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Old Mar 21st, 2010, 9:48:06 PM   #1
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This thread will be used to keep track of who is working on what articles, allow users to suggest new articles or partial revamps of existing ones, and let writers claim articles.

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SCMS Guide - ete

4th Gen
Legal IV/Nature combos for HP - Rising Dusk (previously ete) with help from various contributors
Moveset Legality Guide - RBG
EV Distribution Guide - umbrasc
Event Moves - Toothache
1 v 1 - Badal
TR Guide - Zy
Sunny Day Revamp (on site version) - Draco Zephyr
Universal Stall Guide - vashta
Baton Pass Guide - komodo
Trapping Guide - Erodent (needs a fairly established writer to take over and finish it since he has left)


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LC Guide - macle
LC EV spread guide - ete
LC Legality Guide - Swinub Toupee (needs reassigning)

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Speed tiers - alan

GSC

Status - havoc

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If you have a suggestion for a guide you would like to see that does not exist, or notice an on site guide that needs a major revamp, post it here with a brief explanation of why you think it would be helpful. If you would like to work on an article post here. Input on other people's suggestions is also encouraged.
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Old Mar 21st, 2010, 11:03:49 PM   #2
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I'd like to help work on anything LC article related
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Old Mar 22nd, 2010, 9:13:44 AM   #3
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I know macle was planing to update the main LC guide with my guidance, that's probably what you're looking to help with (legality and EVs are technical/maths, not competitive). And it kinda needs doing, with the threat list a lot is not so needed and there have abeen a lot of changes since it was written (most notably Missy's ban). Talk to him and see about getting access to the google doc he is using to set the article up before posting (group effort>one person applying all changes). Was not added to the index since I'm not sure what state it's in currently, whether he still intends to do it.
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Old Jun 12th, 2010, 3:56:41 PM   #4
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Alrighty, so my friends and I decided that we'd wanted to venture into the competitive scenes that are the first and second generations of Pokemon. So we decided to take a look at what Smogon has to offer.

Your articles are fairly lacking. In particular, the absence of useful articles and the poor tradebacks guide. The tradebacks guide in particular needs a major revamp, as although it lists many of the moves, it does not list how the Pokémon learn these moves; in the case of Hypno, it only says that it does not learn Amnesia through breeding. The article also does not seem very well organized, and I very much would like to rewrite the article to be cleaner and easier to use for those who wish to use actual cartridges for whatever reason.

This would also fit partly with the site project working on the in-game expansion. It just occurred to me to check there whether they have anything regarding this.
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Old Jun 12th, 2010, 6:03:52 PM   #5
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It is true that we don't have many past first/second gen articles on site currently and the ones we have are fairly old, so generally not held to the same standards we now expect. The main problem is that there seem to be very few past gen battlers willing to go and write large guides. If those generations become somewhat popular again, hopefully some of the players will become interested in writing and we can improve our material. Until then, you are welcome to ask for specific points to be added to the current guides using the small changes threads, or put ideas for specific new guides in this thread, or even help write them yourself. We are aware that past generation articles are in need of serious improvement.

Edit: I'll ask chaos whether he still has the past gen articles from old smogon, there is an old hidden forum where they were being worked on but there may be more around..
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Old Jun 27th, 2010, 2:02:38 AM   #6
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I'd like to reserve the Sunny Day analysis. Looking at the one currently on-site, it needs a complete overhaul and needs to be more relevant to today's metagame(s). With UU finally stabilizing, I think now's a good time to do it, especially because Sun is much more viable in UU.
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Old Jun 27th, 2010, 8:33:08 AM   #7
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Alright, added claim. Post when you've got something.

Here is the current version with formatting. If you don't want to worry about HTML, that's fine. Someone else can do it for you.
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Old Jun 29th, 2010, 5:01:17 PM   #8
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asked about this a while ago but knew i'd be inactive so i didn't formally reserve it.

http://www.smogon.com/articles/risk_reward

i'd like to touch this up
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Old Jun 29th, 2010, 7:19:24 PM   #9
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The Arceus section of the Ubers guide urgently needs an update. It should explain that Arceus is not permitted due to technical limitations of the most popular sim, and give a relatively brief overview of its ability and effects on the WiFi/other sims Uber metagame.

Post here if you want to write this up (ideally soon), and post the section in this forum for comment.
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Old Aug 13th, 2010, 9:13:29 AM   #10
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The Arceus section of the Ubers guide urgently needs an update. It should explain that Arceus is not permitted due to technical limitations of the most popular sim, and give a relatively brief overview of its ability and effects on the WiFi/other sims Uber metagame.

Post here if you want to write this up (ideally soon), and post the section in this forum for comment.
I didn't notice this, but I am doing a full revamp of the Ubers guide (its already pretty much done), and its being split into 3 parts:

1. Basic
2. Advanced
3. Arceus

And Theorymon is working on the Arceus stuff, and should be done soon.

edit: It's done and in the process of being grammar checked.
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Old Sep 11th, 2010, 9:19:28 PM   #11
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what about a MC analysis
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Old Sep 11th, 2010, 10:32:25 PM   #12
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If you mean Middle Cup, I don't see a reason why it should not go on site (there was a LC guide long before LC was an active metagame) but it is not a major priority. If someone in the MC community wants to write one up go ahead.
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Old Sep 18th, 2010, 3:50:40 PM   #13
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If it is allowed, I would like to claim the first 5th gen article, Differences from 4th Gen. I will be working on it for the next few months. It will focus primarily on items, abilities, mechanics, and attacks which changed from 4th gen.
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Old Oct 31st, 2010, 11:52:03 AM   #14
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Old Oct 31st, 2010, 1:19:36 PM   #15
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If possible, I'd like to get some work done on making the LC article 5th gen inclusive. Should we wait for tiering to be properly completed though?
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Old Oct 31st, 2010, 1:21:15 PM   #16
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Yes Venser. Wait until its nearly complete.
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Old Oct 31st, 2010, 1:44:19 PM   #17
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For gen 5 articles, can we claim now? Or do we wait? Since I want to write the gen 5 1v1 guide, but don't know whether I should start working on it now, or how it goes?
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Old Oct 31st, 2010, 1:50:04 PM   #18
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You can claim them now.
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Old Oct 31st, 2010, 1:58:49 PM   #19
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The 5th generation Uber guide will be a collaboration from the community. I (or somebody else...) will post the OP after we decide on a direction for it. This is pretty much a "don't go and post it".
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Old Oct 31st, 2010, 2:05:25 PM   #20
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Claiming 1v1 guide for gen 5
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You should update the OP and change the: 1v1 Guide- Badal and add the link
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Old Nov 15th, 2010, 4:03:32 PM   #21
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I'd like to do a DPP Rain Dance guide for Little Cup. It'd go under the rain offense guide because, well, it's offensive rain. Rain Dance, though underrated in LC (with all those Snover running rampant), is still very powerful, and should be noted.
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Old Jan 1st, 2011, 11:22:29 AM   #22
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Hey the Baton Pass guide on site still mentions Umbreon and Honchkrow as UU, does this require a full thread to update it? Might as well sort the whole thing. If that's the case, put me down for that.

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I've offered to take the TR Revamp off TAY's hands, and while I haven't been working on it much, there has been progress of some sorts. However, I asked him on IRC a few days ago and his answer was "lol I forgot that existed," which I assume means he's not doing it anymore.
bmb's Common Battle Conditions thing is also in the final stages of HTML so that can be removed, since it's going up on-site fairly soon (I should hope).
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I've offered to take the TR Revamp off TAY's hands, and while I haven't been working on it much, there has been progress of some sorts. However, I asked him on IRC a few days ago and his answer was "lol I forgot that existed," which I assume means he's not doing it anymore.
bmb's Common Battle Conditions thing is also in the final stages of HTML so that can be removed, since it's going up on-site fairly soon (I should hope).
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Since for some reason RBY OU lacks a guide on-site(though RBY UU has one), I'm volunteering to write a guide to RBY battling.
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