Raichu

dragonboy52 · Aug 24th, 2011, 10:47:54 AM

Raichu

Raichu is the final evolution of the 'chu' family.
Base Stats:
HP:60
Attack:90
Defence:55
Sp.Attack:90
Sp.Defence 80
Speed:100

Moves:

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Singles Set

Nature: Timid/Modest
Move1:Thunder Bolt
Move2:Hidden Power Ice/Focus Blast
Move 3:Agility
Move4:Encore
EVS: 4 HP, 252Sp.Attack, 252 Speed
Item: Life Orb/Leftovers
Ability: Lightning Rod

-You can either choose Thunder or ThunderBolt depending on if or if not your using a rain dance team. Thunder is a better option if your running a rain dance team.

-Hidden power Ice is mostly for hitting dragon types and focus blast for hitting steel types.
-NastyPlot/Agility to attempt to sweep your opponents team.
-Raichu is a very good switch in to electric types. Encore is to lock-in an opponent into a Electric Type move so Raichu can get the Sp.Attack boosts with lightning rod.

Nature: Jolly/Adamant
Move1:Volt Tackle
Move2:Substitue
Move 3:Focus Punch
Move4:Encore/Grass Knot
EVS: 4 HP, 252 Attack, 252 Speed
Item:Leftovers
Ability: Static
-SubPunching Raichu packs a lot of power to hit many pokemon, mainly Steel and Normal types. (Blissey for example.)
-Volt Tackle is a very powerful physical type attack which hits many pokemon hard.

**Solace*** · Aug 24th, 2011, 11:53:49 AM

include bullet points on why you chose the moves for each set

on the nasty plot/agility set you dont need volt switch since that loses your boosts.

you can also combine the life orb/leftovers set as they're basically the same things with a different item.

might need a few formatting changes but i'll decide on that later, after these things are fixed.

SJCrew · Aug 24th, 2011, 11:59:41 AM

Man, I forgot all about Lightningrod's effect in doubles. Raichu could be the hot new thing in VGC competitions; pair it with Manectric or Electivire and Discharge spam could become one of the douchiest strategies ever.

Zyrac · Aug 24th, 2011, 12:17:47 PM

The thing about Discharge spam is that you lose to basically any Ground-type. One Earthquake takes down both your pokes. It would work better with Lightningrod Zapdos, if that gets released.

Ashenlock · Aug 24th, 2011, 1:48:00 PM

I've been waiting pretty anxiously for Lightningrod Zapdos, myself.

I don't have a comprehensive set to post for Doubles Raichu, since my experience is limited with it, but if you do post one don't forget about Fake Out.

dragonboy52 · Aug 24th, 2011, 2:17:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Ashenlock

I've been waiting pretty anxiously for Lightningrod Zapdos, myself.

I don't have a comprehensive set to post for Doubles Raichu, since my experience is limited with it, but if you do post one don't forget about Fake Out.

I'll add a fakeout lead set.

**PK Gaming** · Aug 24th, 2011, 2:19:22 PM

If you want to use that coolest electric type around, you need make sure it isn't outclassed by Thundurus. The first sets cool but encore shouldn't be slashed at all, its the only thing that makes Raichu viable. Secondly, slash air balloon as an item choice because immunity to ground is cool and you can screw over EQ users by encoring EQ.

The second set is kinda bleh since Thundurus can do it better. Try:

name: Sub Punch
move 1: Volt Tackle
move 2: Substitute
move 3: Focus Punch
move 4: Encore / Grass Knot
item: Leftovers
ability: ~~Lightningrod~~ Static
nature: Jolly / Adamant
evs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 spe

The main set is waaaaay to slashy. There's no need to slash Thunder when you mention using Thunder in the set comments if Rain is present. Agility doesn't deserve a slash because Raichu isn't strong enough to abuse it and likewise Substitute doesn't deserve a slash either.

SJCrew · Aug 24th, 2011, 2:29:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Zyrac

The thing about Discharge spam is that you lose to basically any Ground-type. One Earthquake takes down both your pokes. It would work better with Lightningrod Zapdos, if that gets released.

Ok. Nice post. But I need you to think about that for a second.

1) Disharge targets everything. Even if Landorus comes in, my partner is still getting hit (boosted).

2) We know Ground types are immune to Electric. Which is why Hidden Power Grass/Ice/Grass Knot are omnipresent on sets for Electric-types. When was the last time you saw an Electric-type and went "oh, Gliscor can wall this!"?

3) How many Ground-types are faster than Manectric? Let's run down the list: Dugtrio.

Yep, that's it.

In VGC, you should be more concerned with strategy than type match-ups. Only 4 Pokemon are gonna show up, and they will all most likely be
offensive. Execute, execute, execute.

....

Exeggcute.

Zyrac · Aug 24th, 2011, 3:15:11 PM

Okay, I was overstating it when I said you lose to any Ground-type. But my point is they only have to EQ once, and that doesn't seem too hard. Choice Scarf, Trick Room, Sand Rush, Tailwind, Rage Powder, Focus Sash... The strategy is viable, I guess, but it strikes me as a tad too risky.

Joel · Aug 24th, 2011, 3:19:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat SJCrew

Man, I forgot all about Lightningrod's effect in doubles. Raichu could be the hot new thing in VGC competitions; pair it with Manectric or Electivire and Discharge spam could become one of the douchiest strategies ever.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Zyrac

The thing about Discharge spam is that you lose to basically any Ground-type. One Earthquake takes down both your pokes. It would work better with Lightningrod Zapdos, if that gets released.

Same theory here, but an Eviolite Porygon2 is bulky, can spam Discharge...but can also use Ice Beam to assist with Ground types.

dragonboy52 · Aug 24th, 2011, 3:25:33 PM

@PKGaming thanks, I'll make those changes.

Also how viable would a FakeOut+Encore lead be?

**Solace*** · Aug 24th, 2011, 4:31:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat PK Gaming

If you want to use that coolest electric type around, you need make sure it isn't outclassed by Thundurus. The first sets cool but encore shouldn't be slashed at all, its the only thing that makes Raichu viable. Secondly, slash air balloon as an item choice because immunity to ground is cool and you can screw over EQ users by encoring EQ.

The second set is kinda bleh since Thundurus can do it better. Try:

name: Sub Punch
move 1: Volt Tackle
move 2: Substitute
move 3: Focus Punch
move 4: Encore / Grass Knot
item: Leftovers
ability: Lightningrod
nature: Jolly / Adamant
evs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 spe

The main set is waaaaay to slashy. There's no need to slash Thunder when you mention using Thunder in the set comments if Rain is present. Agility doesn't deserve a slash because Raichu isn't strong enough to abuse it and likewise Substitute doesn't deserve a slash either.

if i could luvdisc single posts i would luvdisc this one!

totally agree with this set!

***Wild Eep**** · Aug 24th, 2011, 6:58:50 PM

Sadly, it appears that Lightningrod and Focus Punch are incompatible - LR requires breeding in the 5th gen, and Focus Punch requires existence in gens 3 or 4 (FP is not a TM in gen 5).

**PK Gaming** · Aug 24th, 2011, 7:20:05 PM

Ah thats unfortunate.

DreamTalon · Aug 25th, 2011, 8:11:19 PM

Raichu Doubles Set

Role: Raichu at first glance doesn’t look like a very good pokemon. It is fragile, doesn’t have the best attack, and is weak to the common Ground type move. However, Raichu isn’t meant to tank hits or deal damage. It is gifted with a high speed, Fake Out, and Lightning Rod, a gift no other pokemon has.

Stats:
HP: 60
Attack: 90
Defense: 55
Special Attack: 90
Special Defense: 80
Speed: 100

Set: Lightning Rod
Raichu @ Focus Sash/Shuca Berry
Lightning Rod
Timid
252 SpAtk, 236 Spe, 20 HP
Fake Out
Thunderbolt
Hidden Power Ice/Grass Knot
Protect/Encore

Raichu is useful when you have a Discharge partner, such as Thundurus or Zapdos. This is where Fake Out comes in. Their choice is a hard one. They either get one pokemon disabled for a turn and let Raichu get hit by a Discharge, giving it a boost, or double Protect and still let Raichu get a boost. Thunderbolt is a good STAB to have, as it hits Flying types such as Tornadus hard. Hidden Power Ice hits everything that Thunderbolt doesn’t, but loses to Gastrodon and Lanturn. Grass Knot hits Gastrodon hard, but it loses to Dragon and Grass types. The choice between Protect/Feint is tough. You can either have a way to outwit your opponent, or stop take advantage of their Fake Outs and Protects with their Encore.

Notes:

Keep in mind that Raichu may be an Electric type, but abuse of Thunder in Rain isn’t a good idea. There are better Fake Out pokemon to use in Rain, such as Toxicroak and Ludicolo. Raichu has its own niche in Lightning Rod. The EVs given allow Raichu to out speed max speed neutral natured base 110s. The rest of the EVs are put into Special Attack and HP. The item is the simplest choice of all. As Raichu doesn’t have much bulk at all, Focus Sash is the obvious choice. However, if Focus Sash is already on your team, Shuca Berry is the better choice. Some notable moves on Raichu are Helping Hand for support, but Raichu, again, has very little bulk to pull of support. Feint also gets mention, as it beats Protects on your pokemon.

Ughh... Fonts I'll fix.
EDIT: Fixed.

Aug 24th, 2011, 10:47:54 AM	#1
dragonboy52 Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,964	Raichu Raichu Raichu is the final evolution of the 'chu' family. Base Stats: HP:60 Attack:90 Defence:55 Sp.Attack:90 Sp.Defence 80 Speed:100 Moves: ... Movepool: (Pichu) Lv1: ThunderShock, Lv1: Charm, Lv5: Tail Whip, Lv10: Thunder Wave, Lv13: Sweet Kiss, Lv18: Nasty Plot (Pikachu) Lv1: Growl, Lv1: ThunderShock, Lv5: Tail Whip, Lv10: Thunder Wave, Lv13: Quick Attack, Lv18: Electi Ball, Lv21: Double Team, Lv26: Slam, Lv29: Thunderbolt, Lv34: Feint, Lv37: Agility, Lv42: Discharge, Lv45: Light Screen, Lv50: Thunder TM list: Learnable TMs: , TM06 - Toxic, TM10 - Hidden Power, TM15 - Hyper Beam, TM16 - Light Screen, TM17 - Protect, TM18 - Rain Dance, TM21 - Frustration, TM24 - Thunderbolt, TM25 - Thunder, TM27 - Return, TM28 - Dig, TM31 - Brick Break, TM32 - Double Team, TM42 - Facade, TM44 - Rest, TM45 - Attract, TM46 - Thief, TM48 - Troll, TM49 - Echo Voice, TM52 - Focus Blast, TM56 - Fling, TM57 - Charge Beam, TM68 - Giga Impact, TM70 - Flash, TM72 - Volt Charge, TM73 - Thunder Wave, TM86 - Grass Knot, TM87 - Swagger, TM90 - Substitute, TM93 - Wild Bolt, TM94 - Rock Smash, HM04 - Strength Egg moves:Reversal ,Bide, Present, Encore, DoubleSlap Wish, Charge, Fake Out ThunderPunch, Tickle, Flail, Endure, Lucky Chant, Gift Pass Singles Set Nature: Timid/Modest Move1:Thunder Bolt Move2:Hidden Power Ice/Focus Blast Move 3:Agility Move4:Encore EVS: 4 HP, 252Sp.Attack, 252 Speed Item: Life Orb/Leftovers Ability: Lightning Rod -You can either choose Thunder or ThunderBolt depending on if or if not your using a rain dance team. Thunder is a better option if your running a rain dance team. -Hidden power Ice is mostly for hitting dragon types and focus blast for hitting steel types. -NastyPlot/Agility to attempt to sweep your opponents team. -Raichu is a very good switch in to electric types. Encore is to lock-in an opponent into a Electric Type move so Raichu can get the Sp.Attack boosts with lightning rod. Nature: Jolly/Adamant Move1:Volt Tackle Move2:Substitue Move 3:Focus Punch Move4:Encore/Grass Knot EVS: 4 HP, 252 Attack, 252 Speed Item:Leftovers Ability: Static -SubPunching Raichu packs a lot of power to hit many pokemon, mainly Steel and Normal types. (Blissey for example.) -Volt Tackle is a very powerful physical type attack which hits many pokemon hard. __________________ Last edited by dragonboy52; Aug 25th, 2011 at 6:58:03 AM.

Aug 24th, 2011, 11:53:49 AM	#2
Solace* i was born to save the doctor Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,979 i love #thatPOWER Mentor	include bullet points on why you chose the moves for each set on the nasty plot/agility set you dont need volt switch since that loses your boosts. you can also combine the life orb/leftovers set as they're basically the same things with a different item. might need a few formatting changes but i'll decide on that later, after these things are fixed. __________________ when ppl are like ‘the new pokemon are so unoriginal and dumb’ im like?? ? ? celebi was a flying onion

Aug 24th, 2011, 11:59:41 AM	#3
SJCrew Believer, going on a journey... Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,802	Man, I forgot all about Lightningrod's effect in doubles. Raichu could be the hot new thing in VGC competitions; pair it with Manectric or Electivire and Discharge spam could become one of the douchiest strategies ever. __________________ (02:53:55) +shrang: sleep is epic (16:14) .No Scrafty in UU.: CBtar? (16:14) .No Scrafty in UU.: that sounds like a not bad set (16:04:25) +Steamroll: nobody likes me @Relados: snowflakes has no sense of humor

Aug 24th, 2011, 1:48:00 PM	#5
Ashenlock Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 954 Drinking more Coca-Cola than all the polar bears combined.	I've been waiting pretty anxiously for Lightningrod Zapdos, myself. I don't have a comprehensive set to post for Doubles Raichu, since my experience is limited with it, but if you do post one don't forget about Fake Out. __________________ 441 D/Cs and counting, baby! The Jerk Store* <- For reference only Contrary to popular belief, this is not a compendium of people who disconnect on Wi-Fi. See: Seinfeld*, "The Comeback."

Aug 24th, 2011, 2:19:22 PM	#7
PK Gaming Quiet Thunder God Moderator Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 4,527 Izanagi	If you want to use that coolest electric type around, you need make sure it isn't outclassed by Thundurus. The first sets cool but encore shouldn't be slashed at all, its the only thing that makes Raichu viable. Secondly, slash air balloon as an item choice because immunity to ground is cool and you can screw over EQ users by encoring EQ. The second set is kinda bleh since Thundurus can do it better. Try: name: Sub Punch move 1: Volt Tackle move 2: Substitute move 3: Focus Punch move 4: Encore / Grass Knot item: Leftovers ability: ~~Lightningrod~~ Static nature: Jolly / Adamant evs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 spe The main set is waaaaay to slashy. There's no need to slash Thunder when you mention using Thunder in the set comments if Rain is present. Agility doesn't deserve a slash because Raichu isn't strong enough to abuse it and likewise Substitute doesn't deserve a slash either. __________________ Last edited by PK Gaming; Aug 24th, 2011 at 7:16:49 PM.

Aug 24th, 2011, 12:17:47 PM	#4
Zyrac Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 65	The thing about Discharge spam is that you lose to basically any Ground-type. One Earthquake takes down both your pokes. It would work better with Lightningrod Zapdos, if that gets released.

Aug 24th, 2011, 3:15:11 PM	#9
Zyrac Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 65	Okay, I was overstating it when I said you lose to any Ground-type. But my point is they only have to EQ once, and that doesn't seem too hard. Choice Scarf, Trick Room, Sand Rush, Tailwind, Rage Powder, Focus Sash... The strategy is viable, I guess, but it strikes me as a tad too risky.

Aug 24th, 2011, 3:25:33 PM	#11
dragonboy52 Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,964	@PKGaming thanks, I'll make those changes. Also how viable would a FakeOut+Encore lead be? __________________

Aug 24th, 2011, 6:58:50 PM	#13
*Wild Eep Iron Bahbs Super Moderator** Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,603 Vine Trip Mentor	Sadly, it appears that Lightningrod and Focus Punch are incompatible - LR requires breeding in the 5th gen, and Focus Punch requires existence in gens 3 or 4 (FP is not a TM in gen 5). __________________

Aug 24th, 2011, 7:20:05 PM	#14
PK Gaming Quiet Thunder God Moderator Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 4,527 Izanagi	Ah thats unfortunate. __________________

Aug 25th, 2011, 8:11:19 PM	#15
DreamTalon Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 186 Dallas, Texas	Raichu Doubles Set Role: Raichu at first glance doesn’t look like a very good pokemon. It is fragile, doesn’t have the best attack, and is weak to the common Ground type move. However, Raichu isn’t meant to tank hits or deal damage. It is gifted with a high speed, Fake Out, and Lightning Rod, a gift no other pokemon has. Stats: HP: 60 Attack: 90 Defense: 55 Special Attack: 90 Special Defense: 80 Speed: 100 Set: Lightning Rod Raichu @ Focus Sash/Shuca Berry Lightning Rod Timid 252 SpAtk, 236 Spe, 20 HP Fake Out Thunderbolt Hidden Power Ice/Grass Knot Protect/Encore Raichu is useful when you have a Discharge partner, such as Thundurus or Zapdos. This is where Fake Out comes in. Their choice is a hard one. They either get one pokemon disabled for a turn and let Raichu get hit by a Discharge, giving it a boost, or double Protect and still let Raichu get a boost. Thunderbolt is a good STAB to have, as it hits Flying types such as Tornadus hard. Hidden Power Ice hits everything that Thunderbolt doesn’t, but loses to Gastrodon and Lanturn. Grass Knot hits Gastrodon hard, but it loses to Dragon and Grass types. The choice between Protect/Feint is tough. You can either have a way to outwit your opponent, or stop take advantage of their Fake Outs and Protects with their Encore. Notes: Keep in mind that Raichu may be an Electric type, but abuse of Thunder in Rain isn’t a good idea. There are better Fake Out pokemon to use in Rain, such as Toxicroak and Ludicolo. Raichu has its own niche in Lightning Rod. The EVs given allow Raichu to out speed max speed neutral natured base 110s. The rest of the EVs are put into Special Attack and HP. The item is the simplest choice of all. As Raichu doesn’t have much bulk at all, Focus Sash is the obvious choice. However, if Focus Sash is already on your team, Shuca Berry is the better choice. Some notable moves on Raichu are Helping Hand for support, but Raichu, again, has very little bulk to pull of support. Feint also gets mention, as it beats Protects on your pokemon. Ughh... Fonts I'll fix. EDIT: Fixed. __________________ "We must treasure these (Unown), since they are us at our very core... ALSO, DID YOU KNOW THAT YOU CAN MAKE WORDS OUT OF THEM? THAT'S PRETTY COOL!!!!!!!!" Last edited by DreamTalon; Aug 25th, 2011 at 8:15:44 PM. Reason: Fonts are on it....