Whismur (Analysis)

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Whismur



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QC checks: comatthew6, Zephyr
GP checks: jc104, NixHex


[Overview]

<p>Whismur is one of many Pokemon in Little Cup cursed with low stats. It is quite frail, and has very low Speed, which can be a crippling combination. Luckily for Whismur, it has the highest Special Attack stat of any Normal-type that has access to a good special STAB move, giving it a useful niche. Since Whismur is so slow, it is a decent Trick Room attacker, and can fit on a team dedicated to the effect.</p>

[SET]
name: Trick Room Attacker
move 1: Hyper Voice
move 2: Fire Blast
move 3: Shadow Ball
move 4: Ice Beam
item: Life Orb
nature: Quiet
evs: 244 HP / 12 Def / 188 SpA / 12 SpD
ivs: 0 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>At its absolute minimum, Whismur reaches a glacial 6 Speed, which lets it move ahead of almost everything when Trick Room is up. Hyper Voice is a powerful STAB move that has great neutral coverage, making it the perfect choice to use as Whismur's main attacking option. Fire Blast hits Steel-types that resist Hyper Voice, such as Ferroseed and Magnemite, super effectively. Shadow Ball is used in the third slot to hit common Ghost-types such as Gastly and Frillish. Lastly, Ice Beam is mainly filler, but is Whismur's strongest move against the otherwise dangerous Lileep.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Bulky Fighting-types, such as Scraggy and Timburr, cause this set problems with their super effective STAB moves. A bulky Pokemon that resists Fighting-type moves would be a good choice; two good options for this job are Shelmet and Grimer. Munchlax and Lickitung have high HP and Special Defense, so they can tank all of Whismur's moves effectively. Fighting-types are therefore good teammates for Whismur, as they can take a hit and heal off the damage with Drain Punch. Whismur also needs teammates to set up Trick Room, and Duskull, Porygon, and Slowpoke are all good choices.</p>

[Other Options]

<p>While Whismur has an incredibly large movepool, most of its options are outclassed. Fake Tears can help gain KOs, but Whismur would rather just attack. Endeavor is an interesting option as a last-ditch move to weaken something. Work Up is Whismur's way to set up, but it is much too frail to try. A mixed set could work, since Whismur's Attack and Special Attack stats are the same. Extrasensory could hit Fighting-types slightly harder, but it has little utility otherwise. Flamethrower is an option over Fire Blast for the accuracy, though the power loss is undesirable. Toxic is an interesting option to deal with Munchlax and Lickitung, though Whismur still loses to versions with Rest. Roar and Circle Throw can phaze, but Whismur is too frail to do this effectively. Finally, a physical set with Howl and various physical moves could be used, but many other Pokemon are far better at that than Whismur.</p>

[Checks and Counters]

<p>Bulky Fighting-types such as Scraggy, Mienfoo, and Timburr easily beat Whismur with their STAB moves, and are some of the best checks to it. Dwebble sets up hazards easily, since Whismur has no effective way of damaging it. Munchlax and Lickitung wall Whismur thanks to their high HP and Special Defense. Priority moves also work well, bypassing Trick Room and dealing a good amount of damage.</p>

[Dream World]

<p>Whismur gets Rattled from the Dream World. The Speed boosts are counterproductive with Trick Room, so Soundproof is preferred.</p>
 
Mention a Mixed/(maybe even physical...) set in OO or maybe even AC since its attack equals its Special Attack and it can afford to run a mixed set since it isn't investing in Speed.

Otherwise,

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"Lastly, Ice Beam is mainly filler, but is Lileep's strongest move against the otherwise dangerous Lileep." Last sentence of set comments. Just pointing that out.
 

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[Overview]

<p>Whismur is one of many Pokemon in Little Cup cursed with low stats. It is quite frail and has very low Speed, which can be a crippling combination. Luckily for Whismur, it has the highest Special Attack stat of any Normal-type that has access to a good special STAB move, giving it a useful niche. Since Whismur is so slow, it is a decent Trick Room attacker, and can fit on a team dedicated to the effect.</p>

[SET]
name: Trick Room Attacker
move 1: Hyper Voice
move 2: Fire Blast
move 3: Shadow Ball
move 4: Ice Beam
item: Life Orb
nature: Quiet
evs: 244 HP / 12 Def / 188 SpA / 12 SpD
ivs: 0 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>At its absolute minimum, Whismur reaches a glacial 6 Speed, which
outspeeds lets it move ahead of almost everything when Trick Room is up. Hyper Voice is a powerful STAB move that has great neutral coverage, making it the perfect choice to use as Whismur's main attacking option. Fire Blast hits Steel-types that resist Hyper Voice, such as Ferroseed and Magnemite, super effectively. Shadow Ball is used in the third slot to hit common Ghost-types such as Gastly and Frillish. Lastly, Ice Beam is mainly filler, but is Whismur's strongest move against the otherwise dangerous Lileep.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Bulky Fighting-types, such as Scraggy and Timburr, cause this set problems with their super effective STAB moves.
Carrying a A bulky Pokemon that resists Fighting-type moves would be a good choice; , and two good options for this job bare Shelmet and Grimer. Munchlax and Lickitung have high HP and Special Defense, so they can tank all of Whismur's moves effectively. Fighting-types are therefore good teammates for Whismur, as they can take a hit and heal off the damage with Drain Punch. Whismur also needs teammates to set up Trick Room, and Duskull, Porygon, and Slowpoke are all good choices.</p>

[Other Options]

<p>While Whismur has an incredibly large movepool, most of its options are outclassed. Fake Tears can help gain KOs, but Whismur would rather just attack. Endeavor is an interesting option as a last-ditch move to weaken something. Work Up is Whismur's way to set up, but it is much too frail to try. A mixed set could work, since Whismur's Attack and Special Attack stats are the same. Extrasensory could hit Fighting-types slightly harder, but it has little utility otherwise. Flamethrower is an option over Fire Blast for the accuracy, though the power loss is undesirable. Toxic is an interesting option to deal with Munchlax and Lickitung, though Whismur still loses to versions with Rest. Roar and Circle Throw can phaze, but Whismur is too frail to do this
that effectively. Finally, a physical set with Howl and various physical moves could be used, but many other Pokemon are far better at that than Whismur is.</p>

[Checks and Counters]

<p>Bulky Fighting-types such as Scraggy, Mienfoo, and Timburr easily beat Whismur with their STAB moves, and are some of the best checks to it. Dwebble sets up hazards easily, since Whismur has no effective way of damaging it. Munchlax and Lickitung wall Whismur thanks to their high HP and Special Defense. Priority moves also work well, bypassing Trick Room and dealing a good amount of damage.</p>

[Dream World]

<p>Whismur gets Rattled from the Dream World. The Speed boosts are counterproductive with Trick Room, meaning that Soundproof is preferred.</p>

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[Overview]

<p>Whismur is one of many Pokemon in Little Cup cursed with low stats. It is quite frail,(comma) and has very low Speed, which can be a crippling combination. Luckily for Whismur, it has the highest Special Attack stat of any Normal-type that has access to a good special STAB move, giving it a useful niche. Since Whismur is so slow, it is a decent Trick Room attacker, and can fit on a team dedicated to the effect.</p>

[SET]
name: Trick Room Attacker
move 1: Hyper Voice
move 2: Fire Blast
move 3: Shadow Ball
move 4: Ice Beam
item: Life Orb
nature: Quiet
evs: 244 HP / 12 Def / 188 SpA / 12 SpD
ivs: 0 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>At its absolute minimum, Whismur reaches a glacial 6 Speed, which lets it move ahead of almost everything when Trick Room is up. Hyper Voice is a powerful STAB move that has great neutral coverage, making it the perfect choice to use as Whismur's main attacking option. Fire Blast hits Steel-types that resist Hyper Voice, such as Ferroseed and Magnemite, super effectively. Shadow Ball is used in the third slot to hit common Ghost-types such as Gastly and Frillish. Lastly, Ice Beam is mainly filler, but is Whismur's strongest move against the otherwise dangerous Lileep.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Bulky Fighting-types, such as Scraggy and Timburr, cause this set problems with their super effective STAB moves. A bulky Pokemon that resists Fighting-type moves would be a good choice,;(no comma) two good options for this job are Shelmet and Grimer. Munchlax and Lickitung have high HP and Special Defense, so they can tank all of Whismur's moves effectively. Fighting-types are therefore good teammates for Whismur, as they can take a hit and heal off the damage with Drain Punch. Whismur also needs teammates to set up Trick Room, and Duskull, Porygon, and Slowpoke are all good choices.</p>

[Other Options]

<p>While Whismur has an incredibly large movepool, most of its options are outclassed. Fake Tears can help gain KOs, but Whismur would rather just attack. Endeavor is an interesting option as a last-ditch move to weaken something. Work Up is Whismur's way to set up, but it is much too frail to try. A mixed set could work, since Whismur's Attack and Special Attack stats are the same. Extrasensory could hit Fighting-types slightly harder, but it has little utility otherwise. Flamethrower is an option over Fire Blast for the accuracy, though the power loss is undesirable. Toxic is an interesting option to deal with Munchlax and Lickitung, though Whismur still loses to versions with Rest. Roar and Circle Throw can phaze, but Whismur is too frail to do this effectively. Finally, a physical set with Howl and various physical moves could be used, but many other Pokemon are far better at that than Whismur.</p>

[Checks and Counters]

<p>Bulky Fighting-types such as Scraggy, Mienfoo, and Timburr easily beat Whismur with their STAB moves, and are some of the best checks to it. Dwebble sets up hazards easily, since Whismur has no effective way of damaging it. Munchlax and Lickitung wall Whismur thanks to their high HP and Special Defense. Priority moves also work well, bypassing Trick Room and dealing a good amount of damage.</p>

[Dream World]

<p>Whismur gets Rattled from the Dream World. The Speed boosts are counterproductive with Trick Room, meaning that so Soundproof is preferred.</p>


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