Exeggcute (Analysis) [GP 0/2]

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Status: Ready for GP

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[Overview]

<p>Exeggcute might have got a major boost this generation in the form of Drought Vulpix, but sadly, Vulpix is banned, so Exeggcute will have to rely upon Sunny Day support to sweep. But that doesn't mean Exeggcute can't double its Speed a fast and potent wall, it just makes it harder . Eviolite also makes Exeggcute much more bulky, and Exeggcute still has a reliable recovery move in Synthesis and useful resistances to common Fighting-, Water-, and Ground-type attacks.</p>

<p>But it's not all sunshine for Exeggcute. First of all, it has a pretty bad Special Defense stat of 45, and to go along with that it has weaknesses to common Ice-, Fire-, Dark-, and Ghost-type special attacks. Exeggcute's movepool is also pretty lackluster, as it has few coverage options outside of its STAB attacks. All in all, Exeggcute is a decent Pokemon, but won't be seeing much use in LC. </p>

[SET]

name: Physical Wall
move 1: Wish / Synthesis
move 2: Giga Drain
move 3: Leech Seed / Hidden Power Fire
move 4: Protect / Toxic
item: Eviolite
ability: Chlorophyll
nature: Bold
evs: 236 HP / 236 Def / 36 Spe

[Set Comments]

<p>While Exeggcute isn't the best wall in LC, it can accomplish a feat that no other wall in LC can- it can outspeed most Scarf users and tie with Choice Scarf Scraggy. It also can heal itself fully with Synthesis in the sun, taking away the need for Rest. Other than that, Exeggcute also gets Giga Drain to heal itself. Leech Seed is good with Giga Drain allowing Exeggcute to regenerate its health at a crazy rate. Hidden Power Fire hits Ferroseed, who otherwise would wall Exeggcute completely. Protect stalls for Leech Seed damage, and Toxic can be used with Hidden Power Fire to have another way of taking down the opponent's health.</p>

[Additional Comments]

<p>Obviously for this set, Pokemon with Sunny Day support like Cherrim are great partner to bring sun. Chesto Berry and Harvest can be used outside of Sun, but that kinda ruins the idea of having a fast wall. Houndour is another great partner for Exeggcute, he is immune to Fire and Exeggcute can take most Water type attacks not coming from a certain clam. Munchlax is a great partner especially if it has Sunny Day to take Ice and Fire type attacks coming at Exeggcute, and it can also take Fighting type attacks coming at Munchlax. The EV spread makes sure you are still bulky and can still tie with common Choice Scarfers like Magnemite. Dragon Dance or Choice Scarf Scraggy is probably the best counter to this set, due to outspeeding it by 1 point and KOing it with Crunch.</p>

[SET]

name: Chlorophyll Sweeper
move 1: Giga Drain / Solarbeam
move 2: Psychic
move 3: Hidden Power Fire / Hidden Power Fighting
move 4: Sleep Powder / Synthesis / Sunny Day
item: Life Orb / Eviolite
ability: Chlorophyll
nature: Modest
evs: 116 HP / 236 SpA / Spe 116

[Set Comments]

<p> This set may seem outclassed by Oddish and Petlil offensively, but Exeggcute has much better defenses and STAB Psychic attacks. Giga Drain is the preferred option because with Solarbeam, you are pretty much screwed if the weather changes. Psychic gets dual STAB and Hidden Power Fire rounds off the coverage. Hidden Power Fighting can be used to hit Houndour, who otherwise can destroy you. Sleep Powder makes sure you are not setup bait, and Synthesis keeps you alive, for a longer sweep. </p>

[Additional Comments]

<p> Again, Sunny Day support is a great teammate for aforementioned reasons. Energy Ball can be used sometimes, but compared to the instant health regeneration from Giga Drain, its kind of dull. Hidden Power Ground hits both Steels and Houndour, but Bronzor really walls you. Life Orb gives you alot of power, but Eviolite makes you very bulky with Synthesis. Heat Rock can be used to have an elongated sweep with Sunny Day, but that can be provided by team members. A Timid Nature can be used to tie with +2 Scraggy, but Modest gives much more power. The EV spread makes sure that Exeggcute outspeeds +1 Scraggy, and the rest was put into HP. </p>

[Other Options]

<p> In the Chlorophyll set, Explosion can be used when your at low health to escape, but since it got nerfed in 5th Gen, its not a suggested option. For some reason, Exeggcute gets Swords Dance (and not Calm Mind...) and can run a Chlorophyll set with Swords Dance, Seed Bomb, Return, Explosion, and Secret Power (I think its Earthquake in Wifi.), but it doesn't get very good coverage. A Trick Room support set with Trick Room, Light Screen, Reflect, and Giga Drain can be used but you kind of are outclassed in that department with Natu. With Harvest, Exeggcute can use Oran Berry to regenerate half of it's health, but you lose Eviolite and Chlorophyll. Heat Rock and Sunny Day can be used to give you more speed, but its much more suggested if you get it from a teammate.</p>

[Checks and Counters]

<p> Houndour is the best counter to Exeggcute by destroying it with it's STAB attacks. Ferroseed can wall Exeggcute completely if it isn't packing Hidden Power Fire. Snover and Hippopotas can obviously destroy it by taking away Exeggcute's sun. Stunky traps it with Pursuit and Sucker Punch, just watch out for Hidden Power Ground. Scraggy takes hits with Eviolite and can KO it with Crunch. Dratini also resists Grass and can revenge kill with ExtremeSpeed. Lickitung can also be a good counter by taking away your Sun and start using Curse while you do absolutely nothing. Most Pokemon with U-turn like Scarf Mienfoo and Gligar are good counters, too. </p>

I think you're underrating Exeggcute's attacking strength. 60 Spa is decent.

Can't Egg just run Wish in slot 1 of the first set?

Speaking of the first set, Harvest is cool and all, but really, I'd take Eviolite any time. If you have sun support, guaranteed 100% recovery is cool, but outspeeding every unboosted pokemon and getting 50% in both defenses is cooler. Especially since it gets other forms of recovery.

So it'd be like

name: Physical Wall
move 1: Wish / Synthesis
move 2: Giga Drain
move 3: Leech Seed / Hidden Power Fire
move 4: Protect / Toxic
item: Eviolite
ability: Chlorophyll

With Chesto Harvest in AC.

...imo.

Egg gets killed pretty fast without Eviolite, y'know. It has a lot of weaknesses.

Giga Drain is heaps better than Energy Ball. And Solarbeam is too. And Leaf Storm is not for sweeping.

Don't use brackets for Hidden Powers.

Eggy isn't outclassed, it has STAB Psychic.


move 1: Giga Drain / Solarbeam
move 2: Psychic
move 3: Hidden Power Fire / Hidden Power Fighting (Houndour)
move 4: Sleep Powder / Synthesis

And Choice Specs sucks compared to Life Orb, as switching moves is way better than the .2 boost, and Giga Drain heals you.

Smoochum and Snorunt are killed with Solarbeam or Hidden Power Fire, and even scarfed ones are outsped with Chlorophyll.

Mention Sleep Powder cripples a would-be counter.

Mention Snover in counters, for hail ruins Drought.

Speaking of that, mention Vulpix as a partner in AC.

Don't use "I" in an analysis.

Ferroseed beats it without HP Fire.

Stunky traps it with Sucker Punch/Pursuit, and resists Grass and Psychic too.

Scraggy takes hits with Eviolite, psychic immune, shed skin for Sleep Powder, and Crunches away.

Dratini resists Grass and can revenge with Extremespeed. It has Shed Skin for Sleep Powder too.

Lickitung takes away your Chlorophyll with Cloud Nine, and resttalk ones set up all over you.

Mention stuff that uses bug moves. Like...uh...Scarf Mienfoo and Gligar.

Mention Dual Screens. It might even deserve its own set. Dual Screens+Wish is pretty cool, and Eggy has cool resists too. And speed in sun.

And Trick Room.

Finally, it's movepool is pretty lacking, only consisting of STAB moves and other types.

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And that's...terrible?

EDIT: oh yeah, pawniard can come in on a grass/psychic move and sucker punch it to death too

and hippopotas is a dick to it if it runs Solarbeam, and even if it doesn't, it can switch in on like hp fire and steal your sun and run away laughing

EDIT 2: actually Charmander's right do what he says

Ill make the edits by the end of the week, because of school.

uhh....the best Physical wall is Harvest + Oran Berry. It's not as stalling effective as Chesto, but it actually gives you some turns to do stuff. Try something with Protect, Synthesis, Toxic, and Giga Drain or something.

Done, Harvest and Oran Berry was added to the Other Options, and so was the support set. Bump, I guess.

Hi, you need to add much more to Additional Comments. Talk about teammates, why you choose the item, ev spread, etc.

Also, don't use words like "kinda" in your analysis, because its casual, but I'll leave that to the GP team.

I am not very sure about the wall set. Post some damage calcs against it?

As Shiny Azelf rightly said, expand on your additional comments more.

And

evs: 236 Sp.Atk 236 SpA / 236 Spe / 36 HP

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Just a nitpick!

Oh the moves I gave weren't their own set, it was the moves of the Harvest set lol.

Exeggcute hates this fact but Vulpix has been banned, meaning it needs something else to use Sunny Day.

Oh, Vulpix has been banned? Doh, well, when life gives you lemons, you take them and scream "I DONT WANT YOUR DAMN LEMONS!" burn the person who gave you them's house down with the lemons (portal 2 joke)

Lol, just put sunny day and heat rock on the chlorphyll sweeper set, problem solved!

That's what I did for oddish :p

ShinyAzelf said:

Hi, you need to add much more to Additional Comments. Talk about teammates, why you choose the item, ev spread, etc.

Also, don't use words like "kinda" in your analysis, because its casual, but I'll leave that to the GP team.

I am not very sure about the wall set. Post some damage calcs against it?

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added to the AC section, ill make some calcs later, but what section do I put them in? AC or SC? and I edited out kinda

Add moo's suggestion to oc or ac, then Stampd

Thanks so much!

Just quickly re-order the EVs; HP / SpA / Spe and this is stamped by me as well.

Sweet, this is ready for GP.

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Issues:

• Be careful where you use "your" or "you." "You" refers to the player, so you cannot refer to Exeggcute as "your" or "you." Use "it".
• Don't alternate between "it" and "he" when referring to Pokemon. Use either, don't use both.
• Please do not leave spaces between the <p> or </p> tags and words / full stops. I have corrected this to the best of my knowledge in my check, but please refrain from doing so in the future.
• Don't use "I." You are supposed to maintain a formal tone in analyses - this is not a theorymon thread where you offer your personal opinion on Exeggcute.

Otherwise,



GP 1 / 2

Someone can take this over if they want