Groudon (Bulky Dancer)

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[SET]
name: Bulky Dancer
move 1: Rock Polish
move 2: Swords Dance
move 3: Earthquake
move 4: Dragon Claw / Stone Edge
item: Leftovers
nature: Impish
evs: 252 HP / 200 Def / 56 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>People often assume Groudon is running a defensive set when their powerful attackers fail to KO it and its Leftovers recovery activates. This set capitalizes on that preconception; it maintains the support set's ability to check dangerous physical threats such as Garchomp, Rayquaza, and Lucario, while also providing a strong offensive presence with Rock Polish and Swords Dance. Thanks to its greater bulk, Groudon also manages far more opportunities to set up than a more offensive variant, and is also harder to revenge kill with priority.</p>

<p>Earthquake is the obvious STAB move of choice for any Ground-type, while the final moveslot goes to a coverage move. Dragon Claw is Groudon's most reliable option for coverage, with perfect accuracy, a decent 80 Base Power, and super effective hits on Pokemon such as Giratina-O and Latios. Stone Edge, on the other hand, is the more powerful move in general and has equally impressive coverage alongside Earthquake. Most notably, Stone Edge allows Groudon to OHKO Rayquaza after Stealth Rock and one round of Life Orb recoil, whereas Dragon Claw does not. Ho-Oh is also OHKOed by Stone Edge, and Lugia and Skarmory will find it much harder to wall Groudon when it is with Stone Edge.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>The EV spread is almost completely geared to the defensive side, with 56 EVs invested into Speed so Groudon can beat Timid Choice Scarf Kyogre, as well as other base 90 Speed Pokemon at +1, after a Rock Polish. Further investment in Speed can be useful, but it detracts from the main draw of the set, which are the defenses. Not to mention, the less bulk Groudon has, the likelier it is your opponent will figure out it's not running a purely defensive set. Still, investing 124 EVs in Speed will allow Groudon to outspeed base 100 Speed Pokemon with a Choice Scarf; most notably Palkia, who could otherwise 2HKO with Draco Meteor; which can be useful.</p>

<p>This Groudon is not the kind of Pokemon you should base your team around. In fact, it plays almost identically to a support set besides the potential boosting. If anything, though, Groudon appreciates entry hazard support, particularly Toxic Spikes, so that it may better deal with opposing Groudon and Kyogre. Forretress is generally the best Toxic Spikes user in Ubers; it can also set up the other entry hazards too or spin them away from your own side of the field as needed. Skarmory, Lugia, and Giratina are troublesome for Groudon to deal with; a combination of Tickle Wobbuffet and Pursuit Scizor can handle the latter two, while Skarmory can be dealt with by a powerful special attacker like Heatran. The aforementioned Wobbuffet is also useful for eliminating Choice Scarf revenge killers such as Shaymin-S and Palkia, among others.</p>

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[SET]
name: Bulky Dancer
move 1: Rock Polish
move 2: Swords Dance
move 3: Earthquake
move 4: Dragon Claw / Stone Edge
item: Leftovers
nature: Impish
evs: 252 HP / 200 Def / 56 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>People often assume Groudon is running a defensive set when they see their powerful attackers fail to KO it, or when its Leftovers recovery activates. This will ultimately be their undoing when they realize that they are in fact facing this set. This set keeps the support set's ability to check dangerous physical threats such as Garchomp, Rayquaza, and Lucario, while still maintaining a strong offensive presence thanks to Rock Polish and Swords Dance. Groudon also manages many more oppurtunities to set up compared to a more offensive variant thanks to its greater bulk. It is also harder to revenge kill with priority for the same reason.</p>

<p>Earthquake is the obvious STAB move of choice for any Ground-type, while the final moveslot goes to a coverage move. Dragon Claw is Groudon's most reliable option for coverage], with perfect accuracy, a decent 80 Base Power, and super effective hits on Pokemon such as Giratina-O and Latios. Stone Edge, on the other hand, is the a more powerful move in general, with equally impressive coverage alongside Earthquake. Most notably, Stone Edge allows Groudon to OHKO Rayquaza after Stealth Rock and one round of Life Orb recoil where Dragon Claw would not. Ho-Oh is also OHKOed by Stone Edge, while Lugia and Skarmory will find it much harder to wall Stone Edge Groudon.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>The EV spread is almost completely geared to the defensive side, with 56 EVs invested into Speed so Groudon can beat Timid Choice Scarf Kyogre, as well as other base 90 Speed Pokemon at +1, after a Rock Polish. Further investment in Speed can be useful, but will detract from the main draw of the set, which are the defenses. Not to mention, the less bulk Groudon has, the likelier it is your opponent will figure out it's not running a purely defensive set. If you want, (not needed) though, 124 EVs with a neutral nature are required to outspeed Choice Scarf base 100 Speed Pokemon, most notably Palkia, who could do otherwise do a lot of damage with Draco Meteor.</p>

<p>This Groudon is not the kind of Pokemon you would base your team around. In fact, it plays almost identically to the support set, besides the potential boosting. Still, Groudon appreciates entry hazard support, particularly Toxic Spikes, so that it may better deal with opposing Groudon and Kyogre. Forretress is generally the best Toxic Spikes user in Ubers, and it can also set up the other entry hazards too if need be, . as well as spin them Forretress also comes with the added benefit of being able to spin hazards away from your own side of the field. Skarmory, Lugia, and Giratina are troublesome for Groudon to deal with; a combination of Tickle Wobbuffet and Pursuit Scizor can handle the latter two, while Skarmory can be dealt with by a powerful special attacker like Heatran. The aforementioned Wobbuffet is also useful in removing Choice Scarf revenge killers like Shaymin-S and Palkia, among others, from the playing field.</p>


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[SET]
name: Bulky Dancer
move 1: Rock Polish
move 2: Swords Dance
move 3: Earthquake
move 4: Dragon Claw / Stone Edge
item: Leftovers
nature: Impish
evs: 252 HP / 200 Def / 56 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>People often assume Groudon is running a defensive set when they see their powerful attackers fail to KO it,(remove) or when and its Leftovers recovery activates. This will ultimately be their undoing when they realize that they are in fact facing this set. This set capitalizes on that preconception; it maintains the support set's ability to check dangerous physical threats such as Garchomp, Rayquaza, and Lucario, while also providing a strong offensive presence with Rock Polish and Swords Dance. Thanks to its greater bulk, this Groudon has far more opportunities(spelling) to set up than more offensive variants, and it thanks to its greater bulk. It is also harder to revenge kill with priority for the same reason.</p>

<p>Earthquake is the obvious STAB move of choice for any Ground-type, while the final moveslot goes to a coverage move. Dragon Claw is Groudon's most reliable option for coverage, with perfect accuracy, a decent 80 Base Power, and super effective hits on Pokemon such as Giratina-O and Latios. Stone Edge, on the other hand, is the more powerful move in general,(remove) and has equally impressive coverage alongside Earthquake. Most notably, Stone Edge allows Groudon to OHKO Rayquaza after Stealth Rock and one round of Life Orb recoil,(comma) while Dragon Claw does not. Ho-Oh is also OHKOed by Stone Edge, and Lugia and Skarmory will find it much harder to wall Stone Edge Groudon.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>The EV spread is almost completely geared to the defensive side, with 56 EVs invested into Speed so Groudon can beat Timid Choice Scarf Kyogre, as well as other base 90 Speed Pokemon at +1, after a Rock Polish. Further investment in Speed can be useful, but it detracts from the main draw of the set, which are the defenses,(comma) Not to mention, and the less bulk Groudon has, the likelier it is that your opponent will figure out it's not running a purely defensive set. However, investing 124 EVs in Speed allows Groudon to outspeed Choice Scarf base 100 Speed Pokemon, most notably Palkia, which could otherwise 2HKO (~80% chance) with Draco Meteor.</p>

<p>This Groudon is not the kind of Pokemon you should base your team around. In fact, it plays almost identically to the support set (try not to reference other sets) besides the potential boosting. Still, Groudon appreciates entry hazard support, particularly Toxic Spikes, so that it may better deal with opposing Groudon and Kyogre. Forretress is generally the best Toxic Spikes user in Ubers;(semicolon) and it can also set up the other entry hazards or too if need be. What's more, it can also spin away said hazards from your own side of the field as needed. Skarmory, Lugia, and Giratina are troublesome for Groudon to deal with; a combination of Tickle Wobbuffet and Pursuit Scizor can handle the latter two, while Skarmory can be dealt with by a powerful special attacker like Heatran. The aforementioned Wobbuffet is also useful for eliminating Choice Scarf revenge killers such as Shaymin-S and Palkia, among others.</p>

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[SET]
name: Bulky Dancer
move 1: Rock Polish
move 2: Swords Dance
move 3: Earthquake
move 4: Dragon Claw / Stone Edge
item: Leftovers
nature: Impish
evs: 252 HP / 200 Def / 56 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>People often assume Groudon is running a defensive set when their powerful attackers fail to KO it and its Leftovers recovery activates. This set capitalizes on that preconception; it maintains the support set's ability to check dangerous physical threats such as Garchomp, Rayquaza, and Lucario, while also providing a strong offensive presence with Rock Polish and Swords Dance. Thanks to its greater bulk, Groudon also manages far more opportunities to set up than a more offensive variant, and is also harder to revenge kill with priority.</p>

<p>Earthquake is the obvious STAB move of choice for any Ground-type, while the final moveslot goes to a coverage move. Dragon Claw is Groudon's most reliable option for coverage, with perfect accuracy, a decent 80 Base Power, and super effective hits on Pokemon such as Giratina-O and Latios. Stone Edge, on the other hand, is the more powerful move in general and has equally impressive coverage alongside Earthquake. Most notably, Stone Edge allows Groudon to OHKO Rayquaza after Stealth Rock and one round of Life Orb recoil, whereas Dragon Claw does not. Ho-Oh is also OHKOed by Stone Edge, and Lugia and Skarmory will find it much harder to wall Stone Edge Groudon with Stone Edge .</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>The EV spread is almost completely geared to the defensive side, with 56 EVs invested into Speed so Groudon can beat Timid Choice Scarf Kyogre, as well as other base 90 Speed Pokemon with base 90 Speed who areat +1, after a Rock Polish. Further investment in Speed can be useful, but it detracts from the main draw of the set, which are the defenses. Not to mention, the less bulk Groudon has, the likelier it is your opponent will figure out it's not running a purely defensive set. Still, investing 124 EVs in Speed allows Groudon to outspeed Choice Scarf base 100 Speed Pokemon with a Choice Scarf and base 100 Speed, most notably Palkia, who could otherwise 2HKO it with Draco Meteor.</p>

<p>This Groudon is not the kind of Pokemon you should base your team around. In fact, it plays almost identically to a support set besides the potential boosting. Still, Groudon appreciates entry hazard support, particularly Toxic Spikes, so that it may better deal with opposing Groudon and Kyogre. Forretress is generally the best Toxic Spikes user in Ubers; it can also set up the other entry hazards too, or spin them away from your own side of the field as needed. Skarmory, Lugia, and Giratina are troublesome for Groudon to deal with; a combination of Tickle Wobbuffet and Pursuit Scizor can handle the latter two, while Skarmory can be dealt with by a powerful special attacker like Heatran. The aforementioned Wobbuffet is also useful for eliminating Choice Scarf revenge killers such as Shaymin-S and Palkia, among others. Finall</p>




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isn't a rock polish a +2 boost?

The EV spread is almost completely geared to the defensive side, with 56 EVs invested into Speed so Groudon can beat Timid Choice Scarf Kyogre, as well as other base 90 Speed Pokemon at +1, after a Rock Polish.

you're not outspeeding any choice scarfers at +1.
 

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with 56 EVs invested into Speed so Groudon can beat Timid Choice Scarf Kyogre *pause* as well as other base 90 Speed Pokemon at +1 *pause* after a Rock Polish.
so the 90 base Speed Pokemon are at +1.
 

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