ragnarokalex vs jas61292

rules:

Alright, so ive had an open battle slot going for far to long, and ive seen these matches flying around and they look awsome so im going to issue one of my own:

6v6 Brawl
1 day DQ/2 for ref
6 Chills/5 Recoveries
Arena:Sunshine Meadow:
Sunshine Meadow is a large open field with beautiful weather and a pleasant calming atmosphere, the perfect place for training! The pleasant atmosphere of the field reduces the total damage dealt by all Dark type attacks (including combos that utilize dark type attacks) by half. The weather is also very dedicated to calm and will half the duration of any weather moves used. Other than that seismic attacks are fine, fire attacks are fine (since there aren't any trees around and the grass is very short anyways) and theres a small pond of water on the north side of the field allowing any water type attacks to be used.

also i will be using all first stage mons except for one, so I would appreciate a like team to take this challenge.

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Well, I don't know exactly how this works, but since no one is accepting my current open nfe challenge, I'll do this instead

Well, If you will let me, that is, I don't have 5 first stage guys to use, but I could do 4 first stage, 1 evolved and my Ditto (which i promise would transform into a first stage guy). if that is fine, then lets do no items and all abilities.

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team ragnarokalex:







team jas61292:







this is going to be terrifying.

jas#'s orders then ragnarokalex's orders, let's do this.

Ok, having Squishy transform is priority number 1. Unfortunately with Imposter still Locked, I cannot just instantly transform. And when we do transform, who should we choose to transform into. Well, I absolutely love Porygon. Mine just became a PoryZ, and it is one of my favorite Pokemon, so I choose that for my target. Then once Transformation is done, start blasting away at the Duclohm with a Hyper Beam.

Now as I said, transformation is first priority,but if Squishy gets taunted, that won't happen, so I need Lafayette to Taunt Chimchar before it can taunt Squishy. Follow that up with a Sky Attack on Ralts.

Now obviously Duclohm is the scariest of that bunch(especially with this team), so we want to hurt it as much as possible, and we will do that by nailing it with lots of moves. But making those moves do even more is key, so I want Oddity to start out spraying it with acid, afterwords shift your focus to Chimchar and Waterfall it.

Rock, you can focus your attention on Chimchar too. Start with a Rock Blast and follow it up with more Rock Blasts.

TuffPuff, your focus should be Ralts. Confuse it with Sweet Kiss and then Shadow Ball it.

Finally, BigPecks, you our our anchor. However the electricity on that side is scary, so lets just stay out of this for now. You are the fastest Pokemon here, so Dive into the pond before anything hits you, and just stay there for now.

Ditto: Transform (Porygon) - Hyper Beam (Duclohm)
Murkrow: Taunt (Chimchar) - Sky Attack (Ralts)
Remoraid: Acid Spray (Duclohm) - Waterfall (Chimchar)
Roggenrola: Rock Blast (Chimchar) - Rock Blast (Chimchar)
Igglybuff: Sweet Kiss (Ralts) - Shadow Ball (Ralts)
Swanna: Dive - stay underwater

Sweet Ive always wanted to do one of these things. Alright crew get out here and show em what your made of!! Everyone is to get this field under our control then proceed to crush the opposition!

Daezara - Thunder Wave Igglybuff - Hydro Pump Roggenrola

Keraia - Confuse Ray Igglybuff - Confuse Ray Remoraid

Hacketia - Thunder Wave Remoraid - Hyper Beam Murkrow

Malspar - Thunder Punch Murkrow - Thunder Punch Murkrow

Tahlzara - Shock Wave Swanna - Shock Wave Swanna

Feralyn - Water Spout Murkrow, Roggenrola, and Igglybuff - Water Spout Murkrow, Roggenrola, and Igglybuff

js but for simplicity i am going to use the ordering as you sent me for adjacent attacks. also since there are so many goddamn mons i won't bother with flavour or anything.



porygon's download: +1 spa

swanna (98) dive: -5 energy
elekid (95) -> swanna shock wave: 79 (no crit); ((6+3+(3-3)*1.5)*2.25) = 20 damage, -3 energy
murkrow (91) -> chimchar taunt: -9 energy
chimchar (61) -> murkrow thunderpunch: 293 (no para); 705 (no crit); ((8+(4-2)*1.5)*1.5) = 17 damage, -6 energy
duclohm (60) -> igglybuff thunder wave: -6 energy
remoraid j (56) -> duclohm acid spray: 335 (no crit); (4+(4-2)*1.5) = 7 damage, 3 energy
remoraid r (56) -> murkrow water spout: 823 (no crit); (11.25+3+(4-1)*1.5) = 19 damage, -7 energy
remoraid r -> remoraid j water spout: 276 (no crit); ((11.25+3+(4-2)*1.5)*0.67) = 12 damage
remoraid r -> roggenrola water spout: 865 (no crit); ((10.25+3+(4-1)*1.5)*1.5) = 27 damage
ditto (55) transform (porygon): -4 energy
porygon (40) -> remoraid j thunder wave: -7 energy
ralts (40) -> igglybuff confuse ray: 919 (intense confusion); -5 energy
roggenrola (15) -> chimchar rock blast: 277 (hit); 956 (5 hits); 669 (no crit); ((15+3+(4-2)*1.5)*1.5) = 32 damage, -5 energy
igglybuff (13) -> ralts sweet kiss: 599 (attacks); 69 (para)
93/94 (-2 spd); 100/93 (+1 spa); 90/95; 90/97; 90/93; 58/94 (t:5)
54/91; 78/97 (p:25); 63/95; 100/100 (p:25, c:3); 90/96 (t(porygon), +1 spa); 80/95

swanna dive: -3 energy
elekid -> swanna shock wave: 400 (no crit); 20 damage, -7 energy
chimchar -> murkrow thunderpunch: 54 (para); 384 (no crit); 17 damage, -10 energy
duclohm -> roggenrola hydro pump: 876 (hit); 390 (no crit); ((11+(4-1)*1.5)*1.5) = 23 damage, -8 energy
remoraid r -> murkrow water spout: 112 (no crit); 19 damage, -11 energy
remoraid r -> remoraid j water spout: 470 (no crit); 12 damage
remoraid r -> roggenrola water spout: 740 (no crit); 27 damage
ditto -> duclohm hyper beam: 794 (hit); 565 (no crit); (15+3+(4-2)*1.5)+(3*1.75) = 26 damage, -9 energy
ralts -> remoraid j confuse ray: 671 (intense confusion); -9 energy
porygon -> murkrow hyper beam: 527 (hit); 734 (no crit); (15+3+(4-1)*1.5)+1.75 = 24 damage, -9 energy
roggenrola -> chimchar rock blast: 746 (hit); 498 (3 hits); 410 (no crit); ((9+3+(4-2)*1.5)*1.5) = 23 damage, -9 energy
remoraid j -> chimchar waterfall: 538 (attacks); 316 (no para); ((8+3+(3-2)*1.5)*1.5) = 19 damage, -5 energy
igglybuff -> ralts shadow ball: 455 (hurts); (4+(2-1)*1.5) = 6 damage, -3 energy
67/86 (-1 spd); 100/84 (+1 spa); 90/86; 90/90; 90/82; 16/84 (t:4)
KO; 66/92 (p:20, c:3); 13/86; 94/97 (p:20, c:1); 90/87 (t(porygon), +1 spa); 60/92



let's play spot the errors! ragnarokalex is up next.

wait are we using positioning for this?

well water spout does target three adjacent opponents so i kinda have to. otherwise it doesn't really make sense.

ah i thought when positioning was off it just ignored stuff like that. Anyway,

Daezara - Rain Dance - Thunder Remoraid
If Swanna is out of the water by A2 then switch Thunder to it

Keraia - Thunderbolt Remoraid - Thunderbolt Remoraid

Hacketia - Tri Attack Igglybuff - Hyper Beam Igglybuff

Malspar - `Dig Igglybuff - Thunderpunch Remoraid

Tahlzara - Shock Wave Swanna - Shock Wave Swanna
if Swanna is KOed switch A2 to Cross Chop Igglybuff

Feralyn - Water Spout Roggenrola, Igglybuff, and Ditto - Water Spout Remoraid, Igglybuff, and Ditto

TEA_DEAMON said:

let's play spot the errors!

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Well, calculation wise it looks fine, but I believe that despite Shock Wave's -- accuracy, Diving still evades it. That is how it works in game, and that seemed to be the consensus when I asked on IRC.

But anyways, it shouldn't change what I am doing now, so lets just issue orders and let everything be dealt with at once.

Big Pecks, [assuming above changes are made], you did your job by diving, so come up and finish the move by nailing Elekid (If changes are not made though, then your Diving was a complete failure). Then Ice Beam Duclohm, unless it is already KOd, in which case Hurricane Remoraid.

Squishy, start by Tri Attacking Duclohm, and then Hyper Beam Remoraid.

Oddity, Spray Duclohm with more Acid, then do the same to Elekid.

TuffPuff, help hit Duclohm. Start with Psychic. Then, assuming it is gone by then, hit Elekid with Shadow Ball.

Finally, Rock, I want you to finish off Chimchar. I believe Magnitude should be able to hit it while it is underground. It might hurt us too, but it is worth it. Try to hit Duclohm and Elekid too. But if the way ordering is done doesn't allow you to hit Chimchar, then Double Team instead. Finish off by Smacking Down Remoraid, or Chimchar should you have not magnituded.

Swanna: Dive (Elekid) - Ice Beam (Duclohm)
If Duclohm is KOd by action 2, Hurricane his Remoraid instead

Ditto: Tri Attack (Duclohm) - Hyper Beam (Remoraid)

Remoraid: Acid Spray (Duclohm) - Acid Spray (Elekid)

Igglybuff: Psychic (Duclohm) - Shadow Ball (Elekid)

Roggenrola: Magnetude (Trying to hit Chimchar, Duclohm, Elekid, and whoever on ourside gets hit) - Smack Down (Remoraid)
If they way ordering is being done (kinda confusing) prevents Magnetude from hitting Chimchar, then do: Double Team (4 Clones) - Smack Down (Chimchar)

hmmm, i just figured that shockwave would manage to find the target by conducting in the pond since it was small anyway, either way its up to tea :)

That's true, but in that case wouldn't it hurt both Remoraid too? (Assuming that they are in the water and not flopping around helplessly on land)

idk, flopping around on land is the strategically sound thing to do :p. Anyway not to quick a dead horse, but i thought id bring up the point that you can hit pokemon using dig by shooting water down the hole, so i thought that the same concept would apply here.

Well, whatever. I'll just go with whatever Tea feel is best.

Well, calculation wise it looks fine, but I believe that despite Shock Wave's -- accuracy, Diving still evades it. That is how it works in game, and that seemed to be the consensus when I asked on IRC.

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i thought it made sense for an electrical attack that "never misses" to hit a pokemon who is underwater (i was aware of it missing in this scenario ingame), but i don't mind changing it if you really want.

anyway.



swanna -> elekid dive: 855 (no crit); (8+3+(3-2)*1.5) = 13 damage, -5 energy
elekid -> swanna shock wave: 128 (no crit); 20 damage, -11 energy
duclohm rain dance: -10 energy
remoraid r -> roggenrola water spout: 583 (no crit); ((14+3+3+(4-1)*1.5)*1.5) = 37 damage, -15 energy
remoraid r -> igglybuff water spout: 565 (no crit); (15+3+3+(4-1)*1.5) = 26 damage
remoraid r -> ditto water spout: 345 (no crit); (15+3+3+(4-3)*1.5) = 23 damage
porygon -> igglybuff tri attack: 300 (no status); 625 (no crit); (8+3+(4-1)*1.5)+1.75 = 17 damage, -6 energy
ditto -> duclohm tri attack: 463 (no status); 67 (no crit); (8+3+(4-2)*1.5)+(2*1.75) = 18 damage, -6 energy
ralts -> remoraid j thunderbolt: 913 (no crit); ((10+(3-2)*1.5)*1.5) = 17 damage, -7 energy
remoraid j -> duclohm acid spray: 443 (hurts); (4+(3-2)*1.5) = 6 damage, -3 energy
igglybuff -> duclohm psychic: 700 (attacks); 213 (no para); 117 (no drop); 211 (no crit); (9+(3-2)*1.5)+1.75 = 12 damage, -7 energy
chimchar -> igglybuff dig: 647 (no crit); (8+(4-1)*1.5) = 13 damage, -6 energy
37/76 (-1 spd); 100/82 (+1 spa); 90/79; 77/79; 90/67; 16/78 (t:3)
43/88 (p:20, c:1); KO; 38/90 (p:20); 67/81 (t(porygon), +1 spa); 40/87

swanna -> duclohm ice beam: 190 (no freeze); 289 (no crit); ((10+(3-2)*1.5)*1.5)+1.75 = 19 damage, -7 energy
elekid -> swanna shock wave: 402 (no crit); 20 damage, -15 energy
chimchar -> remoraid j thunderpunch: 915 (no crit); ((8+(4-2)*1.5)*1.5) = 17 damage, -6 energy
duclohm -> swanna thunder: 282 (para); 250 (no crit); ((12+3+(4-3)*1.5)*2.25) = 37 damage, -7 energy
remoraid r -> remoraid j water spout: 222 (no crit); ((15+3+3+(4-2)*1.5)*0.67) = 16 damage, -19 energy
remoraid r -> igglybuff water spout: 146 (no crit); 26 damage
remoraid r -> ditto water spout: 204 (no crit); 23 damage
porygon -> igglybuff hyper beam: 76 (miss); -9 energy
ralts -> remoraid j thunderbolt: 798 (no crit); 17 damage, -11 energy
ditto -> remoraid r hyper beam: 242 (hit); 418 (no crit); (15+3+(4-2)*1.5)+1.75 = 23 damage, -9 energy
remoraid j -> elekid acid spray: 22 (hurts); 6 damage, -3 energy
igglybuff -> elekid shadow ball: 729 (no para); 241 (no drop); 883 (no crit); (8+(3-1)*1.5) = 11 damage, -6 energy
18/69; 100/73 (+1 spa); 90/68; 66/64; 67/48; 16/72 (t:2)
27/85 (p:15); 12/84 (p:15); 44/72 (t(porygon), +1 spa); KO
rain (3)



so it's 6 on 3. ho hum. jas you're next.

If I really want... well, it won't help too much now. I just want a KO or 2.

Ditto: Tri Attack (Chimchar) - Hyper Beam (Duclohm)
Remoraid: Acid Spray (Chimchar) - Charge Beam (Remoraid)
Igglybuff: Psychic (Duclohm) - Shadow Ball (Remoraid)

Sorry for taking absolutely forever to post actions

Daezara - Hurricane Remoraid - Thunder Ditto

Keraia - Thunderbolt Remoraid - Thunderbolt Igglybuff

Hacketia -Hyper Beam Ditto - Tri attack ditto

Malspar - Fire Punch Remoraid - Thunderpunch Ditto

Tahlzara - Quick Attack Igglybuff - Cross Chop Ditto

Feralyn - Watergun Ditto - Psybeam Igglybuff

elekid -> igglybuff quick attack: 479 (no crit); (4+(4-1)*1.5) = 9 damage, -3 energy
chimchar -> remoraid j fire punch: 442 (no burn); 516 (no crit); ((8+3-3+(4-2)*1.5)*0.67) = 7 damage, -5 energy
duclohm -> remoraid j hurricane: 950 (no confusion); 789 (no crit); (12+(4-2)*1.5) = 15 damage, -8 energy
remoraid r -> ditto water gun: 612 (no crit); (4+3+3+(4-3)*1.5) = 12 damage, -2 energy
ralts -> remoraid j thunderbolt: 920 (no crit); 17 damage, -15 energy
porygon -> ditto hyper beam: fails
ditto -> chimchar tri attack: 314 (no status); 947 (no crit); (8+3+(4-1)*1.5)+1.75 = 17 damage, -6 energy
igglybuff -> duclohm psychic: 191 (no para); 410 (no drop); 219 (no crit); (9+(3-2)*1.5) = 11 damage, -7 energy
7/61; 100/73 (+1 spa); 90/53; 66/61; 67/46; KO
KO; 3/77 (p:15); 32/66 (t(porygon), +1 spa)

elekid -> ditto cross chop: 199 (miss); -7 energy
duclohm -> ditto thunder: 901 (no para); 265 (no crit); ((12+3+(4-3)*1.5)*1.5) = 25 damage, -7 energy
remoraid r -> igglybuff psybeam: kos, -5 energy
ralts -> igglybuff thunderbolt: -19 energy
porygon -> ditto tri attack: 113 (status); 899 (para); (8+3+(4-3)*1.5)+1.75 = 14 damage, -6 energy
7/54; 100/67 (+1 spa); 90/34; 66/54; 67/39
KO; KO



gg and that was much quicker than i was expecting. congrats ragnarokalex for winning too. prizes:

• all mons bar swanna get 1 ec, 2 mc and 1 dc
• swanna gets 3 mc
• porygon and ragnarokalex's remoraid get 2 koc each
• duclohm, ralts and ditto get 1 koc each
• ragnarokalex and jas# get 2 tc each
• i get 12 ref tokens

GG Jas. hey just cause im REALLY tired and having trouble concentrating, which pokes got KOCs again?

Cool thanks! BTW thanks for the awsome quick reffings

orite kos, edited that in.

SWEET!!! Got one KO. And for Ditto, no less. lol

GG Ragnarokalex, you really owned me in this one.

o snap, I forgot to point out earlier, since we did a 6v6 Brawl we get 4 TC.