The New Hero Is Born

Miles Tails · Jan 4, 2013

Introduction:

Hi guys, bringing another RMT, a few months ago I took a great liking for teams offensive doing much of them, this was one of the best and most of them like to use the idea of the team was able to defeat the most common type of teams currently Rain Dance, Pokemon Tornadus-T, Thundurus-T, Keldeo infests the metagame, but also wanted to deal with the other players styles as well, with these ideas in mind rode the team, which got 1504 points on the PO ladder, could have tried to get more, but I have no more patience to be playing in the ladder

Creation Process:

How was the idea of winning teams of rain, the first thing that came to mind was able to abuse this climate, so I chose that Kingdra with Swift Swin wreaks havoc.

Shortly thereafter I wanted someone to help the team causing residual damage in the opposing team, the best Pokemon for this role and Deoxys-D

I wanted a good revenger killer who could also abuse the rain opponent and work very well as a late game sweeper, Keldeo chosen for this role.

Needed a Spin Block I chose Gengar because the best spin block of HO teams for its great spd and spatk.

For the last two slots I wanted Pokémon that had Prioritys and they could wreak havoc on the opposing team, were chosen for this Scizor and Mamoswine, Scizor also contributes a lot like Dragon Resist and Mamoswine with immunity to Electric.

Individual analysis:

Deoxys (Deoxys-D) @ Rocky Helmet
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Stealth Rock
- Taunt
- Spikes
- Thunder Wave

Deoxys-D for their good defenses and considerable spd is a great user of hazards, always managing to throw stones when possible and two layers of Spikes, also distributes Thunder Wave which is a great help because he can leave as useless fast sweepers Salamence, Latios , Keldeo, Tornadus-T, Taunt makes it possible to avoid hazards that are thrown in my field, moreover makes Breloom becomes useless and I can make a switch safe without fear of someone putting it to sleep, raise a Swords Dance and take my whole team, Rocky Helmet makes him take damage Pokemon that make contact, an item of great help as it causes damage without touching, taking damage as boring Pokémon Terrakion, Tyranitar, Jirachi.

Kingdra (M) @ Life Orb
Trait: Swift Swim
EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Rain Dance
- Surf
- Draco Meteor
- Dragon Pulse

Kingdra is one of the dragons which I like best, she and a great help against rain teams, for its combination of types it can enter without any problem on things like Choice Specs Politoed and Keldeo, moreover because of its ability to fold your speed down rain it can be a great sweeper Mind Game, wreaking havoc during the match to end the Keldeo can clean the rest of the opposing team, rain Dance makes even when my opponent team does not use rain I can put the climate field besides taking contraries climates, is stab Surf, Draco Meteor and Dragon Pulse are also stabs, Draco Meteor by its great might and Dragon Pulse to be used at times when not worth taking the drop Spatk.

Scizor (F) @ Choice Band
Trait: Technician
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Bullet Punch
- Pursuit
- Superpower
- U-turn

Scizor works closely with Kingdra in Mind Game, with its combination of types has only weakness to Fire, also is the Dragon Resist helping the team much going into Draco Meteor from Latios Scarf and then giving or U-Turn Pursuit or killing him or making scounter and giving the momentum of the match for me, and priority Bullet Punch which is essential for the team because it means that I can give in Pokemon Revenger Kill weakened, Pursuit and more to catch things like Latios Choice, Superpower very used to predict the catch Steel as Heatran, Magnezone, and Ferrothorn in turn, U-Turn a stab very powerful and with the advantage of scountar thereby giving me momentum of the match.

Keldeo @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Justified
EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Hydro Pump
- Surf
- Secret Sword
- Hidden Power [Ice]

Keldeo is the revenger killer of team, often take the field after their counter have been defeated and then take the rest of the team opponent, Hydro Pump is a very powerful stab that despite the risk of failure is very worthwhile because it ensures the use OHKO in Surf things that do not kill, Surf is the second stab most used when'm sure I'll kill the opponent Pokemon and to avoid missing the Hydro Pump at a time that is unnecessary to use it and end up losing the Keldeo, Secret Sword is a scam exclusive Keldeo hitting defense great to deal with Chansey, Rotom-W because it will cause greater damage than their stab water, Hidden Power (Ice) closes the moveset to defeat dragons mainly Dragonite, I chose not because I think HP Ghost not worth it since it will not cause much damage to Jellicent, Latias and Latios opponent so take this blow can change.

Mamoswine (F) @ Life Orb
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Icicle Spear
- Ice Shard
- Earthquake
- Superpower

Mamoswine and simply amazing, your immunity to Electric makes I can avoid Thunder Wave paralyzes the addition of power going into things with Thundurus-T and Volt Switch / Thunder, and moreover it can simply monstrous harm in making it all easily cope with most teams, Icicle Spear and stab and I like it more hits by hits could go 1-5 with this I can kill Dragonite, Landorus-T, Gliscor, Ice Shard is the second priority of the team giving OHKO on Latios , Tornadus-T, Thundurus-T after Stealth Rock damage, and moreover a great help weaken those boring Venusaur causing many problems to the team, Superpower more used to hit Air Ballon Heatran and Rotom-W in grab predict, Earthquake is stab.

Gengar (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Shadow Ball
- Substitute
- Disable
- Focus Blast

Gengar is the spin block of team, he can do well against most spiners the game with the exception of Starmie, Shadow Ball is his stab at it with a Spatk of 359 makes Pokemon to take damage in neutral, Focus Blast this to hit Tyranitar and Steel in general, Substitute used in turns makes free he can protect himself and do anything without fear of taking damage, and Disable a great help especially against Choice Scarf Pokemon especially as Keldeo, Salamence, Latios who attack under the first and when the substitute Gengar can force an opponent exchange because they are stuck in the Struggle, and moreover a great help against Tentacruel.

Mr. Green · Jan 5, 2013

Hi, nice HO team!

For Deoxys-D would try to replace Thunder Wave with Magic Coat. This is because your team is composed of very fast Pokémon and the priority of Scizor and Mamoswine and paralysis is not to serve as so much to me, also why Terrakion Focus Sasher with Taunt can stop you Deoxys-D set preventing the Hazards that are very useful for your team. Magic Coat, rather than reflecting any change in status would be more useful. With Magic Coat Taunt more you can keep many bay wall annoying.
In addition, I suggest you try using Red Card> Rocky Helmet, this is because Deoxys-D should at least put the rocks over a row of Spikes also, to run the team well, and with the Red Card succeeds, it is also useful to refer back annoying Statupper dangerous of which can thins about Hazards in the presence of (at least the Stealth Rock).
I suggest Black Sludge > Leftovers on Gengar, although it is difficult to come if hit by a Trick, Black Sludge damages the opponent.

tl;dr

Magic Coat > Thunder Wave (for Deoxys-D)
Red Card > Rocky Helmet (for Deoxys-D)

Neliel · Jan 5, 2013

Hi,

Im a big fan of this type of team with "random" sweeper supported by deo-d, also called Hyper offensive teams, and i had a lot of experience with them. One of the first thing i learned about these teams, is that choiced pokemon just doesnt work that much. For example, having a scizor locked into bullet punch because you need to revenge kill a terrakion, can cause you some issues if you opponent has something to setup on it; same is for keldeo, locked into the wrong move against a dragon or something else can make you lose, in general i think that the most of the choiced pokemon in heavy offense team will ruin your momentum to sweep. What i think you can do is to simply change your scizor into a sword dance one with Sword dance / Bullet punch / Superpower / Quick attack with a life orb. This will let you have more offensive presence, and its true that you lose the pursuit to trap latios, (even though i think that locking yourself into pursuit is the worst idea ever in offensive teams) i have something else in mind to fix this problem, so dont worry. Quick attack is preferred here because you really soffer fire types pokemon such as Victini, Ninetales and so on, and in conjunction with stealth rock damage after a sword dance you will ko them.

Now i would switch the role of Gengar and keldeo for a couple of reason. First, scarf gengar actually has more speed being able to always outspeed others keldeo, terrakion and even tie with latios. Giving the choice scarf on gengar also helps a bit doing its main role, which is spin blocking, being able to outspeed and kill starmie. You can go with Shadow ball / Hidden power ice / Focus blast / Destiny bond. Shadowblast are here for perfect coverage, hidden power ice lets you beat Landorus sheer force as well as dragons, while destiny bond is perfect to revenge kill stuff in a pinch if, for example, your opponent can setup on your deo-d a dragon dance or a sub. Destiny bond is also the best move actually to get rid of spinners, since they are almost forced to attack you because if they switch out they probably wont have any other chance to spin, and destiny bond kill them no matter what.

Now since i changed your scarfer, i think you can aswell change your keldeo to a more offensive set which is the calm mind one. This will help a bit against rotom-w, which i see its quite difficult to take down, as well as being able to 6-0 rain stall teams. You can go with Calm mind / Surf / Secret sword / hidden power ice or ghost with a lum berry. This will let you have something else to combat rain teams and at the same time never lose momentum. The hidden power choice is yours i think, even though i think that hp ghost should be the first choice to baitkill Jellicent, which can also stop Scizor, if you feel the need to hit dragon types then go with hp ice. Just saying that you will never going to be fucked by adragon thanks to gengar/scizor/mamoswine.

Now i would say one least thing, which is the problem you have with sun teams. I know you can change the weather and qith quick attack scizor you can catch fire types, but the main way to combat sun teams for ho is being able to setup stealth rocks with deo-d and block your opponent spinner, since they probably have more than one stealth rock weak and in this way you can accumulate damages faster. But what happens if your opponent runs Xatu? You are probably never going to setup stealth rock and if you dont have chance to setup the rain with kindgra you are going to lose probably. So what about skill swap instead of thunder wave? i know it seems strange, but i can rest assure it works. I used it when the lavos spawn team was around and that move alone made sun users ragequit instantly. I know you probably wont do this change because sun with xatu are not even that common, but its better to prepared to everything. Thats it, i hope i helped, you can find a list of changes below:

-->Gengar (M) @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Destiny Bond
- Shadow Ball
- Focus Blast
- Hidden Power [Ice]

-->Scizor (F) @ Life Orb
Trait: Technician
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Bullet Punch
- Quick Attack
- Swords Dance
- Superpower

-->Keldeo @ Lum Berry
Trait: Justified
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Surf
- Secret Sword
- Hidden Power [Ghost]

Thunder wave--> Skill swap (optional)

Bryce · Jan 5, 2013

Hey there,I remember playing this team a few times both winning and losing against it(Kingdra just fucks up Rain HO).This deo-d team is really solid and matches up well against many of the weather teams dominating this meta.

CBScizor ,or most choice Band/Specs users doesn't quite belong in these kind of teams unless your running volt-turn by pairing it with Rotom-W.Not to mention it offers free set up to RP Genesect who is unbanned on PO.Also this team lacks any attack booster or set up sweeper which are needed to put on extra offensive pressure.So I recommend changing it to SDScizor as Neliel suggested previously.

I also support Neliel's suggestion of ScarfGenger.It makes a very good revenge killer and spin blocker and in general better than Keldeo on your team,since your not using Rain or using ScardKeldeo to check Rain.

But then I don't think CMKeldeo will be a good choice with so many Torn-T rain,extra presence of Lati twins(thanks to Breloom and ScarfKeldeo) and abundance of Amoongus and Celebi on the ladder.Many teams are now starting to use Toxicroak too.Which is why I suggest you use a SubSD Terrakion instead.It's ability to break defensive cores and act as an awesome sweeper will be an huge asset and almost a necessity to this team.It also forces out Ferrothorn who,if got killed would make Rain teams extremely weak to your kingdra.This lets you create free Subs most of the time and wreck havoc with Terrakion.

so the suggested changes are:

SubDisable Genger >Scarf Genger
CBScizor>SD Scizor
ScarfKeldeo>SubSD Terrakion(Rock Gem or Salac berry is up to you)

Leftiez · Jan 5, 2013

Hi there.
Is a very good Offensive Team, I really appreciate Kingdra, is a very good sweeper, with Rain Dance + Swift Swim + Stealth Rocks/Spikes may be unmanageable, but I see you own weaknesses, I explain you, against Starmie you have nothing to prevent it from using rapid spinn, because he outspeed Mamoswine and Kingdra(without RD) /Scizor also, I suggest you to put Scizor in Choice Scarf with this item Scizor outspeed Starmie/Latias/Latios. then I see you own Mamoswine but in your team it is useless as many pokemons can be set up on him and because it is counter by Rotom-W and Rotom-W is the counter of your team, you have nothing for tank his Attacks, I suggest you Garchomp Sub salac Berry on Mamoswine, Garchomp is a very good pokemon for your team, it can come more easily on Rotom-W and it can come more easily on the Sun Teams, then I suggest you swap Skill Swap with Thunder Wave on Deoxys-D.

Garchomp (F) @ Salac Berry
Trait: Rough Skin
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Substitute
- Swords Dance
- Outrage
- Earthquake

Scizor (F) @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Technician
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- U-turn
- Bullet Punch
- Superpower
- Pursuit/Night Slash

Tl;dr

Scizor--->Choice Scarf
Mamoswine--->Garchomp
Deoxys-D--->Thunder Wave

Hope I Helped and Good Luck with your team.

The New Hero Is Born

Miles Tails

Mr. Green

Neliel

Sacred Sword

Bryce

Lun

Leftiez