Shadow's Soul [Peaked @ 1903 on PS]

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  What does it do?
  Tyranitar does what it basically does in every sand team: sets up the rocks we all love, lures the likes of Skarmory, Ferrothorn and Forretress with Fire Blast and walls Latios to hell and back. Tyranitar also helps me in beating Volcarona, who otherwiser sweeps me straight up with only one Quiver Dance. Tyranitar also is a solid answer to basically any kind of Ninetales, and then pursuit it to death to weaken it and then damaging it with residual damage.
  
  Once Tyranitar has put the rocks up, it kind of serves as a status absorber. This is important, since Spore is a terrifying move in practice and my whole teams hates it but Starmie, so I usually take the Spore with Tyranitar.

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  Possible Changes?
  Yes, Choice Band. This set doesn't help me at all with CM Latias (The Monoatacker with Dragon Pulse alone isn't a problem with Lucario, but the ones with Hp Fire and Surf are a pain to face), but If I do this then I would have to change Landorus' set to a defensive one to have the rocks on my side.

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  What does it do?
  Easy: Sweep. Lucario's counters at +2 depends on the move set. With this moveset, it's walled hard by Dragonite and Gliscor. But who gives a shit about them. Lucario kills Gengar, Terrakion, Scizor, Heatran, Tyranitar, Reuniclus, Ferrothorn, JELLICENT and some random things with the proper move. It can switch in on Scizor with proper prediction, it can switch in easily on Ferrothorn. This is actually kind of important, since most Rain Teams I have faced were swept by this thing. Bullet Punch over ES for Terrakion and Gengar mainly, and it serves me as a STAB priority move. There are time when I just miss so much ES though. To put things straight, Lucario 2HKOs every pokemon in existence under UBER. It even 2HKOs some uber mons. That's fucking terrifying.

• Possible Changes?
  There are times where I just need ExtremeSpeed to pull out a sweep. Tornadus-T isn't KO'd by a +2 Bullet Punch, but now it's banned so it doesn't really care. Thundurus though resists Bullet Punch and sweeps me with the Agility set. With Extreme Speed though, I kill it easily.
  Basically, it goes like this: I replace ES with Crunch and Jellicent walls most of my team (though I can cripple it with trick from Telle), or I don't touch anything and try my best at getting Thundurus down.

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  What does it do?
  Revenge Kill stuff that neither Lucario or Gothitelle can kill, that's what it does. Outspeeds Thundurus and OHKOs it with Stone Edge. MIsses do suck though. This thing can switch into Terrakion with little fear unless Landorus hurt, the opposing Terrakion is band and goes for Stone Edge, which is unlikely. Landorus can revenge kill Jirachi, Gliscor, Toxicroak, Heatran and wreck Celebi with ease, mons that are threats depending on the moveset. Landorus does a pretty good job as a lead in front of Politoed/Ninetales, scouting the opponent's move or straight up kill Ninetales as quickly as possible. Actually, it does a pretty good job againts sun and rain in general, revenge killing most abusers in each weather.

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  Possible Changes?
  See Tyranitar's Possible Changes part.

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  What does it do?
  Wall 90% of the physicall atackers you could think of. Skarmory has been a complete stop to most physicall things since GSC, and it walls them cold. Dragonite, Haxorus, Salamence (Fuck Fire Blast), Weavile, Breloom, Sand Force Landorus, Landorus-T. They all are walled by Skarmory, unless the opponent gets really lucky and crits me with like, Dragonite's Fire Punch @ +1. Also, Skarmory beats Amoonguss who lack Hidden Power [Fire] quite easily, a really threatening mon well played (And even then, I think HP Fire doesn't even make 40% of damage, so I can stall it to death unless it crist me, something that wouldn't be rare).
  
  Skarmory puts up the spikes if my opponent is dumb and leaves something that gets walled by it in front of me, or either if I play mind games with Whirlwind. I love those kinds of games. Speaking of Whirlwind, phazes away set-up sweepers and fucks up Smeargle/Ninjask right up their ases.

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  Possible Changes?
  At the moment, I was tempting in changing Drill Peck for Stealth Rocks in case Tyranitar gets a Choice Band, but that would make me Taunt-bait. I think I'll do this if I make a BandTar though.

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  What does it do?
  Spin and counter Politoed, basically. Offensive Starmie in sand is kind of stupid and redundant so I wanted a bulky variant. Thunderbolt 2HKOs any Politoed and Scald does a pretty big chunk of damage to Thundurus-T switch in. If I predict correctly the Ferrothorn switch in, I go to Lucario and start to sweep. Starmie is also a great status absorber, with Natural Cure, it doesn't care about status.
  
  Starmie does a pretty good job to most spinblockers strangely enough. It beats Jellicent one-on-one unless it has the rare Shadow Ball. The only one that's troubling is Gengar but Gengar is revenge killed by Landorus and Lucario. Starmie kills most of the Hazards setters like Forretress, Skarmory and Hippowdon.

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  Possible Changes?
  I was thinking of Ice Beam -> Thunderbolt to make sure Landorus-T doesn't put the rocks up, but that was kind of dumb since Starmie primary job besides spinning is to counter most variants of Politoed, so Thunderbolt stays in.

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  What does it do?
  Gotithelle's trapping abilities work just amazing with this team, killing basically killing every Landorus-T and Lucario counters in existance. It Kills Amoonguss, Hippowdon, Quagsire, Gliscor (unless Gothitelle is hurt, which isn't likely since you shouldn't play Gotithelle againts anything but something you want to make sure to eliminate), cripples Jellicent, Chansey, Blissey, Ferrothorn and Gastrodon. Gotithelle kills defensive variants of Politoed one-on-one, this is also important to notice.
  
  Unfortunately Gotithelle only gets a kill before it gets pursuited from Tyranitar or Scizor, but that means she has done her job and then switch in into Lucario. Switching Lucario in choice locked Scizor is also very important, since most of the time I just sweep teams with that tactic.

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  Possible Changes?
  Nothing, really. Gothitelle is just fine as it is right now.

IMPORTABLE:

Hi, there

Very solid team, there are very few changes that I would propose to Gothitelle, put Psychock> Psychic otherwise you can not trap Blissey, Chansey and kill them, while hitting Psychock physical defense you can. I also suggest Hidden Power Fire> Hidden Power Ice, otherwise you can not trap and kill Ferrothorn and Scizor, as the fourth move suggest Grass Knot, you need to hit Hippowdon essentially that with the support of Stealth Rock is knocked.

At this point, since Gothitelle Jellicent frees you from the field, I propose to put Extremespeed> Crunch on Lucario, so after a Swords Dance can kill Thundurus-T and Keldeo, and although it is rare to find-Scarf Rotom-W, or otherwise Rotom-W with a speed higher than that of Adamant Lucario, Extremespeed is also better because Gothitelle Jellicent can trap and kill while Thundurus-T, Keldeo and Rotom-W Scarf, can not trap them and kill them because faster.

Last thing, I would suggest you try Psychock> Thunderbolt on Starmie, so no risk of hitting Thundurus-T with Thunderbolt, and Psychock hit Tentacruel more effectively, but also hit Venusaur out of the sun, and passing in speed Gengar, even kill him, Thunderbolt gains that we can hit better Politoed, but against him I think that you can rely on Gothitelle and Pursuit Tyranitar. That is all.
Good luck, with your team!

tl;dr

Hey there,

I have a few moveslot issues I like to address. I believe that Tyranitar should be running crunch so that you have the option to crunch against opposing Celebi, Latias, Latios and sub/disable gengar that don't want to switch out and won't be KO'd by a pursuit. Additionally, relying on stone edge to hit Politoeds and other waters could definitely cost you the weather advantage and maybe the game as a result. Replacing Stealth rock with crunch and giving Skarmory Stealth Rock over Spikes would probably help your team achieve a win condition faster and more efficiently. You also take pressure off Tyranitar by giving it another attack over Stealth rock. You won't need to set up rocks and take a hit to set them up

You have no ghost type and Spikes support helps just Landorus-T and Lucario. it takes multiple turns to set up spikes and Skarmory will have to take repeated hits so you may not even get an opportunity to set them up. It's far more important to reliably set up stealth rock and have your Tyranitar at a healthier amount of hp than attempt to set up spikes and have both Tyranitar and skarmory weakened.

Additionally, like Mr. Green said Psyshock on Starmie and Espeed on Luke are superior options. Psyshock not only ohko's gengar with little investment, but it gives you a great answer to keldeo (especially subcm variants). I'm really surprised you even chose BP over Extremespeed (no offense). Extreme speed hits harder 90% of the time, and has + 2 priority as opposed to + 1 to outspeed dragonite's espeed and dnite's espeed.

Lastly, I would change Drill Peck to Brave Bird. Skarmory doesn't have the greatest attack and Brave Bird's power really does make up for its lackluster attack stat. The recoil shouldn't be too bad as you do have roost and max hp.

hope I helped and good luck with the team!

Hey Zentrius!

Cool team, balanced offense seems to have a lot of variability. I'd like to bespeak a few problems, though.

First of all, nearly every single one of Chimpact's suggestions are perfect: Psyshock over Thunderbolt on Starmie, ExtremeSpeed over Bullet Punch on Lucario, Brave Bird over Drill Peck on Skarmory, and Crunch on TTar; all for the reasons listed above. I do like seeing Spikes on Skarmory, though. They transform 2HKOs into OHKOs from many of your Pokemon. Keldeo, for example, is OHKO'd by a +2 Espeed from Lucario after SR + 1 layer of Spikes. Plus, the combination of Gothitelle + TTar pretty much deals with every Spinner in the game. Tentacruel and Forretress are trapped by Gothitelle while Starmie is trapped by TTar. You're missing a move on Gothitelle by the way lol. I assume it's Trick.

However, a major problem I see is Agility Modest LO Thundurus-T. It has the ability to flat out 6-0 you after an Agility, which it can grab against Skarmory and Gothitelle locked into Tbolt. Since everything is OHKO'd after Stealth Rock, the only thing you can really do is try to Life Orb + sandstorm stall with smart switching until Lucario's Bullet Punch knocks it out. This is another reason to go with ExtremeSpeed on Lucario. It does enough to the point where smart switching to stall it out isn't a horrible idea. Another simple but effective way to play around it is to use a Chople Berry on TTar. It can take a Modest LO Focus Blast and do enough back with the combination of TTar's Crunch and ExtremeSpeed from Lucario. This is to say you're using Chimpact's suggestion of Crunch over Stone Edge--plus, Stone Edge will eventually miss in a crucial moment such as that anyway. Then, I recommend changing your set to a more defensive one in order to take other moves and better trap Lati@s. Since Specs Latios has the potential to 2HKO your current set with Surf, TTar isn't really doing one of its most important jobs. An EV spread of 252 HP / 60 Def / 196 SDef optimizes the use of Chople Berry by living pretty much every Focus Blast in the game. It can even survive an unboosed Terrakion's Close Combat. Without Superpower, that may not seem like a big deal, but it can allow you to get up SR early in the game if you desperately need it--if they have a Thundurus-T, for example.

Next, I'd like to suggest an EV change on Gothitelle. 252 Spe doesn't give it any advantages over anything important. I'd like to suggest a Timid nature to outspeed Adamant Breloom and trap-kill it, but you have plenty of checks anyway. So, you might as well go with a bulkier specs set that has 88 HP / 252 SAtk / 168 Spe (Modest). This allows you to outspeed any Toxicroak speed creepers, like Rotom-W, while increasing the bulk quite a bit. It even dramatically increases your chances of living a Keldeo's Hydro Pump in Rain:

252 SpA Keldeo Hydro Pump vs. 88 HP / 0 SpD Gothitelle in rain: (89.43 - 105.28%) -- 37.5% chance to OHKO

252 SpA Keldeo Hydro Pump vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Alakazam in rain: (96.44 - 113.52%) -- 75% chance to OHKO

Other than that, the team looks really solid! Well done! Good luck in your future endeavors!~

Hey guy, really cool team, i love Gothitelle with the new trait released, it make more interesting the Weather War and the metagame in general. The team has anyway some trouble, especially with the most common Special Sweepers of the metagame, so lemme give you my advices.

First off, I can see a lot of weakness to fast Special pokemon, such as Choice Specs Latios, Reuniclus under Trick Room and the Speed Boost abuser, first of all RPLandorus or agilityer Thundurus-T especially when them run Modest Nature. Them have not much more problem to give you 6-0, that s because your main special sponge, Tyranitar, has not conditions to do his work as him know. The problem is main weakness to Special, anyway i will give you some advice to fix few sets.

• As I told you, your Tyranitar s set is not much effective to check or counter most of your threat, your Evs spread, the Atk evs, are pretty useless, because you lost easily 1vs1 against the Psychic pokemon with Psichic+Fight combo that him usually counter . My suggestion is to give him Chople Berry instead of Leftovers, in this way you can win 1vs1 against Reuniclus, LOAlakazam or Gengar too, but you need to run Crunch, so the moveset i suggest you is Crunch/Pursuit/Stealth Rock/Ice Beam. This one help you for above reasons with Crunch, Ice Beam help you to hit hard and don t give setup field to RPLandorus or Agility Thundurus-t (Stone edge could miss on the second, and don t guarantee anyway the OHKO on the first). The Evs spread i suggest is 252HP/64Satk/192Sdef Sassy Nature, 64 in Satk allow you to HOKO with Ice Beam an eventual Gliscor that coul setupp on and have a bit more offense in Satk to hit above threats, the rest on Special Defense to resist better against an eventual Specs Latios or Life Orb Starmie and lock them with Pursuit.
  
  
  
• Well now your main trouble is resolved, but you have something that could be fixed for example Skarmory set, you shpuld run Brave Bird>Drill Peck, and maybe use Shed Shell Skarmory. With the probabily ban of Tornadus-T, Magnezone will have a bit more usage, especially Scarf Set, and you have a great way to gain momentum thanks to Shed Shell+ Landorus immunity to Electrick type moves. Brave Bird is prefered to Drill Pack because despite has recoil damage, it hit hard more things, such as Breloom, Virizion or Keldeo that now is everywhere but even Terrakion after Some cc his a good way to win 1vs1. You have to give you 12Evs more in speed, this to outspeed eventual opponent skarm, set before and shuffle the opponent team before of your enemy.
  
  
  
• You have to give Extreme Speed instead of Bullet Punch on Lucario, the reason is pretty simple, with it you can hit better more things, and HOKO after rocks Thundurus-T, have the 56% to Ohko Dragonite and gain much more kills. If you want to run Bullet Punch, you can use it instead of Crunch, but it s your choice, it help you to hit Terrakion and Gengar and hoko them after a dance, against Jellicent you have Gothitelle, that with Thunderbolt 2HOKO with SR on the field an eventual Max Special Defense.
  
  252SpAtk Choice Specs Gothitelle (+SAtk) Thunderbolt vs 252HP/252SpDef Leftovers Water Absorb Jellicent (+SpDef): 47% - 55% (192 - 226 HP). Guaranteed 3HKO. 9% chance to 2HKO with Leftovers.
  
  
  
  
• Last thing, you need to give a move on Gothitelle lol, you could give Trick or Grass Knot, the first allow you to have an evenual Setupp field for Lucario, that is a great thing, and the second allow you to Hit Opponents Tyranitar/Hippodown or gastrodon, you have only the embarass of the choice.
  
  252SpAtk Choice Specs Gothitelle (+SAtk) Grass Knot vs 252HP/252SpDef Leftovers Hippowdon (+SpDef): 72% - 86% (306 - 362 HP). Guaranteed 2HKO.
  
  252SpAtk Choice Specs Gothitelle (+SAtk) Grass Knot vs 252HP/0SpDef Leftovers Hippowdon (Neutral): 108% - 127% (454 - 536 HP). Guaranteed OHKO.
  
  252SpAtk Choice Specs Gothitelle (+SAtk) Grass Knot vs 252HP/252SpDef Leftovers Tyranitar (+SpDef): 61% - 72% (248 - 294 HP). Guaranteed 2HKO.
  
  252SpAtk Choice Specs Gothitelle (+SAtk) Grass Knot vs 252HP/252SpDef Leftovers Storm Drain Gastrodon (+SpDef): 66% - 78% (284 - 336 HP). Guaranteed 2HKO.
  

Hope i helped you, good luck with the team

Tl;dr

Hello there,

This team is an excellent example as to how to effectively utilize Specs Gothitelle. Lucario is one of the best Gothitelle partners there is, as she can help eliminate his checks and counters such as Gliscor, Landorus (either form), and Skarmory.

My first suggestion is to use Trick as your fourth move on Gothitelle. Goth can manage against offensive teams with the coverage you have on that set, but Trick really comes in hand when you have a wall trapped that you cannot break through, such as Celebi or Jirachi. It's also useful as a last ditch effort to let Lucario set up an SD and possibly sweep.

Another major change is to use Choice Scarf Landorus over Landorus-T. With sand coming from Tyranitar and a higher special attack stat, Landorus hits harder than its Therian form with every move except U-turn. The power boost, however, is only a minor part of the change. The main flaw that Landorus-T has as a scarfer when compared to Landorus is its speed. 91 Speed is just not optimal in this metagame. While Landorus is not the absolute fastest scarfer in the metagame, it retains the Therian forms STAB Earthquake and access to U-turn, as well as gaining the ability to revenge things like +1 Volcarona or Scarf MoxieMence, while only really losing the benefits given by Intimidate.

Lastly, as stated by previous raters, ExtremeSpeed is probably better on your Lucario. The only things you will lose to with this switch are Jellicent and Terrakion, both of which are taken care of by teammates. Meanwhile, you can OHKO many threatening pokemon such as Thundurus-T and Starmie at +2, which Bullet Punch couldn't do.

Anyways, good luck with your team!

seems like you'd struggle against any form of rain offense. nothing on your team can switch into specs politoed since starmie will lose if it comes in once, and though goth can trap it (and die in the process), teams don't even need rain up for the likes of keldeo to really hurt you

you could try out gastrodon over landorus-t. gastrodon patches up a ton of your problems: you get a poli/starmie/keldeo counter, a check on thundurus, and an excellent means of beating rotom-w who seems to give your team the shits. if you don't like playing without a scarf then you can scarf ttar and give skarm SR, but your team would work fine without a dedicated revenge killer