Shinx (Analysis GP: 0/2)

metsrule158 · Jul 1st, 2011, 6:46:58 PM

Thanks to Wobb for letting me take this analysis over.

QC: 2/2 [Diana] [Darkamber8828]

[OVERVIEW]
Not a lot changed for Shinx this generation, except that it got its Dream World ability Guts which boosts its attack by 50% when it is inflicted by a status condition and its great new STAB Wild Charge which doesn't force it to use Spark or Thunder Fang. Guts can be used without losing much from Gen IV as the only major downside is that it loses Iron Tail. As it is mono-Electric typing it is only weak to Ground-type attacks, which can be cleared up by Magnet Rise which is available from the Dream World this Generation. It has access to Fire Fang, Wild Charge, Ice Fang and Crunch for great coverage against: Bug, Grass, Ice, Steel, Flying, Water, Ground, Dragon, Ghost and Psychic, which makes a total of 10 types.

[SET]

Name: Guts
Move 1 Facade
Move 2 Wild Charge
Move 3 Ice Fang / Crunch
Move 4 Fire Fang / Crunch
Item: Toxic Orb / Flame Orb
Ability: Guts
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 236 Atk / 4 Def / 4 SpD / 236 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

This is Shinx's best set, and with a Jolly nature, Shinx is able to reach a high speed. The combo of Guts and Facade means that Shinx's ability is even more useful. Ice Fang is nice here, as it counters Gligar, who resists Shinx's other moves and would easily OKHO it with Earthquake. Fire Fang is also good here, hitting Steel-types, Grass-types, and the common Snover. Wild Charge is a great STAB attack and hits Water-types and Flying-types hard. On this set, Shinx would reach to a 16 Attack stat, but when boosted with its Guts ability, it makes it go up to 24, and using a STAB Wild Charge makes its Base Power go up to 135. If faced with a Pokemon that is neutral to both Wild Charge and Facade, Facade would be the better option due to having zero recoil and 5 more Base Power. Its Speed stat goes up to 15, which means that it is not one of the fastest Pokemon around.


[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

Double Kick could be used, as it hits Scraggy, Carvanha, and Ferroseed hard, but the other moves listed give better coverage and can easily OHKO all of them. The pair of Thunder Wave and Intimidate makes a great combo, but it's stats are too low to do anything with them. A good partner for Shinx would be Dwebble, as it allows Shinx to finish off opponents after Dwebble's entry hazards pick at their health. Choice Scarf Snover is also a good partner, as it outspeeds Gligar and can OHKO with a STAB Blizzard. Slowpoke can Toxic stall, dealing some ajar damage before Shinx swoops in for the KO. Bronzor is immune to Ground-type attacks and can set up SteLth Rock, which is also good. Gligar poses a big problem, as its STAB Earthquake OHKOs Shinx. Any Pokemon that can outspeed Shinx is really a threat.

[Other Options]

The other option is to switch Ice Fang and Fire Fang for Double Kick, Crunch or Quick Attack, but Fire Fang and Ice Fang are the preferred choice, as it gets much better coverage. Protect is also a good option because it allows Shinx's Toxic Orb to kick in. Howl can be used if the opponent is switching out and then Shinx will hit everything really hard. Choice Scarf is another option because it can reach up to 14 speed, meaning that it is a viable user of the item. Thunder Fang could also be used instead for zero recoil, but it won't do as much damage. Mag net Rise makes Shinx temporarily immune to Ground-type attacks, meaning Shinx wil have no weaknesses at that time. Volt Switch can be used to get out of a tough spot. Shinx can reach a pretty lossless with 0 ivs, so Shinx could also be used as a Trick Room sweeper.

[Checks and Counters]

Gligar is able to switch-in on all Shinx's moves, except Ice Fang and OHKO it with Earthquake. Hippopotas can withstand a Facade and KO with Earthquake. Choice Scarf Snover can switch-in on a Wild Charge and then Blizzard it. Choice Scarf Chinchou can come in on Wild Charge, restoring any lost health, and then use Hydro Pump. Almost any Choice Scarf or priority Pokemon can kill it, as it has really bad defensive stats.

Diana · Jul 2nd, 2011, 6:35:10 PM

The only thing I can think of here would be to put Protect (for getting Toxic Orb to kick in) and Howl (it won't have the time but if somehow Shinx gets it in it'll hit really hard) in OO.

metsrule158 · Jul 3rd, 2011, 12:22:30 PM

thanks diana. i have implemented those changes

Diana · Jul 3rd, 2011, 3:37:35 PM

Really nothing else to say. It's Shinx.

[QC 1/2]

metsrule158 · Jul 3rd, 2011, 5:19:13 PM

Thanks Diana for that QC stamp!

Darkamber8828 · Jul 6th, 2011, 3:33:46 AM

Quote:

The only other option is to switch Ice Fang and Fire Fang for Double Kick, Crunch or Quick Attack, but Fire Fang and Ice Fang are the preferred choice, as it gets much better coverage. Protect is also a good option because it allows Shinx's Toxic Orb to kick in. Howl can be used if the opponent is switching out and then Shinx will hit everything really hard. Choice Scarf is another option because it can reach up to 14 speed, meaning that it is a viable user of the item.

No it isn't, evidenced by the amount of proper nouns in the paragraph.

Thunder Fang for less recoil at the cost of sucking.

Mention Trick Room? Shinx reaches a decently low speed with 0 spe ivs, and outspeeding the majority of the metagame gives it more chances to hit stuff and kill it before it dies to a glancing blow. AC mentions of Trick Room supporters, like Bronzor and Slowpoke. Bronzor is immune to Ground and has SR, and Slowpoke Toxics walls and lures Electric attacks to switch in on.

Shinx gets Intimidate and Thunder Wave, a combination few pokemon have access to, but its stats and typing suck horribly for a defensive set.

Magnet Rise in OO.

Also Volt Switch.

and then,

[QC 2/2]

metsrule158 · Jul 6th, 2011, 10:49:35 AM

Thank you darkamber, those changes have been implemented.

elDino · Jul 13th, 2011, 1:59:38 PM

Well, I was going through checking this, and I talked to Fatecrashers. The content is good, but I'm afraid that the writing really isn't up to scratch. We collaborated and decided to give the write up to someone better qualified. Don't let this put you off, though, try again, and hopefully your next attempt will be very successful! Take a look at analyses like these, to see some really top-notch items that you can hopefully look up to!

Shaymin-S
Giratina-O
Dialga

You'll still get credit for the skeleton when this goes on site, so don't worry.
Good luck on your next attempt!

**Fatecrashers** · Jul 13th, 2011, 2:02:10 PM

i believe diana is writing this up

Jul 1st, 2011, 6:46:58 PM	#1
metsrule158 Don't disturb him on his break. Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 360 New Jersey	Shinx (Analysis GP: 0/2) Thanks to Wobb for letting me take this analysis over. QC: 2/2 [Diana] [Darkamber8828] [OVERVIEW] <p>Not a lot changed for Shinx this generation, except that it got its Dream World ability Guts which boosts its attack by 50% when it is inflicted by a status condition and its great new STAB Wild Charge which doesn't force it to use Spark or Thunder Fang. Guts can be used without losing much from Gen IV as the only major downside is that it loses Iron Tail. As it is mono-Electric typing it is only weak to Ground-type attacks, which can be cleared up by Magnet Rise which is available from the Dream World this Generation. It has access to Fire Fang, Wild Charge, Ice Fang and Crunch for great coverage against: Bug, Grass, Ice, Steel, Flying, Water, Ground, Dragon, Ghost and Psychic, which makes a total of 10 types.</p> [SET] Name: Guts Move 1 Facade Move 2 Wild Charge Move 3 Ice Fang / Crunch Move 4 Fire Fang / Crunch Item: Toxic Orb / Flame Orb Ability: Guts Nature: Jolly EVs: 236 Atk / 4 Def / 4 SpD / 236 Spe [SET COMMENTS] <p>This is Shinx's best set, and with a Jolly nature, Shinx is able to reach a high speed. The combo of Guts and Facade means that Shinx's ability is even more useful. Ice Fang is nice here, as it counters Gligar, who resists Shinx's other moves and would easily OKHO it with Earthquake. Fire Fang is also good here, hitting Steel-types, Grass-types, and the common Snover. Wild Charge is a great STAB attack and hits Water-types and Flying-types hard. On this set, Shinx would reach to a 16 Attack stat, but when boosted with its Guts ability, it makes it go up to 24, and using a STAB Wild Charge makes its Base Power go up to 135. If faced with a Pokemon that is neutral to both Wild Charge and Facade, Facade would be the better option due to having zero recoil and 5 more Base Power. Its Speed stat goes up to 15, which means that it is not one of the fastest Pokemon around. </p> [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS] <p>Double Kick could be used, as it hits Scraggy, Carvanha, and Ferroseed hard, but the other moves listed give better coverage and can easily OHKO all of them. The pair of Thunder Wave and Intimidate makes a great combo, but it's stats are too low to do anything with them. A good partner for Shinx would be Dwebble, as it allows Shinx to finish off opponents after Dwebble's entry hazards pick at their health. Choice Scarf Snover is also a good partner, as it outspeeds Gligar and can OHKO with a STAB Blizzard. Slowpoke can Toxic stall, dealing some ajar damage before Shinx swoops in for the KO. Bronzor is immune to Ground-type attacks and can set up SteLth Rock, which is also good. Gligar poses a big problem, as its STAB Earthquake OHKOs Shinx. Any Pokemon that can outspeed Shinx is really a threat.</p> [Other Options] <p>The other option is to switch Ice Fang and Fire Fang for Double Kick, Crunch or Quick Attack, but Fire Fang and Ice Fang are the preferred choice, as it gets much better coverage. Protect is also a good option because it allows Shinx's Toxic Orb to kick in. Howl can be used if the opponent is switching out and then Shinx will hit everything really hard. Choice Scarf is another option because it can reach up to 14 speed, meaning that it is a viable user of the item. Thunder Fang could also be used instead for zero recoil, but it won't do as much damage. Mag net Rise makes Shinx temporarily immune to Ground-type attacks, meaning Shinx wil have no weaknesses at that time. Volt Switch can be used to get out of a tough spot. Shinx can reach a pretty lossless with 0 ivs, so Shinx could also be used as a Trick Room sweeper.</p> [Checks and Counters] <p>Gligar is able to switch-in on all Shinx's moves, except Ice Fang and OHKO it with Earthquake. Hippopotas can withstand a Facade and KO with Earthquake. Choice Scarf Snover can switch-in on a Wild Charge and then Blizzard it. Choice Scarf Chinchou can come in on Wild Charge, restoring any lost health, and then use Hydro Pump. Almost any Choice Scarf or priority Pokemon can kill it, as it has really bad defensive stats.</p> __________________ I won a big martini glass at my aunt's 50th birthday because there was a ribbon under my chair. Go figure XD Last edited by metsrule158; Jul 8th, 2011 at 10:13:03 AM.

Jul 2nd, 2011, 6:35:10 PM	#2
Diana Fennekin the cutest Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,258	The only thing I can think of here would be to put Protect (for getting Toxic Orb to kick in) and Howl (it won't have the time but if somehow Shinx gets it in it'll hit really hard) in OO. __________________ C&C work: 34 done, 2 partly done, finished 4th gen moveset errors

Jul 3rd, 2011, 12:22:30 PM	#3
metsrule158 Don't disturb him on his break. Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 360 New Jersey	thanks diana. i have implemented those changes __________________ I won a big martini glass at my aunt's 50th birthday because there was a ribbon under my chair. Go figure XD

Jul 3rd, 2011, 3:37:35 PM	#4
Diana Fennekin the cutest Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,258	Really nothing else to say. It's Shinx. [QC 1/2] __________________ C&C work: 34 done, 2 partly done, finished 4th gen moveset errors

Jul 3rd, 2011, 5:19:13 PM	#5
metsrule158 Don't disturb him on his break. Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 360 New Jersey	Thanks Diana for that QC stamp! __________________ I won a big martini glass at my aunt's 50th birthday because there was a ribbon under my chair. Go figure XD

Jul 6th, 2011, 10:49:35 AM	#7
metsrule158 Don't disturb him on his break. Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 360 New Jersey	Thank you darkamber, those changes have been implemented. __________________ I won a big martini glass at my aunt's 50th birthday because there was a ribbon under my chair. Go figure XD

Jul 13th, 2011, 1:59:38 PM	#8
elDino Deal With It. Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,478	Well, I was going through checking this, and I talked to Fatecrashers. The content is good, but I'm afraid that the writing really isn't up to scratch. We collaborated and decided to give the write up to someone better qualified. Don't let this put you off, though, try again, and hopefully your next attempt will be very successful! Take a look at analyses like these, to see some really top-notch items that you can hopefully look up to! Shaymin-S Giratina-O Dialga You'll still get credit for the skeleton when this goes on site, so don't worry. Good luck on your next attempt! __________________ :D

Jul 13th, 2011, 2:02:10 PM	#9
Fatecrashers UNH UNH UNH UNH Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 4,915	i believe diana is writing this up __________________