnate, how many backups d'ya need? ObsidianRanger did a Scramblocke with 12 Pokemon (6 main and 6 backups), so I'd suggest that as a good number for you too.
Anyway, my challenge:
Grab a Numel. You may only evolve it if it switches into:
(Choose one)
a) Ten wild Tentacools which know Bubblebeam (only if you're under level 30),
b) Five higher-levelled Swimmers' Pokemon,
c) Two of Juan's Pokemon.
Naturally, if it dies, it's dead. Oh, and one more thing. It MUST be the first replacement into your party if and when one of your main Pokemon dies, and if it dies while you're trying for the requirement you may not switch another backup in; finish the game with five Pokemon in your party.
Take the risk and try to let it become halfway decent, or just keep it safe and wimpy? Hmm...
Anyway, my challenge:
Grab a Numel. You may only evolve it if it switches into:
(Choose one)
a) Ten wild Tentacools which know Bubblebeam (only if you're under level 30),
b) Five higher-levelled Swimmers' Pokemon,
c) Two of Juan's Pokemon.
Naturally, if it dies, it's dead. Oh, and one more thing. It MUST be the first replacement into your party if and when one of your main Pokemon dies, and if it dies while you're trying for the requirement you may not switch another backup in; finish the game with five Pokemon in your party.
Take the risk and try to let it become halfway decent, or just keep it safe and wimpy? Hmm...
@Death incarnate.
This is one of your "backups"
When your Treeko dies, the power of medical science has saved him from certain death. This counts as one of your backup pokemon. You must re-nickname you Treeko "Braindead" as soon as possible, and you must teach it every TM possible that you currently have on you at the exact moment it is saved from death's clutches. You can either go from top to bottom, or bottom to top on the list.
Your Treeko did not survive unscathed, however, and is currently still on the downward spiral of death. You must continuously give your Treeko TMs in order for it to sustain life. Every 2 levels, you must teach it a TM of a move it has never previously known. If you are unable to do so, you must teach it an HM. Your Treeko can never forget HMs once taught. Unfortunately, there is a point where all medicines have been tried, and it seems like there is not much hope for your poor companion. If you cannot teach Treeko any more TMs or HMs because its movepool is full of HMs, it will die after reaching another 2 levels. Further more, if you did not evolve your Treeko (or Grovyle) before being killed in battle, it may never do so in this state.
Have fun!
This is one of your "backups"
When your Treeko dies, the power of medical science has saved him from certain death. This counts as one of your backup pokemon. You must re-nickname you Treeko "Braindead" as soon as possible, and you must teach it every TM possible that you currently have on you at the exact moment it is saved from death's clutches. You can either go from top to bottom, or bottom to top on the list.
Your Treeko did not survive unscathed, however, and is currently still on the downward spiral of death. You must continuously give your Treeko TMs in order for it to sustain life. Every 2 levels, you must teach it a TM of a move it has never previously known. If you are unable to do so, you must teach it an HM. Your Treeko can never forget HMs once taught. Unfortunately, there is a point where all medicines have been tried, and it seems like there is not much hope for your poor companion. If you cannot teach Treeko any more TMs or HMs because its movepool is full of HMs, it will die after reaching another 2 levels. Further more, if you did not evolve your Treeko (or Grovyle) before being killed in battle, it may never do so in this state.
Have fun!
Bumping so that it isn't forgotten
Deathincarnate, one of your backup Pokemon is a Koffing. It must learn and know Selfdestruct or Explosion at all times. It can be revived as much as you want, but only if it faints due to it using Selfdestruct or Explosion. It may not evolve to Weezing until you have 8 gym badges.
I don't understand it as such. Random battles? So, like, everyone just randomly battles someone else on a special shoddy server with random pokemon, or what?
Treadshot, you didn't read the OP, didn't you? We'd battle 5 times against our opponent (1 for each gen and ADV doubles) on netbattle with level balance. For example, a latios would be on lv 55 and a wynaut on 100.
The pairings would be randomly decided by Bracketmaker (spelling?).
The winner would be the one to reach 3 wins (obviously).
So?
The pairings would be randomly decided by Bracketmaker (spelling?).
The winner would be the one to reach 3 wins (obviously).
So?
Then consider me out. I don't like things formatted to each gen. It makes things much easier to predict given the small pokemon pool, and from each gen there are bound to be pokemon that are almost guaranteed to be either predictable/just plain broken (Johto TTar, Hoenn has Mence and Gross). Not to mention some strategies would be immensely hard to counter, e.g. Hoenn BP, because Roarers are few and far between (bar possibly Swampert), and there's Jask. I'd imagine Rain Dance in Johto with Kingdra and Azumarill would work as well.
Guess it's just not for me. I prefer 493 pokemon.
Also, level 100 Wynaut would be so broken in that metagame.
Guess it's just not for me. I prefer 493 pokemon.
Also, level 100 Wynaut would be so broken in that metagame.
Seriously? A wynaut with splash/encore(I think - it wasn't counter or mirror coat)/safeguard/destiny bond is broken? Because this is what I got against KnightoftheWind. And a zapdos with relaxed nature and sunny day/sandstorm/snore/fly was on the same team.
And you'd have to be extremely lucky to get a pokemon with bp and a stat raising move.
Finally I also got a lv 57 latias with calm mind and thunder that was 2HKOed by lv 70 something boosted facade!!! And it's uber!
If anyone wants to try it I can battle with you so you get what I mean.
And you'd have to be extremely lucky to get a pokemon with bp and a stat raising move.
Finally I also got a lv 57 latias with calm mind and thunder that was 2HKOed by lv 70 something boosted facade!!! And it's uber!
If anyone wants to try it I can battle with you so you get what I mean.
@Death Inc. Have a backup Seviper named "Death Inc." You may use it as your 4th or 5th backup. It may not know any Poison or Ground moves. You must either A)teach it Frustration and use that move to KO at least one member of each gym leader's E4's team or B) solo Sydney with no items. (provided you have to use it)
@zdrup, sounds alright. I think we lose a little something when we don't have to come up with other people's pokemon. I'll still participate as long as it isn't at some bizarre time. Remember also: Round-robins are better / more fair than brackets when you have a limited number of participants. Plus, then everyone would get to battle everyone else instead of losing to weirdness in the first match.
@zdrup, sounds alright. I think we lose a little something when we don't have to come up with other people's pokemon. I'll still participate as long as it isn't at some bizarre time. Remember also: Round-robins are better / more fair than brackets when you have a limited number of participants. Plus, then everyone would get to battle everyone else instead of losing to weirdness in the first match.
Oh, i get it. Random teams as well. Great. Totally random pokemon, EV's, IV's, nature, everything. Great. Just throw us all in the deep end and see who has a Water Pokemon, then (I pity the loser that gets Psyduck!).
Wynaut with CounterCoat (or heck, just one of them will do) at Lv. 100 would be able to take many attacks from the so-called Ubers, and reflect it right back at them.
I'm surprised you got a Latias, Zapdos and Wynaut all on the same team, though. Latias is Hoenn, Zappy hails from Kanto, and Wynaut iirc is Johto (or, even just Latias and Zapdos, if that Wynaut was just for example purposes). How does this thing work again? You say 5 battles for each generation. Is that measured in pokemon games (hence, FR/LG + R/S/E = Latias + Zapdos)?
Anyways, i'm quite happy to sit out on this one. While i have faith in my knowledge of most pokemon, having Snore on a pokemon that doesn't have a bloody self-sleep move is stupid and far too situational. Also, Sunny Day and Sandstorm on one pokemon? You got the short straw, it looks like.
That random pokemon is what really bugs me. There's little to no strategy when you've got a random mix of 6 pokemon from a possible group of 1xx pokemon. To get any synergy is lucky, to have any pokemon that's even halfway viable is like when hell freezes over. If you guys really need one last person to fill the last spot, then fine, contact me. But i'll safely sit out of this one for the time being. It's not really in the spirit of a 'Scramble' challenge, in my opinion. It's just pokemon lottery.
I'd battle you, but i don't use netbattle.
Wynaut with CounterCoat (or heck, just one of them will do) at Lv. 100 would be able to take many attacks from the so-called Ubers, and reflect it right back at them.
I'm surprised you got a Latias, Zapdos and Wynaut all on the same team, though. Latias is Hoenn, Zappy hails from Kanto, and Wynaut iirc is Johto (or, even just Latias and Zapdos, if that Wynaut was just for example purposes). How does this thing work again? You say 5 battles for each generation. Is that measured in pokemon games (hence, FR/LG + R/S/E = Latias + Zapdos)?
Anyways, i'm quite happy to sit out on this one. While i have faith in my knowledge of most pokemon, having Snore on a pokemon that doesn't have a bloody self-sleep move is stupid and far too situational. Also, Sunny Day and Sandstorm on one pokemon? You got the short straw, it looks like.
That random pokemon is what really bugs me. There's little to no strategy when you've got a random mix of 6 pokemon from a possible group of 1xx pokemon. To get any synergy is lucky, to have any pokemon that's even halfway viable is like when hell freezes over. If you guys really need one last person to fill the last spot, then fine, contact me. But i'll safely sit out of this one for the time being. It's not really in the spirit of a 'Scramble' challenge, in my opinion. It's just pokemon lottery.
I'd battle you, but i don't use netbattle.
Anyway, did anyone else give suggestions? I rather liked my idea about choosing one member for each opponent. It still works with more than 7 people, then you even have some choice in your team.
We could simplify it further by only picking from (or tweaking) existing Smogon sets that way you wouldn't get COMPLETELY hosed by some d-bag who decided to give you a Specs Shedinja who runs Sandstorm and is EVd for HP and Def.
We could just pick a tier or some other parameter to give people a pool to choose from somewhat fairly (that's why NU seems good, the most variety but we could come up with anything like BST of a team or whatever you can think of. Tier just seems easier at this point) and each person picks one pokemon (and its set) for each other participant. You can assemble the team anyway you want but when you battle someone you must use whatever it was they assigned you. You battle each person, best record wins. If it ends up in a tie we'll have some kind of playoff.
If too many people are interested (seems very unlikely at this point) we can break off into sub-divisions and then have the top two or three people from each division go into a second round.
So yes, this would take a bit more effort than a random battle tournament; but I feel it is a better representation of Pokemon Scrambling in battle form than randomly generated teams picked by the computer.
We could simplify it further by only picking from (or tweaking) existing Smogon sets that way you wouldn't get COMPLETELY hosed by some d-bag who decided to give you a Specs Shedinja who runs Sandstorm and is EVd for HP and Def.
We could just pick a tier or some other parameter to give people a pool to choose from somewhat fairly (that's why NU seems good, the most variety but we could come up with anything like BST of a team or whatever you can think of. Tier just seems easier at this point) and each person picks one pokemon (and its set) for each other participant. You can assemble the team anyway you want but when you battle someone you must use whatever it was they assigned you. You battle each person, best record wins. If it ends up in a tie we'll have some kind of playoff.
If too many people are interested (seems very unlikely at this point) we can break off into sub-divisions and then have the top two or three people from each division go into a second round.
So yes, this would take a bit more effort than a random battle tournament; but I feel it is a better representation of Pokemon Scrambling in battle form than randomly generated teams picked by the computer.
I posted a while ago suggesting that we get 4 scrambled pokemon (which would be scramble by smogon members, so some common sense is required here, no Shedinjas with 252 HP EV's, etc.), and then choose the other 2 pokes yourselves, to get a halfway decent team. But that i guess people didn't like.
I agree that my idea isn't totally scramble, but it still is more 'scramble-y' than the current format, and also makes for an actual tournament where there is some skill involved, as the 2 pokemon you pick won't be just those two Uber Dragons, but you'd have to tailor them around the team you have, and from there have a team goal of some sort (be it a setup sweeper, or having those 2 pokes be Jask and Luke, or maybe total stall with Roserade/StallTran or SkarmBliss or CeleTran or GyaraJolt).
I agree that my idea isn't totally scramble, but it still is more 'scramble-y' than the current format, and also makes for an actual tournament where there is some skill involved, as the 2 pokemon you pick won't be just those two Uber Dragons, but you'd have to tailor them around the team you have, and from there have a team goal of some sort (be it a setup sweeper, or having those 2 pokes be Jask and Luke, or maybe total stall with Roserade/StallTran or SkarmBliss or CeleTran or GyaraJolt).
Guys, I confess I like your ideas and we could go with them but I was thinking that guys wouldn't want to spend lots of time with this.
So if we can get the 8 people (or 7 at least) I'd go with vratix's idea (it's the one that fits the most). We are 3 and there are surely more interested people (auramaster, dexington, paradox, doom, lolcat, etc.).
PS: 3rd gen has pokemons 1-300 and something and yes, all those 3 were on my ADV DOUBLES team (I lost that battle 1-0 btw)
So if we can get the 8 people (or 7 at least) I'd go with vratix's idea (it's the one that fits the most). We are 3 and there are surely more interested people (auramaster, dexington, paradox, doom, lolcat, etc.).
PS: 3rd gen has pokemons 1-300 and something and yes, all those 3 were on my ADV DOUBLES team (I lost that battle 1-0 btw)
I'm up for anything. : )
However, I would like to say that at some point I would enjoy doing a friendly, non-scramble related traditional tourney with you guys just for fun. However, with regards to the current tourney, I'm basically game for anything.
However, I would like to say that at some point I would enjoy doing a friendly, non-scramble related traditional tourney with you guys just for fun. However, with regards to the current tourney, I'm basically game for anything.
That's the spirit! I'd like that traditional tournament too and we can make it after this (this will be to learn how to host a tournament). Guys, 3 more (at least)!
Hmm, zdrup. Put me as maybe for now. I have lots of school tests so I might not be able to make it, depending on the time. If someone wants my place, they can have it.
I'm in for the tourney, anytime on Saturdays and Sundays work for me (to the best of my knowledge)
It should be on a weekend, I agree, just make sure to watch out for a scheduling conflict w/ the tour.
Everyone will have at least 6 battles so I think this should be like the regular tournaments and scheduled by both players.
Or we can set a time good for everyone (very difficult) and we do it in one day
If you guys have it on weekends, can you schedule it for Saturdays? Because i'm usually a day ahead (assuming you guys are all in USA), so that would be Sunday for me.
Also, is this on Netbattle or Shoddy?
Also, is this on Netbattle or Shoddy?
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