Scizor (Anti-Lead

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http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/scizor
[SET]

name:Anti Lead
move 1:Bullet Punch
move 2:U-turn
move 3:Superpower/Aerial Ace
move 4:Superpower/Aerial Ace/Protect
item:Focus Sash
ability:Technician
nature:Adamant
evs:252/252/0/0/0/4
ivs:31/31/31/31/31/31

[SET COMMENTS]
<P>This Scizor set is used to counter the most common leads in the metagame
Bullet Punch deals with frailer leads such as azelf and aerodactyl 2HKOing both of them U-turn is used on bulky leads such as swampert hippowdon jirachi and metagross whom it cant beat while doing atleast 30% damage
while Superpower Does 84%-100% damage to standard lead heatran and
91%-100% damage to magnezone both of which could be KOed by bullet punch
Aerial ace is for Infernape who gets 2HKOed by Aerial ace+Bullet punch
and lastly protect is for scouting trick leads and fake out leads like ambipom infernape and weavile<P>


[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<P>The evs listed above is for maximum bulk and attack power although
an ev spread of 36/252/0/0/0/220 is also viable if outspeeding non scarf magnezone is a concern<P>

<P>Hippowdon, Tyranitar and Abomasnow are good partners for this set as the weather effects they bring KO Faster Focus sash leads with a priority move that would 2HKO scizor.
Slowbro is also a good partner for scizor as it counters bulky salamence and gyarados switch ins whom scizor cant touch and also counter Leadchamp that this scizor has problems with<P>
 
periods: Not just an annoyance to females aged 11-55 any more!

I'm sorry but this is just poor on several levels, logically and grammatically. Why would you bother throwing down a focus sash on this if you have 252 HP IVs? You went to the trouble to try to get who vs whom right, but then can't be bothered to put a fucking apostrophe into the word 'can't' or a parenthesis at the end of the topic here. As much as I hate you for our past disagreements in Cong, Heysup, 'thank Arceus' for you existing on this forum as some sort of a quality control agent because I actually look forward to what you might have to suggest for this site suggestion.
 
Kitten Bukkake said:
periods: Not just an annoyance to females aged 11-55 any more!

I'm sorry but this is just poor on several levels, logically and grammatically. Why would you bother throwing down a focus sash on this if you have 252 HP IVs? You went to the trouble to try to get who vs whom right, but then can't be bothered to put a fucking apostrophe into the word 'can't' or a parenthesis at the end of the topic here. As much as I hate you for our past disagreements in Cong, Heysup, 'thank Arceus' for you existing on this forum as some sort of a quality control agent because I actually look forward to what you might have to suggest for this site suggestion.
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1. focus sash is for infernape and heatran who would 1HKO it with fire blast and the HP EVS are for everything else
2."Past disagreements"? ive never even met you before
3.the parenthesis thing is a typo
4.im just too lazy to put '
 
1. I never even looked or cared.
2. Really? Heysup is a different user, a mod infact, who I was teasing. Pretty obvious it's not you, given how I constructed the sentence (see: not being run-on).
3. nice way to make an impression, though.
4. It's like fanning on a shot.
 
Kitten Bukkake said:
1. I never even looked or cared.
2. Really? Heysup is a different user, a mod infact, who I was teasing. Pretty obvious it's not you, given how I constructed the sentence (see: not being run-on).
3. nice way to make an impression, though.
4. It's like fanning on a shot.
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1.k
2.thought you mistook me for someone else
3.i know right
4.cant think of anything
 
"what kitten said but nicer"

you don't "beat" an opposing lead if you trade your own pokemon for the win, also infernape will just fake you out

It's pretty terribly written as well. No real merit at all.
 
This set isn't properly formatted, so it should be locked and deleted anyways. However, for the sake of discussing this set so it isn't brought up again in the future, I will weigh in anyways. I have tried this set out in the past, and it was not very good at all. Often times you're left at 1HP while your opponent has set up SR - I don't consider that a win at all. You also don't even beat Heatran very often, because the Atk drop you get from Superpower really lessens the likelihood of Bullet Punch finishing it off, unless you roll near max damage both times. This set gets a no from me.
 
Infernape outspeeds you, breaks your sash with Fake Out, and OHKOs with Fire Blast. The best you can do against Nape is break his sash with Bullet Punch after Scizor is flinched and lose your Scizor.
Azelf and Aerodactyl are suicide leads who don't mind dying to set-up Rocks, anyway (which this set in no way stops).
Jirachi and Metagross are leads you know this set can't beat.
Against Roserade and Smeargle, you break their sashes only for them to put Scizor to sleep and get get up a free layer of Spikes or Toxic Spikes, anyway.
Hippowdon, Swampert, and Bronzong completely wall you and get up free Rocks as you U-Turn out.
176 HP/ 0 Def Jolly Ninjask takes 65.8% - 77.5% from a Technician252 Atk Adamant Scizor Bullet Punch, which will usually allow it to get up a sub, then Baton Pass its Speed Boosts out anyway. Smart players would just Baton Pass out to something to threaten your Scizor, anyway.
All in all, the most worthwhile thing you can do with this set is add a Lum Berry to your Scizor to beat Roserade and Smeargle, but Lead Scizor seems like a lost cause to me.
Sorry.
 
Theorymon said:
please remember to post peer edits in the QC forum first. Moved.
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sorry about that

Chris is me said:
also infernape will just fake you out
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Protect deals with fake out infernape

and i have been testing this lead for like 2 weeks now and so far i havent run into any major problems


EDIT:those other posts shut me up for good
guess the only reason i win with this lead is cause the people i play dont really know what theyre doing
 
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