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Dec 1st, 2012, 11:55:51 AM
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Ubers Stats - November 2012
Rated Ubers
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Dec 1st, 2012, 12:01:45 PM
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Weavile is lower then arceus poison. Please help me.
I want it to reach top 100 by march.
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Dec 1st, 2012, 1:01:21 PM
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If Arc Poison was actually any good...
Nah JK, it's just that it has a very small niche and you can use other Arc formes, mainly Electric, Fighting, and Ground, to do what it does better without absorbing Toxic Spikes. And, another meta where Forry is above Arceus Ghost. Great job guys, great job. Finally, I never EVER see Mewtwo and its 4 in regular, 3 in suspect. Whatever.
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Dec 1st, 2012, 2:22:18 PM
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| 53 | Arceus-Fighting | 1238 | 1.716% | 967 | 1.680% |
Honestly, this is very disappointing, as Arceus-Fighting does an EXCELLENT job of checking a variety of threats, (eg Kyurem-W, Dialga, Ferrothorn, Excadrill, Tyranitar, etc.) just with its STAB, and then Ice Beam takes down Rayquaza, Shaymin-S (on the switch), Groudon, Zekrom, Garchomp, etc. USE IT MORE!!! It's WAY better than Terrakion (bulk + speed) which somehow made 30. |
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Dec 1st, 2012, 5:22:22 PM
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| 17 | Arceus-Ghost | 8991 | 12.460% | 6944 | 12.066% |
| 33 | Arceus-Steel | 2893 | 4.009% | 2300 | 3.996% | | 50 | Arceus-Grass | 1454 | 2.015% | 1186 | 2.061% | | 55 | Arceus-Electric | 1184 | 1.641% | 890 | 1.546% | Yeah yeah yeah I also want these Pokemon to have higher usage (Arceus Steel :( ) . However, we have to remember that there can be only one Arceus forme on a team due to species clause. Therefore, it's really obvious that there is naturally lower usage. However, there's one thing I don't understand | 25 | Latias | 5097 | 7.063% | 3941 | 6.848% | | 27 | Latios | 4204 | 5.826% | 3239 | 5.628% | Just......why? Lati@s are so great in the metagame, checking Kyogre like bosses, having those awesome CM sets, fantastic speed, as well as insane Special offenses. I mean, yeah, they're not perfect nor meta-defining but they deserve more than Top 30 :/ |
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Dec 1st, 2012, 6:48:30 PM
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| 79 | Charizard | 660 | 0.915% | 570 | 0.990% |
Good. However, I'm sure that we can do better than this. | 94 | Aron | 529 | 0.733% | 356 | 0.619% | This, on the other hand, I'm somewhat upset by. Namely because, while it's a good way to start a match 5-5 (or close to it) I've seen some people who stupidly have it set to level 100. Although it's funny using Trick on them then setting up while they Endeavor helplessly because they don't know how to switch. |
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Dec 1st, 2012, 6:49:40 PM
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Past the End
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| 96 | Ninetales | 496 | 0.687% | 433 | 0.752% |
| 109 | Arceus-Fire | 385 | 0.534% | 300 | 0.521% | Someone PLEASE HELP ME, i knew the ladder sucked at PS (i dont really play ubers there) but i didnt think we had come to this. | 79 | Charizard | 660 | 0.915% | 570 | 0.990% | I know i has been some months since the Smog 21 (the last that was actually good) but i still think people should at least have a little common sense, SOLAR POWER DOES NOT JUSTIFY THIS PIECE OF SHIT. | Abilties | | Blaze 71.515% | | Solar Power 28.485% | Thats it, sorry im going to comit suicide, dont wait for me.
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Dec 1st, 2012, 8:51:41 PM
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Hey look on the bright side, Charizard WAS used less in November than he was in October.
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Dec 2nd, 2012, 6:29:03 PM
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| 183 | Rattata | 121 | 0.168% | 101 | 0.175% |
This is not right. How is this thing #183. I bet someone must have used a team with Rattata 121 times which is weird.
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Dec 2nd, 2012, 8:30:40 PM
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Dec 4th, 2012, 7:06:55 AM
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| 94 | Aron | 529 | 0.733% | 356 | 0.619% |
So many people using the FEAR tactic :| |
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Dec 4th, 2012, 9:31:35 PM
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| 256 | Arceus-Psychic | 55 | 0.076% | 43 | 0.075% |
This proves it, Arc-Psychic is the most useless Uber, the ladder just confirms it!
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Dec 4th, 2012, 10:37:28 PM
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That aside, | 1 | Kyogre | 30207 | 41.861% | 25463 | 44.244% | | 2 | Arceus | 21728 | 30.111% | 16644 | 28.920% | Nothing surprising here. | 10 | Kyurem-White | 11975 | 16.595% | 8782 | 15.260% | One of the godliest Pokemon in Ubers is doing well. Quite good. | 16 | Excadrill | 9052 | 12.544% | 6892 | 11.975% | | 23 | Tyranitar | 6560 | 9.091% | 5999 | 10.424% | Looks as though Excadrill isn't as dependent on Tyranitar as it once was. | 24 | Genesect | 5147 | 7.133% | 4386 | 7.621% | Woah ... ... That's impressive, Genesect. It looks as though you fit right into the Ubers environment. Good job. | 25 | Latias | 5097 | 7.063% | 3941 | 6.848% | | 27 | Latios | 4204 | 5.826% | 3239 | 5.628% | But....these two need a lot more love in Ubers. They have incredible special stats and they also stand as the best Kyogre checks in the tier. They need at least Top 20 usage. | 49 | Dragonite | 1457 | 2.019% | 1185 | 2.059% | Someone please enlighten me on what is so redeeming about D-Nite in Ubers that it gets 2% usage in the tier. I don't see anything appealing about this thing and Hydreigon and Salamence are superior in every aspect. | 58 | Abomasnow | 1141 | 1.581% | 1019 | 1.771% | This is pretty mediocre, but it can support the Kyurems well, and they become a complete terror. Froslass also becomes annoying. I'm not surprised. | 71 | Gengar | 804 | 1.114% | 680 | 1.182% | Gengar is fucking terrible in Ubers, and it cannot even revenge Mewtwo, which is a shame. It should get less usage. | 79 | Charizard | 660 | 0.915% | 570 | 0.990% | This needs to stop being used. It is close to 1% usage, which it shouldn't be, and should be getting less than 1% usage. | 85 | Deoxys | 595 | 0.825% | 492 | 0.855% | This thing is pretty useless, which leads to me being surprised it gets above .5% usage. | 118 | Bisharp | 304 | 0.421% | 256 | 0.445% | This thing needs quite a lot more usage. It's really good guys. Sucker Sweeping is nothing to laugh at. Once it gets an SD boost, it's hard to stop. It's also helped by the fact that Fighting-types are almost nonexistant in Ubers. | 256 | Arceus-Psychic | 55 | 0.076% | 43 | 0.075% | This makes me laugh at how useless this piece of shit is in Ubers.
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Dec 5th, 2012, 3:34:18 AM
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Deoxys only gets use because of surprise. It can run a weaker version of either Deoxys-A or Deoxys-S's sets, so you can get a bit of a jump on your opponent. Not worth it IMO, but .8% doesn't surprise me at all.
D-Nite I assume is purely for Multiscale. Lefties+Substitute+Roost can make you essentially immortal, which is very useful for some teams who need bulk. |
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Dec 5th, 2012, 4:32:56 AM
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Charizard's usage in ubers will always be higher than it should because of randoms making "favorite mons from the anime" teams which often include Charizard and random uber legendaries, so they get defaulted to ubers.
Knowing this, can we please please stop complaining about Charizard every.single.month? Consider it free laddering points for us serious uber players. Quote:
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Dec 5th, 2012, 6:17:31 PM
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| 178 | Weavile | 9 | 0.183% | 6 | 0.154% |
Thats 100% on me, if you see my RMT. | 1 | Kyogre | 1969 | 40.102% | 1651 | 42.411% | | 2 | Arceus | 1577 | 32.118% | 1232 | 31.648% | | 3 | Mewtwo | 1236 | 25.173% | 914 | 23.479% | I see these on almost every team, no surprise.
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Dec 5th, 2012, 7:21:57 PM
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I find it saddening that Arceus-Fire has less usage than Charizard... and the people that are using charizard aren't even using it "properly"
also I used weavile in ubers for a couple battles rofl |
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Dec 5th, 2012, 8:49:45 PM
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As for the stats I'm surprised that the top ten is so static X_X. Seeing no changes but a switch from Ferro getting more usage then Forry (?_?) Giratina-a's growing dominance as a spin blocker is visible. Last month there was one spot difference between it and Ghost Arceus. | 14 | Giratina | 10689 | 12.979% | 8428 | 12.749% | | 15 | Arceus-Ghost | 10287 | 12.491% | 7989 | 12.085% | Now its: | 14 | Giratina | 9482 | 13.140% | 7392 | 12.844% | | 15 | Blaziken | 9175 | 12.715% | 7206 | 12.521% | | 16 | Excadrill | 9052 | 12.544% | 6892 | 11.975% | | 17 | Arceus-Ghost | 8991 | 12.460% | 6944 | 12.066% | Giratina-O also dropped in usage, from | 17 | Giratina-Origin | 9216 | 11.191% | 7364 | 11.140% | to | 22 | Giratina-Origin | 6768 | 9.379% | 5371 | 9.333% | Anyone know whats accounting for this? I mean Ghost Arceus in October was used barely less then Giratina. In September though, Ghost Arceus had more usage then Giratina.
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Dec 5th, 2012, 11:03:29 PM
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304: Mudkip. LOL. But seriously, why would you use NFEs other than Chansey?
75: Politoed. WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU USE POLITOED IN UBERS?! KYOGRE IS BETTER THAN IT IN EVERY SINGLE WAY! 155: Magikarp. Why? Just... Why? 140: Pikachu. Why?! At least Charizard has 100 base speed and Solar Power... |
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Dec 8th, 2012, 7:19:42 PM
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Um all this hate on Arceus Psychic and no one bothers to metion the fact that He checks the very pokemon that offensivley outclasses him ? Mewtwo is the 3rd most pokemon in Ubers, and he can't touch Arceus-Psychic without a sun-boosted Fire Blast, so you can use Him with Kyogre.
All these Charizards have to go, I wish we could "ban" Zard from Ubers just in an effort to stop non-competitive noobs from running rampant in the ladder and wasting everyone else's time.
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Dec 8th, 2012, 7:23:11 PM
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You haven't seen my post... There's worse things than Charizard in Ubers... |
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Dec 8th, 2012, 8:58:07 PM
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Dec 8th, 2012, 9:56:29 PM
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Dec 9th, 2012, 8:16:33 AM
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You could run into a team made of 6 perfectly viable uber mons, only to discover they're carrying moves such as Iron Tail and Hyper Beam. Those kind of teams definitely don't qualify as legitimate matches either. Noob players using their favorite mons are always going to show up often in ubers for the reason I mentioned in my previous post, there's really nothing we can do about it. |
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Dec 9th, 2012, 9:04:22 PM
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All in all, if you bother to use it correctly, Charizard can actually function in Ubers. |
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