Persian (QC 3/3)

[Overview]

• excellent scout with fake out + u-turn
• base 115 speed
• can use a nasty plot set
• no more competition form ambipom
• poor offenses
• frail

[SET]
name: Scout
move1: Fake Out
move2: U-turn
move3: Taunt / Bite
move4: Return
item: Life Orb / Silk Scarf
ability: Technician
Nature: Jolly
evs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe


[SET COMMENTS]

• excellent scout
• "free damage" with fake out + u-turn
• Return for STAB and to hit as hard as possible
• Bite has a flinch chance, and hits 90 power with technician
• Seed bomb hits Golem and Rhydon hard
• Life Orb gives more power, silk scarf takes away recoil

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

• Hypnosis can be used over a coverage move, but it is unreliable
• foul play can be used, but bite is nearly as strong
• Faint attack can be used, but bite's flinch chance is sorely missed
• taunt can be used to stop status and stealth rock

[SET]
name: Evil Kitten
move1: Nasty Plot
move2: Swift
move3: Water Pulse
move4: Thunderbolt
item: Life Orb
ability: Technician
nature: Timid
evs: 4 Def / 252 Spa / 252 Spe


[SET COMMENTS]

• Persian's Spa is only slightly lower than attack
• swift gets a technician boost and hits hard after a NP
• water pulse hits Rock-Types such as golem and rhydon
• Thunderbolt hits the only thing that resists both attacks, frillish
• reaches 458 special attack after a nasty plot

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

• cool lure, can take down rhydon easily
• hazards are important to this set to get certain Koes, as persians Spa is still kinda low after a NP
• frail, needs support to set up
• Dual screens really help persian by boosting its defense

[Other Options]

• choice band
• night slash
• foul play
• power gem on NP set
• aerial ace
• weather starter
• torment
  Knock Off

[Checks and Counters]

• pursuit users
• priority
• Throh
• Sawk
• scarfed pogeymons
• anything with defense
  Weezing

will be adding more soon

not entirely sold on the NP set, can you post some calcs on what it does to its usual counters/checks?

tennisace said:

not entirely sold on the NP set, can you post some calcs on what it does to its usual counters/checks?

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the nasty plot was the main set last gen, ill post calcs anyway tho

Mebbe Knock Off in OO, due to the prevalence of Eviolite reliant pokes?

done and done

I'd definitely much rather have Taunt/Hypnosis on the scout set rather than coverage moves and stuff. Persian has a cool niche in being the fastest sleep inducer in NU and even though its accuracy sucks it's still more valuable than Seed Bomb (which only has a small chance of 2HKOing 252 HP / 252 Atk Adamant Rhydon). Fast Taunts are pretty neat too. I'd rather have one of those than a coverage move off of base 70 Attack that doesn't even always 2HKO the one prominent mon that it's supposed to hit. Seed Bomb is worth a mention, sure, just not really the first slash.

What about Switcheroo with Choice Scarf / Band?

happy endorphins said:

What about Switcheroo with Choice Scarf / Band?

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already in OO, doesnt do much except switcheroo and die IMO

damage calcs

+2 Persian swift vs standard weezing 97.9-115.7%
+2 Persian water pulse vs specially defensive rhydon 179.71-211.59
+2 persian thunderbolt vs Specially defensive frillish 58.6-69.3
+2 Persian thunderbolt vs specially defensive slowking 59.4-69.54

not bad, dont know what you think of it

water pulse hits steels such as golem and rhydon

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Might want to edit this

done

I wouldn't personally use NP on a team but I can see the merit.

used NP last gen it was decent, and I can definitely see it working this gen. maybe put those calcs in the analysis? idk if you need to but still

I don't think I'd be using NP much either but it's cute and clears out Rhydon for other mons.

QC (3/3)

will get this done in when we are allowed