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Old Sep 24th, 2012, 6:14:03 PM   #1
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Default Leader Athenodoros vs C$FP

Whatever humans build, water will eventually pull it down. Stones fall to ice and erosion, wood rots in the humiditiy, and metal rust. Dihydrogen monoxide is both necessary for life, and the bane of mortal construction. Societites position themselves along a water source, but fall to floods and hurricanes.

What happens when the element of man enters the domain of the water?

Arena


Leader Athenodoros:
Typhon the Lapras
Poseidon the Swampert
Astraea the Starmie
Tethys the Cloyster
Actaea the Krillowatt
Nestor the Slowking


C$FP:
Electro the Magnezone
Spike the Ferrothorn
Fried the Krillowatt
Zeus the Cyclohm
Starmie
Necturna



1=Athenodoros Leads
2=C$FP leads

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Old Sep 25th, 2012, 10:01:57 PM   #2
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Imma lead with my trusty (jk I've hardly used these guys before) Grass mons:


Spike the Ferrothorn @ Life Orb|Necturna @ Life Orb
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Old Sep 29th, 2012, 10:58:44 AM   #3
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Sorry about this. I unexpectedly didn't have any internets for three days, but I'm going to have to put actions up tomorrow because I've hardly slept in a week, including nights straight on the ground for the last few days. I should only be about 12 hours. Hope that's fine by you both.

EDIT: I'll seriously do this this evening. I've had a lot of catching up to do in my return to civilisation.
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Old Sep 30th, 2012, 9:33:00 AM   #4
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Alright. So I'm still almost dead after my day today but I think it is time you had actions and an opponent. So here you are:


Both Pokemon holding Enigma Berries

Starmie: Reflect Type (Ferrothorn) ~ Blizzard * 2
IF
Necturna uses Pain Split (Starmie) then use Dive (Necturna)
IF one of them uses a Damaging Grass-type Move AND it's at you AND it isn't in a combo, use Dive (That Pokemon)

Cloyster: Icicle Spear (Necturna) * 3
IF
one of them uses a Damaging Grass-type Move AND it's at you AND it isn't in a combo, use Dive (That Pokemon)
IF one of them uses a Damaging Electric-type Move AND it's at you AND it isn't in a combo, use Dive (That Pokemon)

Try to be nice. At least Illuminate will help a bit.
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Old Sep 30th, 2012, 2:47:15 PM   #5
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fat Dogfish44 View Post
"Hmm, that Starmie Cloyster worries me. So let us remove it from existence. Thankfully those enigma berries only trigger after damage, and good lord how terrible is your substitution?"
Furthermore, I SHALL NOT BE FREEZE OR ACCURACY HAXED!

Spike: Sunny Day, Solarbeam + Solarbeam (Cloyster), cool down (Solarbeam + Solarbeam (Cloyster))
IF Cloyster has fainted, THEN use Swagger (Starmie)

Necturna: Gravity, Solarbeam + Solarbeam (Cloyster), cool down (Solarbeam + Solarbeam (Cloyster))
IF Cloyster has fainted, THEN use Super Fang (Starmie)
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Old Oct 6th, 2012, 6:27:26 PM   #6
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Round One: Towards the Light

Rain continues to fall.

The gym has been open for ages, but it is barley tested. His first challenger was a leader with a clear natural advantage; his second is at a disadvantage if only typing is considered. Despite this, the first round exposes two grass types to the water, met by a Cloyster and Starmie. Of course, Starmie isn't a water type for long. The Starmie's gem begins to glow and morph into a metallic green, with the coloration of its body soon following. Cloyster goes straight on the offensive, freezing some of the raindrops and blasting them out at Necturna in a barrage. The target reacts in an... interesting way. As the spears fly, it seems as if time slows down as the projectiles move slower and slower as the spatial makeup of the area is altered. When the icicles speed up again and collide, everything suddenly feels much heavier, and the rain is falling at a brutal, torrential pace as if pushed down faster by an unseen hand. Ferrothorn appears to be moving even slower than usual, but still manages to complete an ancient summoning spin that causes the torrent to halt, and sunlight to stream into the area through the icy dome.

Starmie is not impressed and, moving slower than usual, creates a wave of cool air that barely harms its targets, refreshed as they are by the sunlight and the heat it generates. Cloyster shoots out another blast of ice that pelts Necturna, but she's smiling. The gym leader begins to worry as Necturna doesn't attack, but begins to glow with Ferrothorn joining her. The leader screams to run, but his Pokemon are moving too slowly in the enhanced gravity to dodge. A massive flash of light blinds all participants in the arena, and the results are uncertain for a moment. As the arena begins to darken to a bright, but not blinding, level the results are clear. Cloyster has been blasted out, leaving Starmie to fight alone. The starfish summons a brief blizzard to mask its fear, but it knows that the battle is not going well.

The sun is shining brightly.



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Old Oct 8th, 2012, 6:46:13 PM   #7
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We sorta have to play the waiting game, since no one can really damage anyone else at all...

Spike: Thunder Wave, Swagger, chill
IF Magic Coat, THEN chill and push actions back
IF Starmie has a Substitute up AND you would not otherwise chill, THEN use Pin Missile the first and third times, Iron Head the second, pushing actions back

Necturna: Pain Split, chill, Synthesis
IF Protective/Evasive when you would use Pain Split, THEN chill and push actions back
IF Starmie has a Substitute up when you would use Pain Split, THEN use Synthesis instead
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Old Oct 12th, 2012, 6:02:14 AM   #8
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Well, you said you wanted to play the waiting game, so I decided to wait a few days.
And I've been afk for a bit. Sorry.

Astraea: Dive (Necturna) ~ Dive (Necturna) ~ STAB Flash Cannon (Necturna)

Never expected to actually use Flash Cannon, much less with STAB.
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Old Oct 12th, 2012, 8:11:09 PM   #9
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Round Two: Sunlight on the Ocean

The sun continues to shine.

Starmie ducks beneath the water as Necturna and Ferrothorn blast out pulses of spells and electricity that bolt over the shimmering water. Just a few moments later Starmie leaps out and slams into Necturna before dipping back below the water. Necturna relaxes while Ferrothorn proceeds to taunt the starfish who can't here him from below the surface. Starmie then rushes up and collides with Necturna right in the eye. Even though Necturna can easily take water attacks with its plant-nature and physical bulk, which is further boosted by the sunlight evaporiting the water.

Starmie then spins quickly until its body flashes a metallic grey. Suddenly, the sun grows slightly brighter as a bolt of light streaks across the field towards Necturna. While Plantlady is badly hurt, it is far from done and begins to glow as the sunlight heals her wounds. Ferrothorn simply rests and prepares for the third round.


The sun continues to shine (2r)!

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Old Oct 14th, 2012, 6:50:56 PM   #10
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I am going to lose because I forgot sunlight :|

Reflect Type (Ferrothorn) ~ Substitute (25) ~ Chill
IF
Ferrothorn uses Protect A1, use Substitute (25) ~ Reflect Type (Ferrothorn) ~ Chill
IF Necturna uses Snatch AND it isn't A2, use ONCE Substitute (25) ~ Reflect Type ~ Chill
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Old Oct 20th, 2012, 8:42:48 PM   #11
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this set of actions looks like it'll make things all good

Necturna: Pain Split (Starmie), chill, chill

Spike: Gyro Ball (Starmie), Iron Head (Starmie), Gyro Ball (Starmie)
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Old Oct 25th, 2012, 8:37:22 AM   #12
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Round Three: Steel on Steel

The sunlight is strong.

Starmie's gem glows for a few seconds before subsiding, although this time no colors are changed and the light is drowned out by the intense glare cast off of the water's surface. And then Necturna makes it brighter. In a tremendous flash of light, time seems to slow down as a red aura appears around Starmie, slowly depriving it of energy As Necturna grows stronger. As soon as it is freed from the spiritual embrace, Spike begins to spin in a circle as fast as it can. At some point, the speed even lifts it slightly off of the ground. Once the full attack has been prepared, Spike blasts himself out towards Starmie, skidding over the water with his momentum, and knocks the water-type back even with the neutral hit.

Starmie realizes that it can't take a beating, and would be hard pressed to go on the offense. It therefore plays defensively, glowing brightly as a shield of telepathically held water builds up around it, reflecting the intense glare from above. Necturna is far too tired to do anything at all, and merely watches as Ferrothorn bashes against the shield to seemingly little effect. Both Starmie and Necturna watch as Ferrothorn tries to break it again, spinning around rapidly until he's circling Starmie every second.

Then he slams into the gym leader's Pokemon.

And the shield breaks.

The sunlight is strong (1 round).

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Old Oct 27th, 2012, 10:42:44 PM   #13
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oh god, this match-up is so painful with Starmie's movepool

Spike: Iron Head, Gyro Ball, Iron Head
(not consecutively) IF Starmie would target you with Pain Split, THEN use Protect and push actions back

Necturna: Shadow Claw, chill, Shadow Claw
(not consecutively) IF Starmie would target you with Pain Split, THEN use Protect and push actions back
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Old Oct 31st, 2012, 2:02:52 AM   #14
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This is such an annoying situation.

Skill Swap (Natural Cure for Ferrothorn's Iron Barbs) ~ Chill ~ Recover
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Old Oct 31st, 2012, 7:24:25 PM   #15
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Match One Round Four: A slight miscalculation

The sunlight is strong.

Starmie knows it has nothing left to do but stall for its life, and telkinetically messes with Ferrothorn again, this time losing its ability to cleanse its body as Spike's exterior becomes visibly smoother and softer and Starmie's spines become more plentiful and sharper. This does not fair well for the challenger, as two physical attacks scratch into the metal starfish, but don't quite bring it down.

But of course, because Karma's a bitch, Athenodoros miscalculated how much CMFP would do after Life Orbs and lost, putting CMFP up 1-0 going into the second match!

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Athenodoros sends out two more Pokemon with items, CMFP sends out two Pokemon with items and orders, Athenodoros orders
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Old Nov 2nd, 2012, 3:16:41 AM   #16
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Kinda figured that would happen. No way for that to end well. Anyway:


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Old Nov 10th, 2012, 12:30:20 AM   #17
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aww crap this doesn't look good


Fried the Krillowatt @ Expert Belt|Zeus the Cyclohm @ Expert Belt

Fried: Hidden Power (Grass 7; Swampert), Hydro Pump (Swampert), Hidden Power (Grass 7; Swampert)
IF Swampert uses Mirror Coat, THEN target (foe) Krillowatt
IF Swampert is storing for Bide AND Swampert started storing for Bide A1 or A2, THEN target (foe) Krillowatt and change Hydro Pump to Thunder

Zeus: Hidden Power (Grass 7; Swampert), Hydro Pump (Swampert), Hidden Power (Grass 7; Swampert)
IF Swampert uses Mirror Coat, THEN target (foe) Krillowatt
IF Swampert is storing for Bide AND Swampert started storing for Bide A1 or A2, THEN target (foe) Krillowatt and change Hydro Pump to Thunder
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Old Nov 11th, 2012, 11:02:50 PM   #18
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Hopefully everything goes to plan here and we end up with a nice 2v1 again. Which I can then mess up.

Swampert: Earth Power (Cyclohm) ~ Endeavour + Endeavour (Krilowatt) ~ Cool Down (Endeavour + Endeavour (Krilowatt))
Krillowatt: Substitute (25) ~ Hydro Pump (Cyclohm) ~ Thunderbolt + Thunderbolt (Krilowatt)
IF Krilowatt faints by A3, Krillowatt uses Blizzard

And God damn I'm missing Krill's current movepool. It would make this just an instant win.

Also, Mine is the Krillowatt with the double 'l'. His is the inferior one with only one.
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Match Two: Round Two: Someone's probably doing the math wrong...

The rain continues to fall...

Two new sets of Pokemon appear, with the Gym Leader's Swampert and Krillowatt matched against the challenger's electric types, Cyclohm and Krillowatt. The gym leader's is faster, and conjurers his energy into a swirling sphere of water around him that blocks most attacks. The challenger's team takes a much more direct approach: spamming orbs of light at Swampert as he roars in frustration, being pushed back by the massive weakness. The best it can do is fire back a shot of ground-based energy at the thunder dragon, weakening it slightly.

Water then starts flying. Cyclohm and both Krillowatts launch out huge jets of it in different directions, throwing up tremendous salty sprays and making the rain seem to come down even harder. Only Swampert abstains, and it is soon clear why. The mudfish lies panting, down but not quite out. Still, it focuses on the despair of the situation and how it can really only do one thing under this kind of pressure.

And no, it isn't die.

It's die in an extremely epic manner. Swampert's fists glow extremely brightly as it charges across the field at a speed physically impossible for a member of its species, rears back before the challenger's Krillowatt and roars as it shoots out a massive hyper beam style blast of light as it barrages Krillowatt with fists of pure energy before exploding in pure light as the field settles back down. Swampert is out. Krillowatt is almost there.

The challenger fails to sieze the opportunity, staring numbly at the point where the explosion occured. In fact, he fails to notice the opponent up until the point where a tremendous crack of thunder echoes across the dome, snapping up Krillowatt and bringing the match down 1 to 1.

The rain continues to fall...

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Old Nov 13th, 2012, 10:33:35 PM   #20
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Is there are reason why Endeavour + Endeavour is only x2? I can't remember anything about a change, and IRC only gave me:

<%Objection> i think you do fixed damage * 2.25

Is that a typo, or am I missing something? I can't find anything in the DAT.

EDIT: Also, the flavour for Endeavour combo was awesome. Swampert sounded so boss.
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I think fixed damage is "return damage," which is x2, but I'm not particularly certain.
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It says return damage is ^2, not *2. Which iirc means that Counter, for example, is 1.5*1.5 = 2.25.

Are you sure you're not thinking of:

<Pwnemon> i think red got his idea
<Pwnemon> from an old ruling about non-damaging moves
<Pwnemon> where when they were comboed with themselves, the effect was simply doubled

?

But IRC seemed unsure but leaning to *2.25. At least that's how I read it.

EDIT: Although I'm happy to take the 3080 damage from using the Damage^2 calc.
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I hold that there is need to clarify how fixed damage combinations work (and that Endeavor taking a Pokemon below the HP of the user is ridiculous), for now I have fixed the data and end results. Blizzard missed, so it really only puts Athenodoros without a cooldown term and with much higher energy. Order away.
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Yay Action 1!

Anyway:

Blizzard * 3
IF
Torment, use Imprison (Torment, Thunder, Thunderbolt)
IF Bide A1, use Chill ~ Imprison (Torment, Thuner, Thunderbolt)
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I'm not sure why it took me so long to think of this

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