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the pastor of disaster
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Join Date: Oct 2008
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Overview When I began playing this round of UU, I was appalled by the apparent dominance of Sand at the top of the ladder, considering the number of repeated weaknesses Sand teams have, and the number of Pokemon that are very problematic for Sand teams to face. I assembled a testing team to test out as many anti-Sand Pokemon as I could think of. I began with Mew/Aggron/Omastar/Porygon2/Mamoswine/Spiritomb, but I ended up realized I was Heracross weak and switching Aggron to Gligar, and Omastar to Kingdra. I didn't realize at the time what I was onto with offensive Porygon2, but it wasn't long before I learned that I had vastly underrated the little mechanical duck. Playstyle Download Destruction is bulky offense, plain and simple. Every Pokemon on the team except Gligar hits pretty hard, and the team has the defensive versatility needed for a lot of switching around. The Team ![]() Mew @ Leftovers Trait: Synchronize EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk) - Zen Headbutt - Drain Punch - Sucker Punch - Swords Dance Swords Dance Mew is a significantly forgotten threat in the current metagame. Able to OHKO Roserade with Zen Headbutt, Mew is a true tank that is good at cleaning up. Despite the former popularity of its cousin, Swords Dance Celebi, people still don't seem to expect Sucker Punch. Although it's the Pokemon I put first in the teambuilder so that I can bluff lead support Mew, I only actually lead Mew if I expect Roserade to lead for the enemy team. ![]() Gligar (F) @ Eviolite Trait: Sand Veil EVs: 252 HP / 208 Def / 48 Spd Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk) - Earthquake - Toxic - Stealth Rock - Roost Gligar is mostly a utility defensive Pokemon for this team, able to handle Heracross and Escavalier while setting up Stealth Rock. Eviolite makes Gligar bulky enough to take on practically any physical threat that doesn't carry Water or Ice attacks. The speed EVs are there to outrun minimum speed Roserade, should the situation arise. Gligar also helps against Sand when it comes to taking on Stoutland, Golurk and Rhyperior. ![]() Porygon2 @ Eviolite Trait: Download EVs: 252 HP / 252 SAtk / 4 Spd Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk) - Discharge - Ice Beam - Tri Attack - Recover The MVP and star of the show, offensive Porygon2 is hands down the strongest and most useful Pokemon I've used yet in UU. Trace is not particularly useful in UU, and Download allows you to hit very, very hard if you switch in on a defensive Pokemon like Hippowdon. The nice part about being Normal type is that you can switch Porygon2 into a really large range of Pokemon, from bulky Waters to Donphan. I use Discharge over Thunderbolt because my team likes paralysis and because quite a few Pokemon are 2HKOed by Discharge + Tri Attack if Discharge paralyzes them (Kingdra being the most notable example). ![]() Mamoswine (F) @ Life Orb Trait: Snow Cloak EVs: 72 HP / 252 Atk / 184 Spd Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk) - Earthquake - Superpower - Ice Shard - Icicle Spear Most Sand teams have absolutely no idea what to do against Mamoswine. One of the most threatening and underrated Pokemon in UU, Mamoswine gives me a second priority user, which is useful for handling threats that have already set up. A safer switch into Pokemon like Jolteon than Gligar is, given its neutrality to Ice. The EVs are a little strange; I couldn't think of a good speed number to target, so I just went with outspeeding Adamant Honchkrow. I realize that Icicle Crash is probably more reliable overall than Icicle Spear, but I tend to be a little paranoid regarding hitting Pokemon like SubSeed Abomasnow and SubRoost Zapdos. Superpower is my best shot at KOing Snorlax and enemy Porygon2. ![]() Spiritomb (F) @ BlackGlasses Trait: Pressure EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SAtk Brave Nature (+Atk, -Spd) - Pursuit - Sucker Punch - Shadow Sneak - Hidden Power [Fighting] No one ever expects BlackGlasses Spiritomb! Obviously useful for Alakazam, Spiritomb's Sucker Punch is actually a lot stronger than one would think--it does 45.2% - 53.8% to Flygon, for instance. A strong Pursuit makes Stoutland much easier for my team to deal with. Hidden Power Fighting is a relatively new addition to this set, it is 100% there for keeping Bisharp from switching in; Bisharp is an absolute terror for this team. ![]() Kingdra (F) @ Choice Specs Trait: Swift Swim EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk) - Hydro Pump - Surf - Draco Meteor - Dragon Pulse If you don't have Chansey or Empoleon, you're in for a world of hurt. To give you an idea, 188 HP /216 SpD Careful Snorlax takes 35.4% - 41.9% from Hydro Pump. You need something in UU to take Victini V-Creates, Darmanitan Flare Blitzes and Chandelure Fire Blasts, and Kingdra does it well while hitting virtually everything hard. The nice thing about Specs Kingdra is that ChestoRest DD Kingdra is what everyone tends to worry about, meaning you receive plenty of opportunities to 2HKO Pokemon like Blastoise with Draco Meteor. Threat List Offensive Eelektross: Slow enough that you really can just attack it and kill it. Getting Porygon2 in on an HP Ice or Flamethrower makes this easier. Lilligant: I haven't seen any, but I would probably need to revenge kill it with priority. Rotom-C: Porygon2 handles it well enough. Rotom-H: Kingdra comes in on Overheat, otherwise Porygon2. Rotom-F: Porygon2. Defensive Deoxys-D: Hugely annoying. Minimum speed Deoxys-D isn't a problem, but max speed Deoxys-D is really hard to kill. |
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It's Great! To Be! A Michigan Wolverine!
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 1,795
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uu team with no spikes noob
Kidding, this team is great. I played against it on the ladder and my Sand team never managed to beat it. Every time that Porygon2 came in I felt I was going to lose another Pokemon. This team is one of the best Bulky Offensive teams in UU I feel because it is really, really anti-metagame. The core of Porygon2 and Kingdra is simply amazing. It makes Fire-types a non-issue and punches holes in teams. I think the advent of that Porygon2 set is really going to make me reconsider whether Sand is broken or not, as no common Sand Pokemon can switch into a Porygon2. I feel the weakest link on this team is Mamoswine if anything, but I'm not sure what could fit there. Since there aren't any Spikes on this team it makes it easier for Bulky Waters to switch in, which could cost you some momentum. Maybe a Rotom-H could go here instead? A Choice Scarf Rotom-H can Trick its Scarf onto walls, punish the Bulky Waters that should (but aren't) be on Sand teams, and is an even better switch into Jolteon because of its resistances to Electric and Ice. Rotom-H also has the benefit of resisting Galvantula, who you said annoys you. If you want more power, maybe Choice Specs could work? Volt Switch givs you tons of momentum...
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 1,337
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replacing mew's zen headbutt with substitute would keep bisharp from trolling your team. an offensive pokemon without its stab move just seems a bit odd though
oh and i didn't know big 'ole mamoswine learns superpower. thanks!
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Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 274
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So you're lepardasu! Will, this is a great team, utilizing one of the best, under used thats in the meta. Great
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 497
Pac Time(LA/corvallis OR)
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I'm kind of jealous because I wanted to be the one who popularized Blackglasses Spiritomb ;/
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Banned deucer.
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 464
North Carolina
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Mew really seems like the biggest threat to me. Burns hurt this team a lot. With Specs Kingdra and Porygon2 it's definitely beatable, but I'd imagine a Mew + dedicated special wall is pretty hard to break. Offensive electrics are probably a big threat too, but that's handled by all of the priority on the team. I guess you can just beat mew by burning it via Synchronize, though it still takes a lot of clever play to beat it from there. If you actually want to try something to help those problems the Rotom-h Detroitlolcat mentioned is alright. It's not great against Mew since Psychic will just 2HKO after SR, but it deters Mew from throwing around burns. I probably wouldn't change any mons out though. Your team can play around pretty much anything thanks to all the priority and bulk of P2 + Gligar. I think more bulk on Kingdra would be appreciated on Kingdra though, to better take the powerful Water/Fire attacks as it's your only resist to both of those types. That's pretty minor, however. Great team. Love that Mew.
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